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Went to the mail box and was aggressed by new neighbors Pit Bull (Freeper opinions requested)

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

I retired 10 years ago to take of elderly parents. Dad died peacefully last year and Mom is still kicking.

After spending the afternoon in the eye doc's office with Mom, came home and, after settling her down, went for the mail.

New neighbor has a Pit-Bull and today this dog was loose. As I went to the mail box, the dog ran over to the middle of the street (perhaps 15 feet away) and bared his teeth.

His owners were in the yard but did not call the dog. At the same time a UPS truck stop in front of their house, but the driver refused to get out of his truck.

Question is "what steps do I take as a good citizen?"

The next door neighbors inherited the house from the girl's grandmother. The girl's husband is a born again Christian...but he was previously in prison for drugs.

Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive.

Freeper opinions appreciated.

BTW, I have cats who lounge around in the front yard. If this dog kills my cats...I am apt to become upset. And an upset Freeper (armed to the teeth) is not a nice thing to behold.


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1 posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Step One - Complain to Animal Control, make sure there is a paper trail that this dog is aggressive


2 posted on 08/07/2013 6:38:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Got it...will do that first thing in the morning.


3 posted on 08/07/2013 6:40:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Go talk to the neighbor and ask him to kindly keep his dog secured. Only escalate if that approach fails.


4 posted on 08/07/2013 6:40:12 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: RoosterRedux

Call the police and report it.
Find something for self defense.
Let you neighbors know (by registered mail) that you felt threatened and how letting their dog run loose is a violation of city ordinances
Get some photos

It is all about documentation to CYA if something bad happens...


5 posted on 08/07/2013 6:40:22 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: RoosterRedux

SO when you have to shoot it, there is a record


6 posted on 08/07/2013 6:41:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: dinodino; 2banana

Thx much...will do.


7 posted on 08/07/2013 6:41:57 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Do you have something that can videograph the dog’s behavior?


8 posted on 08/07/2013 6:41:58 PM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Arm yourself.


9 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:06 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Welcome to to the neighborhood. Nice house you have there. If your dog bites me, it’ll be my house.”


10 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:29 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Explain it to the neighbor on his property one time.

Then your conscience is clear to do what you have to.


11 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:42 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hi, MY 2 cent.. I have Danes, And they are protective yet not easily illed...I would suggest since this will be a long term thing. HAve the owner introduce you to the dog...talk to him about it to set it up. You and the owner and the dog hang out in their front yard...good way to get to know all the new neighbors. Then the dog will know your scent and body outline and swagger.


12 posted on 08/07/2013 6:42:59 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: RoosterRedux

Next time you see the neighbors, ask them where they prefer the body of the dog be placed after you shoot it...front door? Back patio?

And sound like a genuinely accomodating neighbor.


13 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:31 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: RoosterRedux; Joe 6-pack

This is one for the Doggie Ping List.


14 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: sonofagun

I am well-armed but wasn’t carrying when I went to the mail box.


15 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:48 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Pit bulls used to be a terrific breed...bad owners past 30 yrs have caused a lot of damage...

There is a true story of a pit bull who was a genuine war hero who ‘served’ with troops in WWI, receiving citations from Pershing and even captured a German soldier by himself.

Sgt. Stubby the dog


16 posted on 08/07/2013 6:43:59 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: RoosterRedux
Are the dog's owners black or white? There is a different standard depending on the color of the dog's owner.

If black, MOVE. Their dog will eventually kill you.

If white, and if you felt threatened by their dog, it needs to be reported (Animal control or police; not sure which). Think of it this way: Your actions now could end up saving a child's life LATER. This owner needs to learn leash laws and that their dog is cocked firearm.

17 posted on 08/07/2013 6:44:37 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Establish a paper trail. There’s probably a leash law. Call the cops routinely. If the dog menaces/charges kill it or it will kill you.


18 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:39 PM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: NCDave
I met the dog last week. He was sweet then...but he was not sweet today.

And I don't think he will be sweet if he comes into my yard to kill my cats.

19 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: RoosterRedux

You know what has to be done. just go ahead and do it. Where I live long, long ago in a case like yours, you would explain the problem to the dog’s owner and the problem would be taken care of. But those days have went the way of the dodo bird.


20 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:46 PM PDT by sport
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To: RoosterRedux

Get pepper spray right away.


21 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:48 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Keep them kitties indoors until this is resolved!


22 posted on 08/07/2013 6:46:00 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: NCDave

Should he introduce the kitties to the dog, too?


23 posted on 08/07/2013 6:46:17 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I believe it was a pro football player by the name of Michael ??? (can’t remember his last name, but I know he’s playing football again,) who helped to ruin the breed..


24 posted on 08/07/2013 6:47:24 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: RoosterRedux

Anonymously, if possible. You know.. These days. What are the leash LAWS in your area?


25 posted on 08/07/2013 6:48:04 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: basil

Vick


26 posted on 08/07/2013 6:48:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RoosterRedux
Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive

If the dog is young but aggressive you have an owner problem. So sad for the dog that he ended up where he did, but I would not want to be in a position to not defend myself.

Know the leash laws and aggressive dog laws where you live. Document, document, document. If the owner wouldn't even call the dog they trained to be aggressive, they are scum and the dog will pay the ultimate price for their idiocy.

27 posted on 08/07/2013 6:48:27 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: 2banana
"Call the police and report it."

Tell them you think your neighbor might have torn off those labels that you aren't to remove under penalty of law or that they put their recyclables in the regular trash or that you think they are having an illegal Bible Study meetings. When the Cops raid your neighbor's house the situation will quickly be taken care of!
28 posted on 08/07/2013 6:49:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Nice.


