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Brought home a new puppy yesterday; he's got Parvo
22 July 2013 | Rides a Red Horse

Posted on 07/22/2013 2:29:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse

The wife and I just brought home a German Shepherd pup yesterday. He seemed "shy" but later I realized he was lethargic. He ate a bit but not like what you would expect from a two month old Shepherd.

We took him to the Vet today to have him checked out and he tested positive for Parvo. He hadn't started puking yet and they put him on IVs so with a little luck he should recover.

Our other dog is up to date on his shots and the cats are supposed to be immune. I went around and disinfected everything he touched. The vet said they have a 90% success rate so it looks good.

I contacted the family who sold us the pup. They called back and let me know the last one from the litter died.

Does anyone here have experience with Parvo?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; parvo; pets; puppy; sickpuppy
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Yay!


101 posted on 07/22/2013 6:20:16 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Despite the rough catheter, the vet is the best place for him.

There’s only so much you could do at home and his chances are *much* better with an IV.

Prayers and best wishes for the little guy.


102 posted on 07/22/2013 6:22:04 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Faith65

This vet is good. I think he’ll be alright.


103 posted on 07/22/2013 6:23:52 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Salamander

He was lethargic but responsive and he wagged his tail. He kept going back to the wet food and held it down even though he didn’t wolf it down. I think he’ll be alright.


104 posted on 07/22/2013 6:27:30 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Good to hear!

:)


105 posted on 07/22/2013 6:29:57 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Thanks... very sorry to hear the pup has Parvo. Hopefully, it’ll have a full recovery.


106 posted on 07/22/2013 6:55:38 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
So sorry to hear of your sick puppy. The people you got him from were irresponsible, but from what you say, it would be like squeezing blood from a turnip to go after them for money.

He is obviously so much better off with you and your vet than being left to the uncertain attentions of the "breeders".

From what you're saying about him eating, it sounds encouraging and I really hope that the pup makes it, and lives a long grand life with his loving new family!

107 posted on 07/22/2013 6:58:52 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Thanks!


108 posted on 07/22/2013 7:11:25 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Hope this pup does well. I think he’ll be OK.

I wouldn’t blame you for asking for a return of sales. The vet bills may be beyond since this is a friend and they weren’t planning to be dog breeders.

My beloved German Shepherd, who would’ve been 29 yesterday, had a seizure within the first week we had her. We called the breeders, a famous show handler, and he was so sorry and offered to take her back. He was far away so we said we’d keep her and see what happened. It was very nice of him to offer for undetermined problem. This in the days before breeders offered - no, demand - contracts for all this stuff. It was just “handshake”, if that. Turns out vet couldn’t find anything, I saw a dead wasp right next to her crate where she had the seizure, and she never had another episode. Great dog.

Good luck. I love GS.


109 posted on 07/22/2013 7:53:37 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

There is actually a known but poorly understood effect known as hormesis in which exposure to the toxins generated by an infection spurs a wider beneficial response.


110 posted on 07/22/2013 7:55:46 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I mean it with all my heart. I have 2 kittehs, and if they were ill, I would be beside myself. I’ve had to deal with geriatric kitteh illnesses and subsequent loss, and it is just heartrending. So, go lil’ pup, go-go-go and get completely well. Then, Dad will have to post a pic of your absolutely adorable lil’ self for us all to enjoy.


111 posted on 07/22/2013 8:00:31 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Don’t listen to those saying “take the puppy back, and get a refund”. You were meant to get that puppy, YOU were meant to save that puppies life. To take him/her back is surely to let it die.

Obviously I’m a dog lover, a retired Marine, but you’re already invested, might as well take the hill while you’re at it.


112 posted on 07/22/2013 8:28:25 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Doesn’t “sound” cruel...

It IS cruel.


113 posted on 07/22/2013 8:29:00 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I’ll be praying for the little guy.


114 posted on 07/22/2013 8:56:51 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Shadowstrike; Responsibility2nd

That depends on what you’ve experienced.

We saved Halla from sure death at 4 weeks old.
A huge prayer thread went on for her.

She did live and we thought she was ‘okay’, except for being a bit quirky.

April 30, another prayer thread went up for her again because she had an “episode”.

$3500 later, we found out she had 85% of her brain filled with water and time was the enemy.

Only a $10K operation gave her any hope..slim as it was.

Still, we tried to raise the money...and fell very short.

May 22, I watched her deterioration finally climax in a horrible, brain frying, screaming seizure.

