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The Disaster Myth Narrative: No One Panics, No One Loots, No One Goes Hungry
SHTF Plan ^ | 9/10/13 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 09/10/2013 4:01:38 PM PDT by Kartographer

SHTFplan Editor’s Note: There will be no panic. The government will be there to help when everything around you falls apart. Those really smart people on TV said so. This is the 21st century, and we’re way past really bad things happening.

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” ~ George Orwell

I was recently doing some research about the aftermath of some natural disasters that took place here in America. I was shocked to find that the articles I was looking for – ones that I had read in the past – were pretty hard to find, but articles refuting the sought-for pieces were rampant. Not just one event, but every single crisis aftermath that I looked up, had articles that were written after the fact stating in no uncertain terms that the hunger, chaos, and unrest never happened.

Apparently we, the preparedness community, are all wrong when it comes to the belief that after a disaster, chaos erupts and civic disorder is the rule of the day.

According to “experts” it never happens.

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To: jacquej

And old grandpas too, Jacque.


21 posted on 09/10/2013 5:48:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Hardastarboard

In the event of a SHTF event where I live, nothing bad is going to happen (to me) within about a three hundred yard radius.


You are either capable of staying up 24/7 or you have friends/family you completely trust that will be with you 24/7. I hope it’s the latter and best of luck to you.


22 posted on 09/10/2013 6:02:15 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Kartographer

Our regime isn’t merely going to bumble in a disaster, they’re planning to confiscate food and all preparedness supplies. Executive orders give them total control.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 6:05:39 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: yorkiemom

I have read there has been a big surge of 1984 purchases due to the NSA domestic spying news.


24 posted on 09/10/2013 6:15:03 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Varying stages, of course. If you look at videos of villagers in Africa looting an aid convoy, you’ll see one stage of the breakdown of society.

Free food, with people to hand it out, yet people still fight for it.

The madness of crowds is a documented phenomenon.

Now, when the violence becomes severe enough that soldiers and police abandon the aid convoys in order to be back home protecting their own families, then you get the next level.


25 posted on 09/10/2013 6:21:24 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: yarddog
My parents could have gotten through just about anything. They both grew up under harsh conditions during the depression but they both died years ago at an old age..

I have the same story line. But I would add that my parents could get through just about anything with the mutual support of neighbors, friends and relatives. My parent's generation knew the value of cooperation and community. They didn't need "community organizers".

26 posted on 09/10/2013 6:23:31 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: yarddog

But you can bet if the government knows you are a prepper they might be coming to you to accuse you of being a “hoarder” in a disaster.

That is reason one not to tell anyone.


27 posted on 09/10/2013 6:32:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Kartographer
Yes, how can we forget that when Katrina struck, the good citizens of New Orleans didn't turn to wild, indiscriminate lootng?
Other than taking a bottle of life-giving water, or baby formula for dying babies, they showed remarkable restraint and respect for property.

/s


28 posted on 09/10/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: Travis McGee

I wonder just how food is grown in NYC?

lol


29 posted on 09/10/2013 6:38:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Mold and mildew?


30 posted on 09/10/2013 6:40:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Southack

I think our cities will go to about level nine in a week after no food.


31 posted on 09/10/2013 6:44:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: yorkiemom
"Not just one event, but every single crisis aftermath that I looked up, had articles that were written after the fact stating in no uncertain terms that the hunger, chaos, and unrest never happened."

There are many FReepers that think that there were none of these things either, just look at this thread.
32 posted on 09/10/2013 6:44:53 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Travis McGee

yuck


33 posted on 09/10/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Senator_Blutarski

It was a different world. My Mother grew up on a huge farm in the Florida panhandle. The fact that they were wealthy didn’t mean a thing. She was one of 12 children and the youngest Daughter.

The oldest two girls helped their Mother but the rest along with the boys worked in the fields. Mother really knew what hard work was about.

My Father’s family were very prominent citizens but had little money. He was one of nine children and often had to be the substitute Father as Granddaddy was always away serving in the legislature or teaching at normal school etc.

Anyway they both came out of the depression but really they would have had about the same life if the depression had never hit. The only difference being that Granddaddy would probably have been paid better.

One thing I simply can’t get over is how really brave and tough our combat veterans of WWII were. Just this afternoon I came across a picture of a bridge across the Roer River near Julich, (I think that was the name), Germany.

I did some internet searches on those two names and eventually came across a u tube 12 minute long video of the fighting around there. The film had been taken by the signal corps and those camera guys were right in the midst of it.

They first showed the Combat Engineers along with Infantry crossing the river in near dark conditions. There wasn’t a lot of opposition but one boat full of soldier capsized. Other boats managed to save most of them.

The Germans pretty much left them alone until they completed a treadway bridge then they opened up with artillery and machine guns. The little treadway bridge was destroyed over and over but they finally had gotten enough Infantry and Engineers across to clear the opposite shore.

Each time the bridge would be destroyed the engineers just went about their business picking up their wounded and just letting the dead lie on the bridge until they had time.

They then started a heavy ponton bridge only a few hundred yards away. By this time the engineers fighting with the infantry were recalled to work only on bridges and they were no longer getting fire except long range infantry.

The picture I have of Daddy and his engineer battalion shows the bridge completed. The far side of the river shows all buildings destroyed. There are two Sherman tanks crossing and still quite a few engineers checking the bridge over.

That was some really fierce fighting. The German POWs looked like they had seen Hell. Blank faces, 1000 mile stare etc.

During the part of the fighting where they were crossing the tread-way bridge under fire I think every one of them deserved a high medal.

I really think that generation had been toughened to the point that they just did their job, and kept going until they were killed or completed it.


34 posted on 09/10/2013 6:50:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Travis McGee

I think that we agree that over some short period of time the stores will be looted first, then the aid trucks, and then roving mobs and individual renegades will begin pillaging house to house.

In Rio today, the rich already refuse to drive Ferraris because they’d be instant crime targets. Extrapolating, anyone with the appearance of having access to food is going to get mobbed/mugged/raped/extorted.

I’m not certain how long that goes on. If it gets cold then there are going to be house fires, of course.

...but if a city runs out of food altogether at every level, do the looters stay and slug it out over nothing or do they rove outward?

Mobs are funny beasts with their own “intelligence.”

If they rove outward, do they go house to house across yards, or do they follow streets and highways?

Do foodless mobs remain together after their first night of sleep, or do they break up?

Do they keep a consistent direction or do they meander or backtrack any?


35 posted on 09/10/2013 6:53:42 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
They rove outward, in droves. This is the lesson grasshoppers teach us when they morph into flying warrior locusts after their population densities increase beyond the local carrying capacity.

As well as the lesson lemmings teach us, etc. Even if half of a city's population dies inside the city limits, millions will be strong enough to walk 100+ miles drinking ditch water, lusting for the food and water you are "hoarding."

"Trapping Feral Pigs and other Parables of Modern Life." (FR thread.)

36 posted on 09/10/2013 7:05:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GeronL

Haven’t you heard about all the wonderful organic rooftop farms they have? Even raising free range chickens in Brooklyn.


37 posted on 09/10/2013 7:32:57 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: volunbeer
You are either capable of staying up 24/7

Good point. It's easy to forget that there are 24 hours in a day.

38 posted on 09/10/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Travis McGee

Sneaky. ;-)


39 posted on 09/10/2013 7:53:30 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Anyone remember Sneaky Pete? He used to post here but got so fed up with the Rinos on here that he left and vowed to never come back.

If he had just waited a few months, FR got rid of those monitors and the forum is far better now.

Does anyone know where he posts now?


40 posted on 09/10/2013 7:57:45 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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