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Ok Pounds to Lose, Need a Diet, Diabeitic Friendly Meal Replacer...Obamacare Employer Requiring Loss
6/27/13 | Chickensoup

Posted on 06/27/2013 6:17:28 PM PDT by Chickensoup

OK, I put on some kid and stess pounds and need to lose it. The Slimfast diet always worked for me but now I am prediabetic and trying to lose metabolic syndrome weight.

I need a meal replacer, preferable a powder that works like Slimfast with much less carbs.

The ideal? Powder that blends with milk, low carb, medium protein and medium fat.

Anyone?


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To: Chickensoup

I love to cook and bake so I guess it’s different for everyone. Eating real food allows me to do the things I love plus eat! I’m concerned that the shakes and salad are not going to be satisfying for you and you will fall off of the wagon. I’ve been there with the calorie counting, point counting, carb counting, calories burned counting, rabit food eating regime where I would be constantly hungry and constantly tempted. Reprogram yourself by eating real food. After two days you’ll have lost your cravings for sugar and you’ll feel great. Plus you can eat all day long! How awesome is that?


51 posted on 06/27/2013 6:59:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: heartwood

I am doing exactly that- I eat mostly soups and stews and occasionally steak dinners and feel great and lost a ton (down to 210 from 260 - and 210 is my ideal weight at 6’5)


52 posted on 06/27/2013 7:00:53 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Chickensoup

I recommend a low glycemic index diet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-glycemic_diet). It was originally recommended for diabetics, but it also works well for non-diabetics like myself.


53 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:16 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Chickensoup
“Glucerna” is a drink made for diabetes. Put Glucerna in search on Amazon and read about all the different types they have. I think this is what you are looking for. You could substitute these for a meal or meals.
54 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Chickensoup

Agree with Onyx. But I get Secure directly from the manufacturer...Procapslabs dot com. Soy or whey protein available. Lots of flavors.


55 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:30 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: Chickensoup

M4L


56 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:41 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Chickensoup

Paleo and T-Tapp. You’ll be svelt in 3 months.


57 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:59 PM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: Chickensoup
Myolean: http://www.supplementgiant.com/Myo-Lean-Evolution-p/m-mle.htm

I use for bodybuilding and like it. It is the only product that doesn't wreck my G.I. system and tastes great.

58 posted on 06/27/2013 7:02:24 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Chickensoup

What I do for a diet when needed (every few years) is as follows (and it works well for me):

- High protein body-building mix blended with skim milk.

- Low (as in infinitesimal) carb, high protein diet — lots of greens, proteins, and don’t worry about the fat content (don’t get stupid on it).

- Lots and lots of water every day. (a gallon or more)

- Weigh (and record) every day at the same time on the same scale wearing skivvies (so that there isn’t a change in “tare weight”)

- When I plateau (generally after about two weeks), drop the shakes and add a very moderate amount of carbs for a week or so...

- Then go back on it hot and heavy until I plateau again

- And so on until I am about 5 pounds away from my target

- At that point, start easing in a moderate amount of carbs and working over to maintenance status.

- Oh, yeah, and also do 30 minutes or so of cardio training a day.

- Also, with that, you can drink a moderate quantity of red wine, vodka, gin, or whiskey. Stay away from white wine, beer (I know...), rum, and liquers.

It’s similar to an “Atkins” style diet but without all the high priced “Atkins” food and paraphanalia.

Back in the 60s, that used to be called the “drinking man’s diet.” And it works...well.

The one caution: if you do it, drink a ton of water every day to keep the kidneys flushed out.

There’s not a lot of sugars in the diet, so I’m thinking (not 100% sure, of course, as I’m not a doctor) that it should be OK for a pre-diabetic.


59 posted on 06/27/2013 7:02:35 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Chickensoup
You've got a real problem.
Carbohydrates are your killer, now.
Check out the old Dr. Adkins Diet, oif you can find it.
It was also known at the Air Force Diet out of the 70s and 80s.
Click on the books below.
Look, it's extremely important you DON'T become diabetic.
I am Diabetic Type II myself.
If you go on this diet, you MUST take your vitamins, everyday.
This diet works, but you can not break it in any way, or you have to start over again, and it takes a minimum of 48 hours to make your body go back into breaking down your own bodyfat.
60 posted on 06/27/2013 7:03:15 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Chickensoup

diabetes = diabetics. I plan to get some Glucerna for myself.


