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Dead Tree OR Electrons - What are you reading? [Sat. Vanity]
Self | 09/21/13 | Self

Posted on 09/21/2013 6:53:41 AM PDT by SES1066

I have always been a reader and one of my snobbish instincts has been to shun people who do not read. Houses without books or magazines leave me cold. Yet now I realize that I have not bought a dead tree book in months and I have hit that Amazon link "Tell the publisher" many many times!

On my iPad I have more than 240 books plus several Bible versions and multiple periodicals. Now I find myself refreshing my mind about a particular passage in a book in minutes instead of almost never. Additionally, I am privileged to be able to audit Professor Donald Kagan's Yale course on Ancient Greece.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: amazon; kindle; nook; pages; paper; periodicals; reading
So how are my fellow FReepers finding this sea-change in life? At one time I would never be found without at least a paperback or several magazines wherever I went. Now, with my electronics, I can read, listen to music and self-entertain with the best of them.

HOWEVER that is a danger in and of itself, is it not? When we self-isolate from our fellows, are we risking fellowship and interaction not taken? Many of us mourn the "Good Old Days" of when people sat on the porch in the evening and were neighborly! How much worse is this isolating electronics than the former villans of radio and TV that killed the above 'tradition?

1 posted on 09/21/2013 6:53:41 AM PDT by SES1066
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To: SES1066

At Winter’s End—Robert Silverberg

My 37th dead tree this year.


2 posted on 09/21/2013 6:56:59 AM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: SES1066

Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design


3 posted on 09/21/2013 6:59:10 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: SES1066
Yet now I realize that I have not bought a dead tree book in months ...

That's me too. I'm all in for reading on my iPad. My latest book and one that I can certainly recommend:

Mr. Penumbra's 24-Hour Bookstore: A Novel


4 posted on 09/21/2013 7:00:43 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: SES1066
At a neighbor's recent garage sale, one couple with two pre-teens in tow asked the price of some books. When it was pointed out that it was only an old, incomplete, supermarket encyclopedia, he replied, "Yeah, the kids can find anything on the computer.....but there's something about opening a book..."
5 posted on 09/21/2013 7:06:53 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: SES1066

I prefer dead tree reading. I’m in the library a minimum of once a month, but now with winter on its way, that will become more like 2-3 times a month.


6 posted on 09/21/2013 7:08:10 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: SES1066

I am currently reading “War & Peace” in the “dead tree version”.

My nightly Bible readings are also dead tree style.

I Love the weight of the book in my hands, the texture of the pages, the smell of the oxidizing paper and cardboard, and in the case of the Bible, the aroma and tactile pleasure of the pliable leather and gold tipped pages of onion-skin that caress my fingers as I turn the pages. It is like playing the real guitar instead of a “Guitar Hero” Midi controller.

Reading, for me, is a totally sensual experience! LOL!


7 posted on 09/21/2013 7:08:46 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: SES1066

a household of bibliophiles here

We moved recently and took only one bed room and no family room furniture and it was still a 25,000 lb. move.

Didn’t break down and do electronic for a long time, but in ‘09 I decided that between the air travel and always wanting five books minimum with me, that was the way to buy SOME of my purchases. Plus if you read by the pool or on a boat dock, e-readers are great.

Certain books require the physical item itself. Reference, of course, and books to be referred to later such as a tome on the bard’s histories.

I ended up spending a career in construction and as a youngster I told myself, well maybe I will build the largest book store in town. Sure enough, twenty some years ago I built the first Borders Books when the first started to leave their university store Michigan market.

Of course, selling out ruined them and eventually I got a Barnes and Noble discount card. The wife spoke to their corporate office one time and found out what we had spent as logged on that card and it was obscene — we have few other vices.


8 posted on 09/21/2013 7:11:27 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.)
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To: SES1066

I am suspicious of a book that can update (revise) itself every time I turn it on. I want my books to stay the same, always. Trees grow back. No harm done.


9 posted on 09/21/2013 7:12:56 AM PDT by The Public Eye
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To: SES1066

For me it’s dead trees and electrons. Reading “A Thread of Grace” in the electron version, and a handful in the dead tree version.


10 posted on 09/21/2013 7:15:42 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: SES1066

Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader: North Korea and the Kim Dynasty


11 posted on 09/21/2013 7:15:53 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: SES1066

Just finished the 11th “Dresden Files” novel on my iPad.


12 posted on 09/21/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SES1066

Boks on taep for the illetr, iliter, folks how cant reed.


