Skip to comments.The dangers of going gluten-free
Posted on 09/12/2013 5:35:47 PM PDT by rickmichaels
The first time Margaret Dron organized the Gluten Free Expo early last year, it was inside the gymnasium of a small community centre in east Vancouver. She had recruited one volunteer, two speakers, 38 vendors and expected 500 attendees. There was no entrance feeinstead, people were to bring gluten-free goods for the local food bank; three boxes were set aside for the collection. Six hours later, more than 3,000 people had turned out, and the volunteer had to call a one-tonne truck to pick up the donations. In one Sunday afternoon, Dron realized, there is some serious potential here. So I quit everything I had, got an extension on my mortgage, and just dove in. Since then, it has blown up.
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I get there are people who may have an issue.......very few.
The hysteria is boring and annoying.
Gluten free....no milk....no meat....no bread...and everyone is overweight and diabetes is off the wall.
More whole milk, real butter, real cheddar cheese and regular bread for me, thanks.
I have a theory about that: I don't watch much TV but when I do I DVR what I want to see. Still, FF'ing through the commercials it seems like every other ad is for food, whether it is for a restaurant or something available in a supermarket, so many food ads - and you know the food never looks in the store or restaurant like it does on TV! And the ads repeat themselves every ten minutes. Just watching the ads blip on by quickly makes me hungry.
That's my theory.
Should I tweet Bloomberg and he can make the ads go away? (/s)....
I’ve list 45lbs on a gluten free diet . I used to live on caffeine to get thru the day. Now I have tons of energy. I eat some processed gf foods but the diet has actually prompted me to eat more fruits nd veggies than ever.
The change for me was to totally eradicate any man-made / genetically processed foods from his diet. So, even though I laud Campbell's and Kellogg's for going gluten free, for us, that's not our problem. The genetically modified soy that is added to cereals and breads is more deadly to Mr. Peel than wheat gluten.
As I said before..........
there maybe an issue for some people (very few)........
the hysteria is over blown and boring
(ok I may not have said boring)
I love gluten. Its a valuable protein that has supported a big piece of humanity for centuries. This hysteria reminds me of the big flap about MSG which, by the way, is found naturally in every piece of meat or fish you’ve ever eaten
I figure the best I can do for my kids is the old axiom "moderation in all things" and lots of physical activity. Hey, it's more than my parents did for me!
Tell us more about the diet that you found to work.
I do avoid milk fat because of the antibiotics which are added to milk, which tend to settle in the fat. Almond milk tastes better anyway.
IMHO, the problem isn't real food; it's the manufactured stuff that people consume instead.
If you are going to stop eating gluten you should take thiamine supplements.
The reason they began putting wheat into everything was to counter thiamine deficiencies in this country, particularly in the south.
Antibiotics added to milk ...? Huh? We were dairy farmers for years and if cows needed medication we strictly followed withdrawal times ... and used test kits to double check.
BECAUSE ... if we shipped “hot” milk with antibiotic residue and it contaminated a whole semi load ... we paid for the tanker load of milk.
Not something we took lightly. We were just average run-of-the-mill farmers ... all our neighbors were likewise leery of causing such a problem.
I know you weren’t posting to me - but I’ve lost 19 pounds on Atkins over the last month. The science behind it is well reviewed, and has helped millions lose weight as well as keep it off.
The carbohydrates we consume are typically sugar or flour products, but one of the worst offenders is fruit juice.
Saturated fats themselves are actually easily digested and processed by our bodies - not stored as fat tissue as a carb rich diet. Meat. Butter. Hard cheese. LOTS of vegetables. NO bread, rice, potatoes, etc.
I don’t have any interest in my gluten intake, but I point out to people that spend money on gluten free stuff that you can go to an Asian grocery and by mountains of rice & rice noodles for chump change and they are gluten free. Yeah I know you can buy glutenous rice, but you gotta look for that.
I use both because I happen to like them. And they store very well for prepping...cheaply. A word to the wise.....
I have never bought low-fat anything, except by accident once or twice.
I like real mayonnaise. I have always bought real butter. Nothing but whole milk.
Good food is a pleasure. No. I am not fat . ( not that there's anything wrong with that)
What is gluten anyway? All I know is, if it says gluten free, I ignore it.
And they got gluten free beer...