61 posted on 06/27/2013 7:06:34 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Chickensoup

If the point is to stop the prediabetic stuff (which IMO is bs - you’re diabetic or you’re not, the “prediabetic” crap is how they try to get you hooked on the meds), then the best thing is exercise.

But not wear-yourself-out exercise. What you want is prolonged exercise, something you could do for an hour every other day. Walking is the best thing to do but, during the hot summer, an even better method is to get into a pool and walk back and forth along the bottom of the pool while swinging your arms just under the water. It burns calories and the displaced waters reduces stress from the weight. That’s particularly good exercise for those who are woefully out of shape.


62 posted on 06/27/2013 7:07:10 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Yosemitest

See post #59...you don’t need any $50 books.

BTW, in the 60s, it was called “the drinking man’s diet.”


63 posted on 06/27/2013 7:08:39 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Mastador1

My husband says that methheads are on the Jenny Crank diet.


64 posted on 06/27/2013 7:08:50 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Chickensoup
Hubby and I both have had great results with this:

Pricey, but delicious and all kinds of nutritional goodness packed into one serving. We blend it with almond milk and frozen fruit. Yum ;)

65 posted on 06/27/2013 7:10:07 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Marcella

Thank you


66 posted on 06/27/2013 7:10:21 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

use sea salt.....give up the bread and pasta...and walk..WALK..
Find a suitable track, do a mile in the morning and one in the afternoon. On rainy days go to the mall. Get yourself a small radio with earplugs to pass the time. I used to listen to Rush during my afternoon walks.
Chicken,tuna,other fish (broiled),fruits (apples are excellent)
Do it and you’ll lost the weight and your “numbers” will get much better within a month....


67 posted on 06/27/2013 7:11:05 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Mr. K; Chickensoup

Gluten and dairyfree. Meat is fine. Dairy is for baby cows.

I am a big believer in fruit/veggie smoothie meal replacers to help drop the first pounds, too. Add lot of spinach.


68 posted on 06/27/2013 7:11:31 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Scrambler Bob

electronics?


69 posted on 06/27/2013 7:11:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

I was curt in my last entry, but do take a nice open minded look at T-Tapp. It’s a wonderful exercise regimin. 15 mins a day to lose inches like crazy and work up to the 55 min for even more amazing results. In the end you get a Marine posture and skinnier ribs.

And, like many here have already said, cut the sugar and grains completely out for a while. That drops inches very quickly, too.


70 posted on 06/27/2013 7:12:00 PM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman.....)
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To: Chickensoup

You can find Glucerna at Walmart and any drug store.

When my diabetic husband was in the hospital, they kept bottles of Glucerna next to his bed all the time. That drink didn’t raise his sugar level so he could drink them any time. That’s where I learned about them.


71 posted on 06/27/2013 7:13:57 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: numberonepal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsURicKB_G8

TTap?


72 posted on 06/27/2013 7:14:22 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: NativeSon

thank you, never had hear of it.


73 posted on 06/27/2013 7:14:53 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

I would suggest Paleo/Atkins/South Beach in light of your prediabetes, but I see from your post that you’d like to begin with two shakes & a meal (similar to the Slim Fast plan). Atkins makes shakes, and, surprisingly, they taste pretty darn good!! Just keep them cold & you’d swear you’re having a real, thick, milkshake!!

You are probably aware of this but in case not, I’ll say it: stay away, FAR AWAY from soy. It is estrogenic & really screws with your endocrine system. Big time. If you really must partake, I’d suggest edamame only as it isn’t processed. Fermented & processed soy is horrible for your endocrine system. A simple Google search will turn up boatloads of credible info on this.

I’d also suggest getting a good water pitcher. I use a Clearly Filtered pitcher because it removes much of the pharmaceuticals & fluoride that contaminates our drinking water. People on “the Pill” and other prescription meds pee them out & the aren’t removed in our water treatment facilities, so one can only guess the wild hormonal roller coaster these remnant drugs can cause on the rest of us.

www.clearlyfiltered.com


74 posted on 06/27/2013 7:15:26 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Yosemitest

Look, it’s extremely important you DON’T become diabetic.
I am Diabetic Type II myself.