An hour later, I was holding my getting-herself-back-together-post-seizure heart of hearts baby girl on my lap while a cold, killing needle was shoved in her arm as she fought desperately to stop it.

I do not have words to describe the utter emotional devastation of that.

It almost killed -me-.
I felt her die and something deep inside me died, too.

I *know* everybody says I was a ‘good mommy’ and ‘saved her’ and I wouldn’t trade the time I did have with her [a whole 7 months] for the world but if I had to do it all over again, sometimes I wonder if I wouldn’t just walk away from her, a 4 week old pup left semi-conscious in a cold bathtub.

Which would have been less cruel for us both?

To have let her just slip totally into the shock induced near-coma I found her in or the 7 months that ended in heart and soul crushing, screaming horror?

To have her die unconscious and unaware in hervery young, nearly ‘larval state’ or for her to have death forced upon her in a strange place by the people she loved as an 8 month old pup?

I will spend the rest of my life seeing her eyes as she begged me to stop the vet and his needle.

I will spend the rest of my life hating myself for not saving her.

I will spend the rest of my life missing her so much I can barely stand it.

I will spend the rest of my life hating that she didn’t even live to outgrow her ‘puppy knuckles’.

I haven’t even touched upon what it did to hubby as she was his “first dog” or he fact that the nearly $4K bills have, for all intents and purposes, bankrupted us as our business has collapsed under Obama.

I think of Pet Semetery and the old man saying “Sometimes, dead is better”.

It’s my nature to keep stubbornly trying and trying and trying, especially where my dogs are concerned.

I love her desperately, still, but I wonder if I will ever recover from the price I’ve paid, and will always pay, to have her for those 7 short months.

It has broken me in more ways than one.

Even FReepers have noticed that my ‘spirit’ is dimmed.

Sometimes, you get handed a hopeless proposition and all you do if you charge up that hill anyway is hurt yourself and prolong the suffering of an innocent animal.

Was she ‘happy”?
Oh, yes..in the way that only severely brain impaired innocents can be.
Did she ‘hurt’ all that time?
Probably.
Congenital hydrocephalus causes terrible headaches [among other awful problems] and it KILLS me to know that she never ‘knew any different’ since pain was her ‘normal’ state.

I loved that little angel more than my own life...but if I knew then what I know now, I would have let her go in peace while she wasn’t even aware of anything, yet.

Nothing is ever black and white/either, or.

That was a hard, HARD lesson for me to learn.

The sad part is, I’m so damned stupid that I *know* if the situation comes around again, I’ll probably bring another hopelessly broken thing home.

It’s who am I...for better or worse.

The only cold comfort I have is the hope that I will see her again, someday.


115 posted on 07/22/2013 9:51:44 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Spirochete

Thank you for the information.


116 posted on 07/22/2013 10:52:00 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Salamander

Oh, Salamander.

I am old, and have no answers, but wish I did.

All I know so far - life hurts, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either a fool, or is trying to sell you something.

All I can offer you, despite my personal pain, is that sometimes death is a blessed relief for those who are suffering.

That said, I hate it, because I am now alone, having to carry on, wondering why.


117 posted on 07/22/2013 10:52:47 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own." — Ma)
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To: ronniesgal

It’s the blood that makes it small terrible. No vet can cure parvo, the symptoms can only be treated, and the dog has to be able to last longer than the blood and fluid loss. It wouldn’t matter how many times you took it to the vet. I”m sorry you had to go through that; it is heart breaking.


118 posted on 07/22/2013 10:56:45 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

You’re welcome.


119 posted on 07/22/2013 11:00:31 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Usually it takes 3 to 4 vaccinations before a puppy is relatively safe from parvo. Eight weeks is usually when either the first or second shot is given. It wouldn’t have mattered much if they had spent the money.


120 posted on 07/22/2013 11:05:47 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

It is a variant.


121 posted on 07/23/2013 3:56:59 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I’m taking my wife to an appointment and we’re checking on Caliburn this afternoon.

Thank you everyone for all of the advice, prayers and support!


122 posted on 07/23/2013 5:12:15 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Yes, unfortunately we do. About ten years ago, we got a rescue puppy. Within 24 hours of us getting her home, she acted “strangely”. Parvo. We contacted the shelter and they had already put down the rest of the litter. Okay... it is pricey to treat Parvo. They get really, really sick. They are quarantined and you have to wear booties to go and see the puppy. However, please do this. I am telling you the honest truth that our Gretchen wouldn’t have survived if we didn’t visit her. I think she understood that we wanted her. The good thing is this is happening during the week for you. We had to transfer our dog on a Friday to another doggie hospital that stayed open 24/7 and then transfer her back to vet hospital #1 on Monday.

