Skip to comments.I Can No Longer Tolerate Rush Limbaugh Misrepresenting Medicare
Posted on 07/09/2013 11:15:43 AM PDT by Bob Ireland
For some years I have listened to Rush Limbaugh, and heard him picture Medicare recipients as some sort of ungrateful leaches sucking off of the public dole. He characterizes them as resisting having to pay a dime for their medical coverage.
Being a fan of Rush, I have tolerated this misguidance on his part and sent him e-mails [I am 24-7 member] trying to save him from being caught in a 'lie'. He has never responded to these e-mails - for whatever reason.
Then yesterday - Monday - he mentioned a story about the Congress considering a bill to make Medicare recipients pay 'a few pennies' for their medical coverage - and the bill going down to defeat. I simply cannot remain silent in the face of this total fabrication.
I have been on Medicare for 15 years. My Medicare Part B presently costs me a little pocket change short of $100 a month - a little less that $1,200 a year. That money is deducted out of my Social Security check before I ever receive it. That benefit offers to pay 80% of my allowable medical bills, and I am responsible for the other 20%.
In my case - since I look at government programs with a jaundiced eye - I have signed my Medicare obligations over to a private HMO [called an Advantage Plan]. However, Obama's health care plan has drained the Medicare treasury by hundreds of billions of dollars; therefore the future of the program is in question. In some states I understand the Advantage Plans have already been canceled. Many doctors and hospitals are trying to figure how to get free of Medicare since the Medicare payments are either delayed, diminished or missing altogether. I still cannot be sure my HMO will be part of Medicare next year.
BUT, back to the main theme of this article: How many FReepers pay $1,200 a year for their medical insurance? Probably some do; likely most do not. I am not complaining about paying for my health care - I voluntarily and happily pay the premium.
Furthermore, if it becomes a matter of saving the dollar from total collapse I would accept the cancellation of Medicare altogether. Just stop charging me $100 a month and send the program into the Bermuda Triangle. I have led a fruitful life. HOWEVER, under Obama's healthcare program, that cannot happen. My Medicare could be cancelled and I could be set with the old Indian squaw by the side of the road to waste away - but I would still have to pay my health care premium in order to provide health care for younger folk.
Would someone who can get through to Rush Limbaugh get these points across to him - if he is really interested - so that people can understand the truth about Medicare - not a bunch of myths and misrepresentations.
Seriously. When I was working I paid about exactly that much for the best insurance in the world, BlueCross, full service no questions asked. I consider that a bargain compared to restrictive Medicare, not to mention the $400/mo estimated by a Brit who was defending his NHS just after complaining he couldn’t get a simple endoscope for several months.
Maybe Rush said it while he was bashing Gays/sarc.
As I have already said, then cancel the program altogether and stop charging me for it... I can face it as a man!
Let me put it another way: are you grateful that I am helping subsidize your health insurance, when I have none at the moment?
Correct, and ya said it better than I ever could.
My insurance cost was $2500 a year last year. I cancelled it because I am now on my wife’s insurance. And mine was cheap compared to others. The company paid almost $10,000 for my insurance.
$1200 a year is cheap nowadays.
Medical, dental and "deductables" paid by Mrs llevrok and me in 2012 was $17,000 (premiums were 10K) We were hit with a 20% premium increase in 2013 (due to coverage for pre-exisiting conditions mandated by the boy emperor).
Pardon me if I call medicare people freeloaders, but in comparison, they are.
And so are the 45+% of income earners who pay ZERO income taxes.
And now that SOB Obama is giving a waiver to people who work for businesses of 50 or more until 2015? What do you think will happen to my premiums in 2014 as a result (as unemployed" retirees?).
Me bitter? Naw!
Well, Ive got to go now and get about dying.
Andy always said, “You either get busy living or you get busy dying...”
I am not on Medicare. I am on private health insurance that I pay for through my employer. My plan runs just under $3,000 per year.
“More importantly, he paid for Medicare (as all of us on Medicare did) for all the decades he worked.”
So exempt us from paying into the program today, since what you paid in should cover you in your retirement. We both know that isn’t true.
I did not say it is not cheap... people read stuff into this post that I did not say. Still, I know there are many who pay nothing for their health care, the rest I have no idea. If you like, go campaign for the cancellation of Medicare... I don't mind.
This graph shows that the average man and woman (average defined in the study as average income over their working lives and living to the average life expectancy) who start receiving benefits in 2010 get over 3 times more in benefits than they pay in to the system! Of importance, the study accounts for inflation by calculating all past taxes and future payments in 2010 dollars to provide an accurate comparison.
If the notion that Medicare recipients are simply "getting back what they paid in" is false then where is the money coming from? Simply, the excess received is being borrowed from younger generations and the cost is more than we can bear.
Medicare Part A has been running in the red since 2008.
Maybe the issue with medicare is that it creates a false safety net people depend too much upon so they never have incentive to plan ahead when they are younger and working....
Then when it goes away or gets cut or services reduc ed it is all like, OMG how did this happen....
Everyone is wanting the rewards of being an Ant when they grow older into grasshoppers.... Instead they are living the grasshopper life when they are young because there is no demand for them to be an Ant.
Medicare covers the retired and elderly, Medicaid covers the poor. Those that remain are the working and/or young to middle aged uninsured.
A large portion of the later group might choose not to be covered even though the option is available to them. They might be young and “invincible” and figure they’ll just pay out of pocket since they are healthy. Really no crisis here with these folks because they choose to not be covered. The rest?