______________________

I know, and if I drop the 30 I need to I think it will be an issue off the books.


75 posted on 06/27/2013 7:16:58 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

http://www.amazon.com/Glucerna-Hunger-Smart-Shake-Chocolate/dp/B005KQ2Z0W/ref=sr_1_4?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1372384607&sr=1-4&keywords=glucerna+diabetic

This Glucerna looks good = “Hunger Smart Shake”. I’ll get some of these for sure. Walmart might have a limited number of types, but if they don’t have this one, drug stores should.


76 posted on 06/27/2013 7:17:38 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: markomalley
Try less than $10.00. That Dr. Atkins Diet works.
I've used it several times, and a Flight Surgeon suggested it to me in the late 70s at Seymour Johnson AFB, the first time I used it.
It's very heavy on meats, and there no calories to count.
After 2 weeks you can have some greens, and dark greens are the best, but only in small amounts.
It works well, but it's expensive, due to the cost of meat.
77 posted on 06/27/2013 7:20:54 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Marcella

With all do respect, I still think Glucerna has too many carbs - 27g in a shake to be exact, 6g of which are sugar & it contains fructose.

If you really want a low-carb, low-sugar shake, try Atkins shakes. Of course the hospital kept Glucerna at your husband’s bedside.....they probably have a contract with Abbott.

Once I saw a poster with diabetic meal plans on it. It was the “exchange” program....it told people with diabetes how much carbs they could eat at each meal. Amazingly, it allowed for a piece of white toast at breakfast & a small serving of pasta at lunch. In the bottom corner in teeny tiny print was a “brought to you by Eli Lilly” Lilly is the largest manufacturer of insulin, so of course they want their diabetics eating carbs! They want to keep them insulin dependent!!!


78 posted on 06/27/2013 7:22:44 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: numberonepal

I will. Is there a particular practitioner on Youtube that you recommend?


79 posted on 06/27/2013 7:23:52 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: sourcery

> I lost over 100 lbs using the Food Addicts system: http://www.foodaddictsanonymous.org/

Thats a great accomplishment. You should be commended. I lost 30 lbs doing crossfit in about 3 months


80 posted on 06/27/2013 7:25:05 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Yosemitest
It works well, but it's expensive, due to the cost of meat.

I never found it to be that way...but, on the other hand, I do a lot of hamburger...and omelets versus more expensive cuts of meat. Also, incorporating protein shakes really helps out a lot, too.

81 posted on 06/27/2013 7:27:46 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Chickensoup

Medifast worked for me. After the stress of major surgery I regained the weight and I’m back on it. 12 pounds gone in two weeks so far. Got another 28 to go.

Based on how it went last time, the weight loss will slow down to a reasonable rate of about 10-12 pounds a month right about now. So I should be where I want to be in less than three months.

The trick is to do the transition plan after you lose the weight. It takes about a month to retrain yourself how to eat properly so that you don’t regain it.


82 posted on 06/27/2013 7:30:22 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: conservative cat

I don’t have any problems with milks and cheeses- I love them

soups like French onion with asiago cheese...MMMMmmmmmm

I can live on soups and stews and chili’s


83 posted on 06/27/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

“With all do respect, I still think Glucerna has too many carbs “

The one I suggested is one carb choice and 15 grams of protein to help manage hunger, plus Carbsteady which helps minimize blood sugar spikes.

I had the husband in two different hospitals and both suggested Glucerna for diabetics. It works and did work and it worked at home for him.


84 posted on 06/27/2013 7:45:31 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Chickensoup

Forgot to ping you to 84.


85 posted on 06/27/2013 7:46:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Chickensoup
After reading this thread it reminded me of when I started on Atkins and was looking for information. I have no advice to offer you here except, if you want a really good laugh, go here Atkins Induction and read through the thread paying particular attention to the poster named JJWalker. I still can't read it without laughing so hard that I cry.

Best of luck with whatever diet you choose.

86 posted on 06/27/2013 7:49:20 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Chickensoup

Bump


87 posted on 06/27/2013 7:50:05 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Chickensoup

If your doctor has a dietician in her clinic, they may be able to direct you to a product that works for pre diabetic people.


