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Went to the mail box and was aggressed by new neighbors Pit Bull (Freeper opinions requested)

Posted on 08/07/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

I retired 10 years ago to take of elderly parents. Dad died peacefully last year and Mom is still kicking.

After spending the afternoon in the eye doc's office with Mom, came home and, after settling her down, went for the mail.

New neighbor has a Pit-Bull and today this dog was loose. As I went to the mail box, the dog ran over to the middle of the street (perhaps 15 feet away) and bared his teeth.

His owners were in the yard but did not call the dog. At the same time a UPS truck stop in front of their house, but the driver refused to get out of his truck.

Question is "what steps do I take as a good citizen?"

The next door neighbors inherited the house from the girl's grandmother. The girl's husband is a born again Christian...but he was previously in prison for drugs.

Pit Bull is young but large and aggressive.

Freeper opinions appreciated.

BTW, I have cats who lounge around in the front yard. If this dog kills my cats...I am apt to become upset. And an upset Freeper (armed to the teeth) is not a nice thing to behold.


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To: ozaukeemom

Most od dog agression is fear on the dog’s part, and imagination on your part.

It’s worse when you are standing than when sitting or squatting.


101 posted on 08/07/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Humorous or just stupid?

Me, humorous. Your advice... well....

102 posted on 08/07/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Yes, I understand that. And you are right..secure the dog or lose it. I am hoping the dog was not raised badly or is mental. Just hoping...


103 posted on 08/07/2013 7:15:45 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: workerbee

I hope yuou’re very young, cuz you have tons to learn.


104 posted on 08/07/2013 7:16:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kartographer

Very creative. I like it.


105 posted on 08/07/2013 7:16:32 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: NCDave; RoosterRedux

I once had a neighbor with two big lab mixes that would get our and run the neighborhood. They weren’t nice labs and were agressive.

I didn’t do anything except be careful and watch my kids closely. One day they cornered my wife in our garage. Turned out ok but I’ll never be nice about dangerous dogs again.


106 posted on 08/07/2013 7:17:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ozaukeemom

Ooops, I misread (not hands and knees). I still would go down on a knee.


107 posted on 08/07/2013 7:17:58 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: editor-surveyor

Let’s get something straight.

This is not a situation of the mailman being nipped on the heels by a yappie dog.

This is going to be a long-term concern. This is a FReeper with a new, potentially unsavory neighbor, who keeps a well-known aggressive breed, who apparently has no concern that it’s off-property and behaving aggressively to others. This FReeper has an elderly mother, and more than likely, other neighbors with children. If you think for one minute that the “best” response to what will be (no doubt) an on-going relationship with this animal is to kneel down and act kindly, you need to have your head extracted from your hindquarters.


108 posted on 08/07/2013 7:21:59 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: RoosterRedux

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109 posted on 08/07/2013 7:22:04 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: RoosterRedux

My advice? .44 spl or .45 acp.


110 posted on 08/07/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ozaukeemom

If the dog really wants you down, he can get you there very quickly. In fact the very fact that the dog has approached but still kept distance indicates that you are at a psychological advantage in the encounter.

If you stay cool, you are in control with dogs.


111 posted on 08/07/2013 7:23:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: workerbee

You obviously know absolutely nothing about dogs.

You should shut up and just read.


112 posted on 08/07/2013 7:25:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mastador1

While he diddles around with useless chatter his cats are gonna get munched, maybe him too. Once a dog shows unprovoked aggression, game over, do what you gotta to get RID of it.


113 posted on 08/07/2013 7:25:37 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: basil
Ii should also add that I take my 2 dogs to the “doggie park” here in our town every afternoon.

If you are taking 2 dogs, I take it Mandy is still a fixture?

114 posted on 08/07/2013 7:26:11 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: RoosterRedux

If the dog eats your cats, and you catch him in the act, use the .357. If the dog comes in your yard and growls at you, growl back,and use the .357. If the dog is friendly and comes in your yard, feed it, and it will be more friendly.


115 posted on 08/07/2013 7:26:46 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Cyclone59

Ask about his home insurance and then report him to his insurance carrier.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/insurance/11-dogs-that-could-raise-your-insurance-costs.aspx


116 posted on 08/07/2013 7:28:32 PM PDT by Saimey
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To: RoosterRedux
You should make inquiries.
"Doos your doog baight?"