Look, Rush Limbaugh is poorly educated and gets a lot of things wrong, but he articulates a point of view that is worth hearing. I wouldn’t take his advice on science but he is independent enough to call foul of the deceitful nature of the global warming cabal. He is ignorant about medicine but smart enough to see how it is being debased to serve political ends. He isn’t great but he is pretty good, and the two don’t have to be enemies.
BUT, back to the main theme of this article: How many FReepers pay $1,200 a year for their medical insurance? Probably some do; likely most do not.
So the main theme of your article is that you think the $1200 a year you pay medical insurance is very expensive?
If so, your entire argument is based on a misconception.
Realizing that might help you understand the responses youre getting.
I know several people paying more than that per month for their coverage. If one considers an employers cost for healthcare to be a part of an employee's pay (as they should), then most everyone with healthcare is paying far in excess of $1200/year.
I pay 40 years into a plan, I am not a free loader. I am an investor.
Rep. Dan Rostenkowski Running from Seniors
THIS is what Rush was talking about yesterday.
Meh, Limbaugh’s been a fool for years. Haven’t listened to him in a VERY long time. Just another “news entertainment” clown.
Medicare is a financially untenable program run by an inept, corrupt government. For services rendered it is a stingy as you can get.
Thank you for being able to read this post... apparently an unusual talent, eh?
Bottom line: it is a government run ponzi scheme.
It’s not a question of whether you are a bad person, it’s a question of whether Medicare is a good program. By the way, you didn’t personally design Medicare did you?
“..government doesn’t work..”
Charity/alms no gov
“If boomers were as conservative as their parents”, The “Greatest Generation” wasn’t all that “conservative”.
What did it cost me for years when I worked? Of course, that has nothing to do with this post.
So if have been on the system for 15 years you didn’t pay a DIME into the Medicare Perscription coverage portion!
Thanks for Playing along. Now if you would thank all your Freeper friends who some pay 10 times more for their own insurance AND pay yours thru the Medicare tax I am sure a few would appreciate it.
Then please campaign to cancel the program... I don't mind. Just have them stop charging me when they stop the benefits.
Haven't had to pay for health insurance out in the market lately, have you? I pay twice that and I have a company that provides reasonably priced coverage.
Part b? What about Part a? Do you pay a dime for that?? I do! I pay 2.9% of my income to that welfare crap!
Sucks to be you, and me, by extension . . . because I'm being asked to carry "your" Ponzi "investment" forward.
Then please campaign to end the program... I do not mind.
And yet, they are still more conservative than boomers. Which, speaks volumes.
Really, anyone who has a serious illness/surgery/hospitalization gets back more benefits than they pay into ANY insurance plan
I'm also a Medicare recipient and wish I weren't. I had good coverage with Blue Shield for a reasonable cost but was forced to take Medicare because Blue Shield drops you at 65, so it's Medicare or nothing. Although I'm healthy with no chronic medical conditions, it would be foolish not to take the Medicare coverage, such as it is. However, because I have little choice in the matter, I certainly don't consider myself a 'leech'. The Medicare coverage isn't free and I have no say in the premiums.
If Rush uses that term and means it, he is badly misinformed, which I doubt. Of course when you make 40 million or so every year like Rush does - and I don't begrudge it to him - it's going to be hard to relate to someone who has to take the government medical insurance or have nothing. That may be the crux of the problem if Limbaugh actually refers to Medicare recipients as 'leeches'.
Given the premise of your first post is true, isn't that what Rush is doing?
You are UNEDUCATED!
“How many FReepers pay $1,200 a year for their medical insurance?”
Are you really that disconnected with reality? Even when employers pay for some of the medical insurance costs, many families pay that EACH MONTH.
Your Medicare Part B premiums only cover 25% of the actual costs. By law, the remaining 75% comes from General Revenues. This represents a subsidy by current taxpayers.
Uneducated and ignorant too! Oh my.
No, no I’m not.
You say, “we paid for it, we should get what we paid”.
So then, exempt everyone under 65 since what you paid into it should be sufficient for you to live off in your retirement.
35 posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2013 2:32:44 PM by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
I don't Care who you are, that there is FUNNY. The above comment comes from somone who never paid a dime in the perscription Coverage part of Medicare.
Bob, Care to compare what percentage of your income you had to hand over in SSI taxes during your lifetime? How about Dollar amounts. I guarentee you at 35 years old I had already paid in a Larger Percentage and 3-5 times what you paid. Thanks Bob. I think we all pretty much get your drift. Something like, BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I Want my FREE STUFF!
“I pay 40 years into a plan, I am not a free loader. I am an investor.”
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(sarcasm in good fun, no offense intended)
So exempt everyone under 65. Simple. :)
Out of MY paycheck comes SS and Medicare taxes.
I get nothing now nor will I get anything later for it.
People who did not earn my money take it.
I pay property taxes for garbage built years ago when YOU floated bonds because you didn’t want to pay for it.
I’m stuck paying for retired municipal employees who milked the system that YOU supported for years.
Our most-deserving uniformed military are awarded a bare pittance compared to what they have EARNED!
Whatever you pay now for your “insurance” is not enough. You are receiving welfare. Face it, accept it and ST*U about it, except to say thank you.
Sick to death of greedy geezers complaining. YOU ARE THE REASON for most of the current problems.
Go ahead and flame. You’ve been blowing hot gas for years.
Thank you for clarifying this about Part A and Part B. I did not wish to get too detailed, because I am not talking about what about 90% of the posters on this thread keep babbling about.
Veterans should not have to pay for healthcare - especially service-related disabilities. As for the rest of us: go ahead and cancel the whole thing - and stop charging me for it if you do that.
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