Your doggie sounds like he/she is doing better than our Gretchen did. At one point, we went to CVS for a human medicine that was sort of a last ditch effort. For the life of me, I can’t remember what it was but it did work. Just so you know, Gretchen didn’t have any long term side effects from the Parvo. Her weight went back up as soon as we got her home. Good luck and prayers for your family. Hugs, Mom


123 posted on 07/23/2013 7:04:28 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Salamander

Salamander, no advice can take away your pain, but you must console yourself that you did your absolute best at the time for your dog, even if hindsight causes you to second guess your decisions back then. At some point, you must say, “I did everything humanly possible” and take solace from that.

Last year, doctors confronted me and my sister with some hard choices regarding treatment options for our critically ill father. After he died, we replayed the scenarios over and over. Sometimes there are no good options and we learned to accept that and not torture ourselves. At least you have begun to partially fill that vacuum in your life with a new dog! Go give it another hug.


124 posted on 07/23/2013 11:11:56 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Update -

We checked on him and he’s quarantined. They’ve been giving him an IV with nutrition and antivirals and he looks a bit better.

If he continues to improve they’ll give him soft food tonight or tomorrow.

Thank you all.


125 posted on 07/23/2013 1:31:47 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Our Zoe got parvo before she came to us. In fact, if not for the parvo, she likely would have ended up in another home. Someone else had a hold on her, she got sick and went into foster care and isolation. We happened to be at the humane society the day she came back in. We asked about getting her. They tried to contact the person with the hold several times, couldn’t get them. She came home with us.

She had a number of health issues, but not related to parvo that I can tell. She grew to be almost Dane-sized, 30-31 inches at the shoulder and #110 lbs. She lived to be a little over 14 1/2 years old. One of the many people who became friends to us through Zoe was a dog behaviorist. When we mentioned that Zoe had parvo when a puppy she laughed and said, “Normally parvo will stunt their growth.” We all wondered how big she might have gotten had she not had parvo.

She’s pictured on my profile page.

Hoping for the best for your pup. Please keep us posted...


126 posted on 07/23/2013 7:19:20 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: vetvetdoug
Thank you vetvetdoug. For the entire post, but especially:

Nothing makes me happier than to send a puppy home that has almost met the reaper with this disease and nothing is sadder and disheartening after I have worked so hard and still lose a puppy.

... and for your comments about the mutation cycle...
127 posted on 07/23/2013 7:27:32 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: green pastures

Thank you for the info. Ours has huge feet so we know he’s meant to get big.


128 posted on 07/24/2013 4:34:07 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Salamander

Halla is in God’s hands, now. She is suffering no longer. Lord willing, when God creates the New Heaven and the New Earth, you will see her there (if not before) and she will run to you (along with all the other dogs you have owned), a happy, healthy doberman.

You will likely be pinned down for some time on that day.

:)


129 posted on 07/24/2013 6:23:02 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

UPDATE -

Caliburn is home!

We’ve got some meds but he’s looking a lot better. Apparently, he also had parasites on top of Parvo so he gets one more dose for that plus 6 days worth of tablets.


130 posted on 07/24/2013 12:01:14 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

That is GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!


131 posted on 07/24/2013 4:52:09 PM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Great news! I was just popping in to check. Happy your pup is home and hoping for continued improvement. We will all want pictures when he ready :-)


132 posted on 07/24/2013 5:42:40 PM PDT by missycocopuffs
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To: missycocopuffs

I’m no HTML expert but I’ll see what I can do to post some.

Our big Maine Coon is friendly towards him. Our almost one year old female black cat is stand-offish. Our three year old Cocka-Poo is bipolar (friendly one minute and hostile the next).

The Cocka-Poo attacked him and the Maine Coon came running. We live in interesting times.


133 posted on 07/24/2013 7:09:53 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Great news ! Congrats
Now get that pup something to chew on


134 posted on 08/02/2013 11:29:56 PM PDT by daku
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To: daku

We have a lot of chew toys for both dogs. We won’t buy any more containing stuffing!

He looks to have grown two or three times his size since we brought him home.


135 posted on 08/03/2013 6:21:00 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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