More whole RAW milk...not pastuerized...otherwise known as REAL MILK...and yes to the real butter, cheese and bread (in moderation)
True story (condensed version). I’m 62 YO and in fairly good health although at 228 I was a tad overweight. So last spring I started riding my bicycle, walking, eating high protein meals with lots of veggies. By August of 2012 I was down to 198 and feeling great. One morning in mid August I awoke with searing pain in the ball of my right foot. I went to the VA and was diagnosed with acute gout. They gave me a shot and a 30 day prescription of Indomethacin. Three months later I start experiencing tingling, numbness, burning, or pain in my hands, a month later it progressed to my toes and then over the next 4 months progressed to within 2” of my ankle. All the while I was going to the VA for all kinds of tests & x-rays. Two months ago they sent me to a specialist at the VA in Cleveland. I was diagnosed with (and I am not a diabetic). The prognosis was permanent & irreversible damage to the nerves. And if that wasn’t bad enough, I was told it was from the Indomethacin that was prescribed for the gout. I was told that there was medications for coping with it but they too had bad side effects.
I went home disheartened but started doing some online research and on the third day I came across an article by a Chicago University. They did a study on 215 patients with non- diabetic Peripheral Neuropathy and had great results with 47 of them by doing 5 things.
(1) Totally glutin-free diet (gluten is a neuro-toxin)
(2) Taking vitamin B-12
(3) Taking vitamin B-6
(4) Taking Acetyl L-Carnitine
(5) Taking Alpha Lipoic Acid
So I tried it, and after 1 week I was ready to give up as I had noticed no difference. About day 9 I told my wife she better pick me up some med. for my athletes foot as they were burning. Later I looked at them and they looked fine. Then it hit me, that I had feelings in my toes that I hadn’t had in over 6 months. That was 2 months ago and my hands are 100% back to normal and my feet are 80%+ back to normal. I did experiment a couple of weeks ago and had some bread, and for the next 3 days I experienced numbness and tingling again in my feet.
Gluten free products are a Godsend for me. Some are nasty and others are great. You have to read the labels on everything though as they sneak wheat, rye, & barley products into many products.
This is not a recommendation just a personal experience that worked for me. Your mileage my vary.
Some links I’ve found
I think you're mixed up. Beriberi is the deficiency disease for thiamine (B1), and is most often caused by people eating rice and not much else. Never been much of a problem in US.
Pellagra is the deficiency disease for niacin (B3) and is most common among people who eat corn (that hasn't been nixtamalized) and not much else, which used to be pretty common in the American South.
I seriously doubt anybody in America today has such a restricted diet that pellagra is a serious issue. Unless they decide to.
Now it was a crazy night here in Tarrytown, NY, I mean there was thunder and lightning and torrential rains and it's quite muggy outside and the crickets are chirping, chirping, chirping.
Peanuts...are they gluten free? So I'm in my hotel room right now watching the game and surfing this here Free Republic and eating a back of salt-free roasted peanuts. I have to shell them as I eat them so I'm making a bit of a mess in my hotel room. Going to have to leave a larger than normal housekeeping tip on the table tomorrow morning.
I had all kinds of test to find it. Took a couple months of tests. Turns out I had symptoms for years and just thought nothing of them because they changed with where my body put the gluten.
Glad you found out it was the gluten. I don't wish the nerve pain on anyone.
me too. Hands and feet. I feel great and lighter when I don't eat gluten too.
Thanks, I forgot to mention one other big plus. For 3 years I have been suffering with Carpal Tunnel which I attributed to hours on the computer and my bicycle riding, (I do 30 to 50 mile bike rides). With this gluten-free diet and the supplements,the Carpal Tunnel has disappeared.
found this in the Gluten Free society. I was surprised, I learned something new. They are saying Carpel Tunnel may also be caused by gluten.
Headaches, Depression, Nerve Damage, and Seizures. What They All Have in Common
In one study, 70% of gluten intolerant patients had social phobias. Depression was found in 52%. These are neurological manifestations of the disease, or are related to the disease, and they are not the only ones either.
Italian researchers found that 22.5% of the patients with gluten intolerance had headaches, depression, epilepsy, & nerve entrapment syndromes such as carpal tunnel syndrome, and peripheral neuropathy.