29 posted on 08/07/2013 6:49:29 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: GeronL

is it legal to walk your yard with a shotgun? Is open carry legal in your area? If so let the cops know what’s up and open carry. Get the cops input, but carrying a holstered pistol will leave your problem neighbor with the knowledge that his dog is toast if its gets on your property. Lastly video security system. ps talk to your mailman. they have the right to refuse service to people with aggressive animals, a heads up carry pepper spray will be appreciated.


30 posted on 08/07/2013 6:49:32 PM PDT by waynesa98
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31 posted on 08/07/2013 6:49:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
The owners are white and this is a very good neighborhood (unrelated to race).

BUT...this couple has inherited this house and the man of the family is a born again Christian who has served time for drugs. As we all know, there are many types of born again Christians...some still quite dangerous.

32 posted on 08/07/2013 6:50:03 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Liberals' first line of defense is emotion...the fall back position is specious reasoning.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Tell the born-again former-drug dealer who got a free house that if you ever again see his dog a half-inch out of his property unleashed, you will call Animal Control. Be cleaning a shotgun when you tell him this.


33 posted on 08/07/2013 6:50:31 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: RoosterRedux

Get UPS and others to also file a written police complaint.


34 posted on 08/07/2013 6:50:49 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RoosterRedux

Wow this is an impressive bunch of poor manners represented here along with fear. I concur with talk to your neighbor first and introduce yourself and make your concern known. You can get litigious afterwards if you feel like it. What the hell happened in America when the first thing we want to do is not talk to our neighbors but call the government.


35 posted on 08/07/2013 6:51:09 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: RoosterRedux
The girl's husband is a born again Christian...but he was previously in prison for drugs.
Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive.

Sorry, but I doubt that first statement. The second and third seem to fit. I'd contact the cops to find out if he is still on probation or parole. That would improve your options.

You have a difficult problem - a drug dealing convict who probably has ties to some mighty nasty folks. I'd start making a record with the cops (NON-emergency number) and animal control. I'd aim a camera from the front of the house toward their property to document things.

A test would be to tell them the dog frightened you and ask them to keep it secured. If they find that humorous, it will tell you a lot. If they really are Christians, they'll accommodate you.

And if you can, get a gun.

36 posted on 08/07/2013 6:51:10 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PistolPaknMama

Thanks!

Ii should also add that I take my 2 dogs to the “doggie park” here in our town every afternoon. There are several pit bulls who come sometimes, and those dogs are very sweet and non-threatening. (I do tend to watch my dogs more carefully when the pits are there, though.)


37 posted on 08/07/2013 6:51:11 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: RoosterRedux

and letters to the local media about it too

Make sure there is a track record that this dog could very well be violent.

Pics and video of it running free and growling if you can get it

Just don’t go looking for trouble and push your luck. When/If it happens and you are forced to shoot this thing you want to be able to defend yourself from the lawsuit from the owners and possibly the state.


38 posted on 08/07/2013 6:52:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RoosterRedux

Give the neighbors one chance. Perhaps b/c of their background....they have no clue how a *neighbor* behaves.
Next time they are out....go over .... with a marrow bone and dog cookies [presumably for the dog].

Is there a chance in the future your frail mom will be the one going to the mailbox? If that is the case...I would take this very seriously, but I would still approach the neighbor in a friendly way. Give them one chance to fix things. One.

And don’t let mom go the mailbox.


39 posted on 08/07/2013 6:52:44 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: RoosterRedux

No, step 1 is keep your cats inside your house at all times.


40 posted on 08/07/2013 6:52:58 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Mastador1

I’m glad I live in a very small town.


41 posted on 08/07/2013 6:53:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Our Pit Bull is very nice, he’s a giant scaredy cat when someone tries to take his picture and fireworks scare him to hide under the table and shivver


42 posted on 08/07/2013 6:53:40 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RoosterRedux

BTW, don’t know if you have kids, but I’m sure your neighbors do. Making them all aware of the new doggie resident is the least a good neighbor can do in this situation.


43 posted on 08/07/2013 6:53:59 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Kartographer
"When the Cops raid your neighbor's house the situation will quickly be taken care of!"

Provided the cops get the right address....

44 posted on 08/07/2013 6:54:01 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Kartographer

Can we *assume* the cops will get the right house? Heh.


45 posted on 08/07/2013 6:55:01 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: basil

Oh yeah, the guy that invented Vap-O-Rub....


46 posted on 08/07/2013 6:55:15 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: RoosterRedux

Your cats run free and poop in your neighbors’ flower beds but that’s OK? It is not life threatening but it is wrong and inconsiderate on your part. But to the free range Pit Bull situation, that is so wrong in so many ways. I would have a peaceful discussion with the owners. If that is unsuccessful talk to animal control. Move your cats indoors or buy a farm. Free range pets and suburbs don’t mix.


47 posted on 08/07/2013 6:55:20 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Drop a dime on your new neighbors...... tell the cops they’re dealing drugs. The cops will show up and shoot the dog for you.


48 posted on 08/07/2013 6:55:41 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: RoosterRedux

If your cats are in your yard he WILL KILL them. I repeat: the dog will kill your cats if you do not confine your cats to the house.


49 posted on 08/07/2013 6:56:25 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Mastador1

Poor manners? Like a new neighbor with a dangerous breed allowed to roam uncontrolled with the owner’s knowledge and assent? That sort of poor manners?

If they’re that lacking in common sense and decency screw em.


50 posted on 08/07/2013 6:56:51 PM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society)
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