117 posted on 08/07/2013 7:29:54 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: RoosterRedux
A Browning Auto-5 would be my recommendation.
Buy a box of Buckshot and destroy the monster.
118 posted on 08/07/2013 7:30:40 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: RoosterRedux

One thing you could do is get an even larger and meaner dog than his. Say an airdale. buy him a collar covered with spikes which will keep the bull dog off his neck.

The bull dog will all most certainly attack but will lose and they wont give up until they are dead. Then your problems are over. At least your dog problems are.


119 posted on 08/07/2013 7:30:56 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: umgud

Excellent. I needed that laugh.


120 posted on 08/07/2013 7:31:00 PM PDT by b359 (The goat is old and gnarly....)
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To: Fire_on_High

>> “Once a dog shows unprovoked aggression...” <<

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Do you know the difference between fear, curiousity, and agression?

And lots of big tough dogs love to play with cats.


121 posted on 08/07/2013 7:31:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: workerbee; editor-surveyor
Me, humorous. Your advice... well....

Agree...your reply to that absurd suggestion was hilarious.

Getting down to "face level" with a pit that's growling and showing teeth is NOT smart. Even if you're Cesar Millan.

122 posted on 08/07/2013 7:33:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Do the documentation thing as posted above then open carry while on your property. Make sure the neighbor sees you while armed. He may be smart enough to put two plus two together and leash his animal.


123 posted on 08/07/2013 7:34:20 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: mylife
I thought you said your doog doesn't bite!!

That's NOT my doog!!

124 posted on 08/07/2013 7:34:46 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: ozaukeemom

Phooey! I hate typos. I would NOT go down onto my knee.


125 posted on 08/07/2013 7:35:20 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: Jane Long

Damn! - Don’t tell me you’re that dumb too.


126 posted on 08/07/2013 7:35:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RoosterRedux

Call the police when the dog is out—they will shoot it!!


127 posted on 08/07/2013 7:36:43 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Damn! - Don’t tell me you’re that dumb too.

No, that would be you...obviously ;)

128 posted on 08/07/2013 7:37:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: usconservative

Thanks and back at ya! :)


129 posted on 08/07/2013 7:37:49 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Did ya talk to the neighbor ? Try the easy way first. Even if ya have to drive over to their home and speak to em from the vehicle to avoid getting chewed on by fido..... Escalate accordingly with local animal control etc till ya get the desired level of safety ......or fido gets DRT aka dead right there....trying to bite you..

Stay safe !


130 posted on 08/07/2013 7:38:36 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: RoosterRedux
I am well-armed but wasn’t carrying when I went to the mail box.

***************

Taurus Judge with .410 rounds....
Sounds about right...

Just My Humble $.02

131 posted on 08/07/2013 7:39:23 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: All

I wished Free Republic would ban threads about Pit Bulls. The idiocy of most posters is embarrassing.


132 posted on 08/07/2013 7:39:59 PM PDT by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: jy8z
I wished Free Republic would ban threads about Pit Bulls.

And I wish Free Republic would ban threads BY snake handlers.

133 posted on 08/07/2013 7:41:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Jane Long

The fearful people never get to live; they get to cower and soil their depends till they get moved to Shady Pines.


134 posted on 08/07/2013 7:41:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: jy8z

And some of those dog shooters probably live near you.


135 posted on 08/07/2013 7:43:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mortrey

LOL! Best answer!


136 posted on 08/07/2013 7:43:48 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Try calling the cops first. In some jurisdictions in or around cities, they respond very well. Pit bulls are simply plugged and planted if seen in my area (middle of nowhere), but there is not here.


137 posted on 08/07/2013 7:44:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: jy8z

I know there are good pit bulls. I would not trust any aggressive dog if it could cause harm to me or mine. Do pits make me nervous? Yes, guess I profile. But, I have known some nice ones. I got bit by a border collie a couple of years ago. Totally my fault. I would not punish that dog for my mistake. This dog is behaving aggressively and not being controlled. Pit or poodle, it is a bad situation. It happens to be a fact that a pit is more likely to cause more damage more quickly.


138 posted on 08/07/2013 7:45:41 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: RoosterRedux

ANY breed of dog that runs in the middle of the street and shows its teeth is scary, especially a pit bull. Any dog should not be running out of their yard, that’s irresponsible dog ownership. Owners of a pit bull that don’t follow that are especially bad dog owners, knowing the stigma with the breed. If they let it happen once, they’ll let it happen again, but next time it might not stop in the middle of the street.