The immune system was clearly involved in about 42% of the patients, as antibody reactivity to neural(nerve) antigens was detected. Interestingly, those who had antibodies to neural antigens did not necessarily have neurological problems. This indicates that these problems may take awhile to manifest.
Bless you and go sit in the hot tub for a half an hour to do penance. Is it Oktoberfest time already, geesss....?
neuropathy is a touchy subject.
having high blood pressure and diabetes can add some interesting twitches to the equation,, from foot numbness to random hot spots of throbbing and sensations, none too present.. they can come and go.. most of mine are left foot or leg..
Diet can help a lot.. so can exercise believe it or not.. I’m still working on both.. Good luck to you!
Our research has produced different findings. You are welcome to yours.
Watch Dr. Oz....he'll have you in the store buying all kinds of crap...crap you didn't need before.
After not eating breakfast for almost 70 years, I thought I would do better if I had oatmeal and a banana in the morning. Gosh darn if I didn't gain weight. I stopped that.
I weigh the same as I did when I was 17...and I'm 70.
What do all the newbie yogurt freaks think yogurt is made from?
So the challenge became how to make cauliflower interesting - especially for breakfast. Well, I created a cauliflower purée which I use as an additive to practically everything. A few tablespoons in scrambled eggs, for example, makes a rather filling dish, and because cauliflower is rather bland, does not alter the expected taste.
After a time, we experimented bringing back the foods we had temporarily banned, and were met with many unexpected upsets. The biggest thing I'm finding is soy in the strangest places - after a little research I found that 95% of soy sold in the US is genetically altered. There is soy in a can of Starkist tuna!! Normally, tuna does not send his numbers up, but Starkist tuna does... I'm finding brands that I once trusted for years, I can no longer do so.
It's been a crazy road - right now, he's been without insulin for 50 days. And we're learning things about foods and how he reacts to them now that he is off insulin. I take his blood sugars a min of 4 times a day (sometimes more). Right now, he's sitting on a daily blood sugar average of 126. It wasn't too long ago, when he was much, much higher.
no meat. you better check that one again. check out the milk too.
there's celiac disease and ther's 'leaky gut" = gluten intolerance, that has the same symptoms and is debilitating. I could cite you case studies from just my family alone.
There are millions who suffer from leaky gut and go undiagnosed by most doctors.
A naturopathic doctor is likely to diagnose.
I could also suggest you do some real research before you decide you know it all - but I wouldn't want the facts to confuse you.
lol! Nice rubbing it in! Now I am hungry.
I wouldn’t call it a valuable protein. It is relatively cheap to produce in mass quantities, but as proteins go it is far inferior to animal proteins. The real value in wheat was that it provided a labor-intensive (think slave labor, or serf labor) form of bulk calories.
I went gluten free 2 years ago due to chronic bowel irritation. I found after six weeks that it did nothing for the irritation. BUT what did happen is my constant runny or stuffy nose cleared up and the 4 or more major flu-like allergy bouts per year I was suffering never happened again. Oh, and goodbye to 30 pounds of flab, thank you very much. Probably in major part by switching from fried foods to salads with no croutons, but at 51 years old I’ve never been healthier.
As for the irritation, apple pectin and Fibercon with every meal got it under control. Likely too much bile and no gall bladder since 1997.
I also have a 68 year old friend who would likely be dead now if she hadn’t tried the Whole30 program. Within two months after she started a basic paleo diet, she dropped 28 pounds, got her blood pressure and diabetes under control. 10 months later she is now lighter than she was when she got married 50 years ago and is feeling great.
Diet makes a huge difference, we just need to find out what works on an individual basis. And stay away from junk food!
I’m so happy that you figured out how to get to where your body could take care of itself. God bless you.
Thanks, same to you.
For years I had severe headaches & diarrhea, which in hindsight was related to celiac disease and not stress, smoking, coffee, like I was told many times. I’m now retired (no stress), stopped smoking 12 years ago. But you can have my coffee cup when you pry it from my cold, dead, caffeinated hands. LOL
As I said before..........
there maybe an issue for some people (very few)........
the hysteria is over blown and boring
(ok I may not have said boring)
And repeating this 3 times enhances your point?
I stand by my statement, the people who are effected are few compared to the population at large.....
the hysteria is boring.
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