Skip to comments.Went to the mail box and was aggressed by new neighbors Pit Bull (Freeper opinions requested)
Posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
I retired 10 years ago to take of elderly parents. Dad died peacefully last year and Mom is still kicking.
After spending the afternoon in the eye doc's office with Mom, came home and, after settling her down, went for the mail.
New neighbor has a Pit-Bull and today this dog was loose. As I went to the mail box, the dog ran over to the middle of the street (perhaps 15 feet away) and bared his teeth.
His owners were in the yard but did not call the dog. At the same time a UPS truck stop in front of their house, but the driver refused to get out of his truck.
Question is "what steps do I take as a good citizen?"
The next door neighbors inherited the house from the girl's grandmother. The girl's husband is a born again Christian...but he was previously in prison for drugs.
Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive.
Freeper opinions appreciated.
BTW, I have cats who lounge around in the front yard. If this dog kills my cats...I am apt to become upset. And an upset Freeper (armed to the teeth) is not a nice thing to behold.
Step One - Complain to Animal Control, make sure there is a paper trail that this dog is aggressive
Got it...will do that first thing in the morning.
Go talk to the neighbor and ask him to kindly keep his dog secured. Only escalate if that approach fails.
Call the police and report it.
Find something for self defense.
Let you neighbors know (by registered mail) that you felt threatened and how letting their dog run loose is a violation of city ordinances
Get some photos
It is all about documentation to CYA if something bad happens...
SO when you have to shoot it, there is a record
Thx much...will do.
Do you have something that can videograph the dog’s behavior?
“Welcome to to the neighborhood. Nice house you have there. If your dog bites me, it’ll be my house.”
Explain it to the neighbor on his property one time.
Then your conscience is clear to do what you have to.
Hi, MY 2 cent.. I have Danes, And they are protective yet not easily illed...I would suggest since this will be a long term thing. HAve the owner introduce you to the dog...talk to him about it to set it up. You and the owner and the dog hang out in their front yard...good way to get to know all the new neighbors. Then the dog will know your scent and body outline and swagger.
Next time you see the neighbors, ask them where they prefer the body of the dog be placed after you shoot it...front door? Back patio?
And sound like a genuinely accomodating neighbor.
This is one for the Doggie Ping List.
I am well-armed but wasn’t carrying when I went to the mail box.
Pit bulls used to be a terrific breed...bad owners past 30 yrs have caused a lot of damage...
There is a true story of a pit bull who was a genuine war hero who ‘served’ with troops in WWI, receiving citations from Pershing and even captured a German soldier by himself.
Sgt. Stubby the dog
If black, MOVE. Their dog will eventually kill you.
If white, and if you felt threatened by their dog, it needs to be reported (Animal control or police; not sure which). Think of it this way: Your actions now could end up saving a child's life LATER. This owner needs to learn leash laws and that their dog is cocked firearm.
Establish a paper trail. There’s probably a leash law. Call the cops routinely. If the dog menaces/charges kill it or it will kill you.
And I don't think he will be sweet if he comes into my yard to kill my cats.
You know what has to be done. just go ahead and do it. Where I live long, long ago in a case like yours, you would explain the problem to the dog’s owner and the problem would be taken care of. But those days have went the way of the dodo bird.
Get pepper spray right away.
Keep them kitties indoors until this is resolved!
Should he introduce the kitties to the dog, too?
I believe it was a pro football player by the name of Michael ??? (can’t remember his last name, but I know he’s playing football again,) who helped to ruin the breed..
Anonymously, if possible. You know.. These days. What are the leash LAWS in your area?
If the dog is young but aggressive you have an owner problem. So sad for the dog that he ended up where he did, but I would not want to be in a position to not defend myself.
Know the leash laws and aggressive dog laws where you live. Document, document, document. If the owner wouldn't even call the dog they trained to be aggressive, they are scum and the dog will pay the ultimate price for their idiocy.
is it legal to walk your yard with a shotgun? Is open carry legal in your area? If so let the cops know what’s up and open carry. Get the cops input, but carrying a holstered pistol will leave your problem neighbor with the knowledge that his dog is toast if its gets on your property. Lastly video security system. ps talk to your mailman. they have the right to refuse service to people with aggressive animals, a heads up carry pepper spray will be appreciated.
BUT...this couple has inherited this house and the man of the family is a born again Christian who has served time for drugs. As we all know, there are many types of born again Christians...some still quite dangerous.
Tell the born-again former-drug dealer who got a free house that if you ever again see his dog a half-inch out of his property unleashed, you will call Animal Control. Be cleaning a shotgun when you tell him this.
Get UPS and others to also file a written police complaint.
Wow this is an impressive bunch of poor manners represented here along with fear. I concur with talk to your neighbor first and introduce yourself and make your concern known. You can get litigious afterwards if you feel like it. What the hell happened in America when the first thing we want to do is not talk to our neighbors but call the government.
Sorry, but I doubt that first statement. The second and third seem to fit. I'd contact the cops to find out if he is still on probation or parole. That would improve your options.
You have a difficult problem - a drug dealing convict who probably has ties to some mighty nasty folks. I'd start making a record with the cops (NON-emergency number) and animal control. I'd aim a camera from the front of the house toward their property to document things.
A test would be to tell them the dog frightened you and ask them to keep it secured. If they find that humorous, it will tell you a lot. If they really are Christians, they'll accommodate you.
And if you can, get a gun.
Ii should also add that I take my 2 dogs to the “doggie park” here in our town every afternoon. There are several pit bulls who come sometimes, and those dogs are very sweet and non-threatening. (I do tend to watch my dogs more carefully when the pits are there, though.)
and letters to the local media about it too
Make sure there is a track record that this dog could very well be violent.
Pics and video of it running free and growling if you can get it
Just don’t go looking for trouble and push your luck. When/If it happens and you are forced to shoot this thing you want to be able to defend yourself from the lawsuit from the owners and possibly the state.
Give the neighbors one chance. Perhaps b/c of their background....they have no clue how a *neighbor* behaves.
Next time they are out....go over .... with a marrow bone and dog cookies [presumably for the dog].
Is there a chance in the future your frail mom will be the one going to the mailbox? If that is the case...I would take this very seriously, but I would still approach the neighbor in a friendly way. Give them one chance to fix things. One.
And don’t let mom go the mailbox.
No, step 1 is keep your cats inside your house at all times.
I’m glad I live in a very small town.
Our Pit Bull is very nice, he’s a giant scaredy cat when someone tries to take his picture and fireworks scare him to hide under the table and shivver
BTW, don’t know if you have kids, but I’m sure your neighbors do. Making them all aware of the new doggie resident is the least a good neighbor can do in this situation.
Provided the cops get the right address....
Can we *assume* the cops will get the right house? Heh.
Oh yeah, the guy that invented Vap-O-Rub....
Your cats run free and poop in your neighbors’ flower beds but that’s OK? It is not life threatening but it is wrong and inconsiderate on your part. But to the free range Pit Bull situation, that is so wrong in so many ways. I would have a peaceful discussion with the owners. If that is unsuccessful talk to animal control. Move your cats indoors or buy a farm. Free range pets and suburbs don’t mix.
Drop a dime on your new neighbors...... tell the cops they’re dealing drugs. The cops will show up and shoot the dog for you.
If your cats are in your yard he WILL KILL them. I repeat: the dog will kill your cats if you do not confine your cats to the house.
Poor manners? Like a new neighbor with a dangerous breed allowed to roam uncontrolled with the owner’s knowledge and assent? That sort of poor manners?
If they’re that lacking in common sense and decency screw em.
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