Personally I wouldn’t bother talking to the dog owners, they’ve already shown their irresponsibility and ignorance, doubt they’ll listen. Callvthe proper authorities. Make sure you carry your gun with you next time to get the mail. Stay safe!


139 posted on 08/07/2013 7:46:08 PM PDT by jodster36
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To: editor-surveyor
You would know all about that :)

Now, kindly back off.

140 posted on 08/07/2013 7:47:40 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: RoosterRedux; NCDave

I agree with NCDave. Dogs are smarter than most give credit. They understand that we walk upright, making them prey. Most people cow to large dogs and they make themselves vulnerable to attack.

Have your neighbor introduce you to their four footed child, and procede from there, unless you’re uncomfortable...dogs do sense unease.

Let us know how it turns out!


141 posted on 08/07/2013 7:48:52 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Saimey
Ask about his home insurance and then report him to his insurance carrier.

Excellent point...many insurance companies will yank your homeowners' policy if they find out that you own a pit bull.

142 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:11 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Simple...Mace.

One shot and it’ll never come near you again.

I disagree with others who say get to cops involved. One never knows on whose side the cops will come down. Don’t trust them to be objective for a minute.

Once they’re ‘invited’ on to your property, there’s no telling where their interest will en.

I had a neighbor’s terrier get into my yard a few years ago and maul one of my chickens. I called him, he came over like a man, we discussed and no problem since.


143 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:11 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: usconservative
Thank you for that post. I love all animals, except for evil spawn-of-satan rats, but currently own a cat. Hope to have a dog as well someday. I will not say on an open post what would happen to a neighbor's pet that hurt one of them, as internet records can be subpeonaed (sp?), but suffice to say that if the animal was quick enough to dodge the two-foot-long garden pickaxe that I would immediately gone after it with and the neighbors managed to get it to safety, there is a more permanent solution that could occur. The french name for an old wooden pair of shoes comes to mind, the exact one should not be posted for possible legal ramifications, but it rhymes closely with "$halot". Those with a familiarity with reloading would know best.

The next time the beast got outside, it would be a shame if a sudden case of lead injection occurred from nowhere close by and no firearm found that could have possibly inserted it.

Too, My pet(s) are indoor ones, but they go oot in the evenings for some fresh air and a chance to run about for awhile, then come in when they are ready for dinner. I do not take kindly to threats, most especially to those whom I care for.

144 posted on 08/07/2013 7:51:49 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Introduce yourself to your new neighbors. I suggest something like, “Hi, I’m DocRock and I just wanted to welcome you to the neighborhood. I couldn’t help notice that when your pit was aggressive yesterday, you saw it and didn’t do anything. So, as a welcome gift, I didn’t shoot your dog. What church do you go to? “


145 posted on 08/07/2013 7:52:29 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Jane Long

Now kindly start talking sensible and you won’t need to worry about what I do.

(actually, I didn’t really know about your depends, it was just a good guess)


146 posted on 08/07/2013 7:52:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lots of big tough dogs do. I’ve seen quite a few instances of cats and dogs getting along perfectly well. This doesn’t sound like the sort of dog that’s been socialized to deal with cats, or for that matter humans, and that means the dog’s a danger because of its dumb owner.

I’m not a reflexive pit hater. If anything, I like them and will always give them a chance. However, this dog’s blown it.

I have absolutely zero tolerance for unwarranted aggression in animals.


147 posted on 08/07/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: SgtBob

It’s not “my” responsibility to befriend “your” pet. A lot of dog owners have a problem with this.


148 posted on 08/07/2013 7:53:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: NCDave

I lived next to a part pit for 1 year. After giving the dog biscuits every day for months, I offered to help them with their pool cover. The owner of the dog had to restrain her from attacking me until I got up on the pool deck. I guess she knew my feelings about pits even though I tried to be friendly.


149 posted on 08/07/2013 7:55:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: DocRock; RoosterRedux
Great reply!

I think this part of the original post is being missed by a lot of the dog-defenders here: I couldn’t help notice that when your pit was aggressive yesterday, you saw it and didn’t do anything.

150 posted on 08/07/2013 7:55:47 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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