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Declassified spy photographs reveal lost Roman frontier
PhysOrg ^ | Sep 03, 2013 | University of Glasgow

Posted on 09/04/2013 6:44:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Declassified spy photography has uncovered a lost Roman Eastern frontier, dating from the second century AD.

Research by archaeologists at the Universities of Glasgow and Exeter has identified a long wall that ran 60 kilometers from the Danube to the Black Sea over what is modern Romania. It is considered the most easterly example of a man-made frontier barrier system in the Roman Empire.

Built in the mid-second century AD, 'Trajan's Rampart' as it is known locally, once stood 8.5m wide and over 3.5m high and included at least 32 forts and 31 smaller fortlets along its course. It is thought to have served a similar purpose to other Roman frontier walls, such as Hadrian's Wall, built to defend the Empire from threats to the borders.

Trajan's Rampart actually consists of three separate walls of different dates; the 'Small Earthen Wall', the 'Large Earthen Wall' and the 'Stone Wall'. The constructions were previously known about, although wrongly thought to date to the Byzantine or Early medieval period...

Bill Hanson, Professor of Roman Archaeology from the University of Glasgow, said: "We believe we have enough evidence here to demonstrate the existence of a chronologically complex Roman frontier system, and the most easterly example of a man-made barrier in the Roman Empire, serving to block an important and strategically valuable routeway. It is an incredibly important discovery for the study of Roman history."

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: blacksea; danube; geoglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; orbitalarchaeology; romanempire; romania; satellitearchaeology; trajansrampart
Corona satellite imagery of the wall.

Corona satellite imagery of the wall.

1 posted on 09/04/2013 6:44:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/04/2013 6:44:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Even the Romans understood a good wall is needed to keep the illegals out...


3 posted on 09/04/2013 6:52:09 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

Or a good defense to keep the troops from being slaughtered by the Celts


4 posted on 09/04/2013 6:54:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Whatever happened to the descendants of the Celts?


5 posted on 09/04/2013 6:56:49 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: bigheadfred

They took up basketball and developed a lisp.


6 posted on 09/04/2013 7:01:06 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: ThanhPhero

son of a bitch


7 posted on 09/04/2013 7:02:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: zot

Makes one wonder what might be in old USAF/RAF photo-recce archives. Although, the Corona and KH series give a higher perspective.


8 posted on 09/04/2013 7:03:59 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: bigheadfred

Depends on those you ask...the Romans never conquered them. The English (phttth) managed to marry their way into the country.


9 posted on 09/04/2013 7:05:56 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2banana
Even the Romans understood a good wall is needed to keep the illegals out...

And how did that work for them? Roman Empire still holding strong against then Visigoths?

10 posted on 09/04/2013 7:42:34 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: 2banana

Good fences make good neighbors.


11 posted on 09/04/2013 7:46:59 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Alter Kaker

Worked for about 400 years. Even the great wall of China worked as long as it was manned and kept up. It kept out the Huns—but unmanned caused the mongols almost no time to breach. Even hear of the great wall of Korea? A great historic site-—too bad its in North Korea.


12 posted on 09/04/2013 8:16:03 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good stuff, bfl.


13 posted on 09/04/2013 8:20:52 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Roman Empire still holding strong against then Visigoths?

No because it takes some will to man a wall. Otherwise it is just a find for future archaeologists.
14 posted on 09/04/2013 8:32:28 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: JSteff

...it takes some will to man a wall. Otherwise it is just a find for future archaeologists.

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So very true. {~sigh~}


15 posted on 09/05/2013 5:13:34 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Walls are generally a poor idea militarily. The very considerable resources needed to build and maintain it are usually better spent on other military options.

A linear wall is useless if breached at any point. Whereas a series of strongpoints can be held and used as bases for a counterattack.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 1:54:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: Sherman Logan

“A linear wall is useless if breached at any point. Whereas a series of strongpoints can be held and used as bases for a counterattack.”

True, if the threat is purely military. But some studies of The Great Wall and Hadrian’s Wall suggest that these barriers served as a kind of “customs station” where tariffs could be assessed and the like. In this way these ancient walls served more like a modern border crossing.


17 posted on 09/06/2013 2:14:08 PM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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To: Tallguy

Oh, I agree. But people who haven’t thought about it often believe these walls were meant as military “stop the invasion cold” barriers.

Whereas anybody who’s given them any thought will realize they absolutely cannot function that way.

The classic example of course is the Maginot Line. What would the correlation of forces in the Battle of France have been had the resources poured into the ML gone instead into tanks and planes?

Actually, I suspect it wouldn’t have mattered. France collapsed more out of spiritual malaise than from being physically overpowered. More tanks and planes would not have helped.


18 posted on 09/06/2013 2:30:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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