88 posted on 06/27/2013 7:50:20 PM PDT by freemama
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To: Chickensoup
If you're not diabetic now, start eating dark greens, collars, turnip greens, mustard greens, cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, etc.
Study micronutrients.
What these videos: I am NOT recommending you to become a vegetarian, because meat will become your primary source of food.
But you need to pick your vegetables carefully, so they will help you the most.
89 posted on 06/27/2013 7:50:42 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Rockingham

I agree. Atkins works great. I lost 35 lbs on it once eating fried chicken and pork chops. I think now they call it the paleo diet.


90 posted on 06/27/2013 7:53:37 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Chickensoup
It will never be off the books.
As you get older, it will become more important.
Get active, either walking or swimming will help.
91 posted on 06/27/2013 7:54:39 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: DH

LOL!!


92 posted on 06/27/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Chickensoup

Try large organic salad. Try Bragg brand salad dressings. They are delicious. Fresh tomato and any fruit to top it off. Lean meats for protien is fine. I found a delicious vinegar.....yes delicious....it is Cusine blood orange vinegar.....it is to die for. Just lost 14 pounds in 10 days by knocking out the carbs and potato chips. Try a high quality fish oil pill as well. Make sure it has an enteric coating to prevent fishy obama burps. Remember...you are what you eat eats! Handful portions 5 times a day!


93 posted on 06/27/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by Michigan Bowhunter (Patriots needed!)
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To: Chickensoup

I’m using the Lose It app to track my diet. Ut’s easy to use, and i’m losing weight.


94 posted on 06/27/2013 8:01:00 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: KYGrandma

Read http://www.weightwatchers.com/success/art/index.aspx?SuccessStoryId=20071&sc=600


95 posted on 06/27/2013 8:02:10 PM PDT by UpInArms (without failure there's no success only slavery)
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To: Chickensoup

I’m type 2. Eat less. No desserts. Limit your fast sugars.


96 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:33 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: Chickensoup
I don’t eat much for carbs to begin with.

I'm not sure what you are eating carb wise, however a very low carbohydrate (VLC) is in to 20 to 35 net carb range. This is pretty much the induction phase for Atkins. Most of the research on metabolic syndrome or syndrome X shows very good results with VLC and insulin resistance. Secondly, VLC diets reduce rapidly triglyceride levels independent of weight loss. The ratio of triglyceride levels divided by HDL levels is the strongest predictor for cardiac arterial health. A ratio under two is your target.

One other issue I have discovered is the role of artificial sweeteners. The FDA approval for the sweeteners was based on Type I diabetes. I do not like the terms type I and type II. In type I there is a lack of insulin, hence artificial sweeteners do not effect insulin production. Type II is insulin resistance where there is adequate production but resistance to the added insulin at the cellular level. Artificial sweeteners have not been studied for their effect on a healthy population or Type II diabetes. My experience is artificial sweeteners complicate type II by signaling the need for more insulin from the body. This complicates VLC diets. JMHO & YMMV. I avoid artificial sweeteners and particularly aspartame.
97 posted on 06/27/2013 8:24:31 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Chickensoup

Check out HMR diet. Shakes are very good and they have an at home program if you don’t want or can’t do classes.


98 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:11 PM PDT by FReeperCK
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To: Chickensoup
What has worked for me is to get plenty of exercise (mostly cycling and walking), to avoid eating regular meals, to think about things other than food, to give in to the occasional cravings for particular foods, and to almost never seriously overeat or let myself get seriously hungry.

I have learned that I cannot tolerate a very low-carb diet. I have also learned how to carefully use fat to stop my hunger. I'm not in the "Carbs are evil!" crowd or the "Fat is evil!" crowd. There is a balance...

99 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

My approach is eat a huge breakfast of eggs sausage and bacon...a lunch of a chicken breast with a few vegetables.

For in-between snacks I eat Pure Protein bars (Chocolate Deluxe). And for dinner a light salad with a couple of egg whites and some cheese, but I try to eat before 7, so I don’t eat after that.

And drink a ton of water.


100 posted on 06/27/2013 8:28:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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