13 posted on 09/21/2013 7:23:39 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: SES1066; Salvation
Interesting. You just made me realize that although we have two Bibles in the house, we haven't read them in years. Salvation posts the USCC readings every day, and we read them here.

5.56mm

14 posted on 09/21/2013 7:27:39 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: SES1066
Most of my reading the past few years has been on a Kindle, the 3g version that can download anywhere. I like the one hand hold and operation.

When I got to the cliff hanger ending of Enemies Foreign and Domestic late one night, the other two books of the trilogy were on my Kindle two minutes later.

I still have hundreds of paper books and lots of magazines. I am sold on the Kindle.

15 posted on 09/21/2013 7:31:03 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: SES1066
I'm perusing botany field guides now all the time. Sometimes my field guides don't include a new forb I may stumble upon, so I'm forced to turn to the Internet for identification help. But it's not the same.

Nothing beats a full-color field guide held in the hand.

16 posted on 09/21/2013 7:31:45 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: SES1066
I choose dead trees... the only exceptions being texts so old and/or obscure that I have to settle for the electron substitute.

Right now, in the likely order I will read them:

Cathedral, Forge and Waterwheel, by Frances and Joseph Gies
Thomas Telford, by LTC Rolt

Although somewhat mathematically dyslexic, I have always liked things mechanical; pre-20th Century engineering and manufacturing techniques fascinate me. I checked out a copy of Rolt's A Short History of Machine Tools (which was removed from my public library; they needed more room for the free Wi-Fi loafer's lounge and the ever-expanding Black Empowerment section) and was hooked; I have since purchased a number of his books, which I enjoy immensely. He and Dorothy Hartley (author of Made in England, etc) are two people whose writing styles fit me like a pair of comfortable shoes.

Mr. niteowl77

17 posted on 09/21/2013 7:40:07 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: SES1066

Reading paper books is kind of annoying now. I’m reading a Chronicles of Narnia book to my son that I got off the shelf, I would rather read it on my Nexus but I’m too cheap to buy it again.


18 posted on 09/21/2013 7:45:05 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: left that other site

War And Peace was a good book, but I had to put it down two times to read two different books to change things up.


19 posted on 09/21/2013 7:46:54 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: SES1066

All dead tree here, I have no e-reader I have no intent of ever getting an e-reader. I get pleasure from books above their content. I love walking into a room full of books, both ones that are already mine and ones that CAN be mine for some amount of cash. I love touching books, I love the smell of books, I love knowing books are there. And I like to read them.

And being an anti-social person I like the isolation, it means less people are hassling me trying to get me to engage in their group.


20 posted on 09/21/2013 7:52:14 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: SES1066

“I have always been a reader and one of my snobbish instincts has been to shun people who do not read.”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/20000.wav


21 posted on 09/21/2013 7:57:09 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SES1066

Dead trees for me, although I really do need to get an e-reader for when I travel. Any recommendations, Kindle, Nook, other? Currently finishing (today) “A Feast For Crows” - George R.R. Martin book 4 of The Game of Thrones series.


22 posted on 09/21/2013 8:27:39 AM PDT by jjr153 (Never Forget 9/11)
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To: SES1066

I have been reading mostly digital for the last 3-4 years. We have two iPads and a Asus Transformer but the device I use to read is my 5” Samsung phone, very crisp screen, screen big enough to read but small enough that it is the device I have on my person when I have time to read.

I have read hundreds of books on it and the phone I had before it.


23 posted on 09/21/2013 8:28:41 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: SES1066

I still read both. My son gave me a beautifully-made edition of “The Border Trilogy” by Cormac McCarthy, and it is a pleasure to hold and look at. I like Kindle for access to old, out-of-print books that I can get for free or only a few bucks. I also like it for its convenience. There are no bookstores around here anymore, so if I want a hard copy of a book, I have to wait for an Amazon order. With Kindle, if a book or a certain author comes to mind, I can look up the books and have them right away. It is also handy for while I’m sitting at the mechanic’s or the doctor’s waiting room — I don’t have to decide before I leave what I am going to read, and I can switch to something else if the wait is long. And, when I sit on the porch to read, I don’t have the annoyance of wind blowing the pages or having to worry about losing the light when dusk comes.

A book on Kindle is a book. I don’t find it any more isolating than any other book. It is some of the other applications that may discourage interaction with others.

I don’t care for magazines on Kindle.


24 posted on 09/21/2013 8:55:01 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: discostu

I have a houseful of books. I like to underline and write notes in the margin. E-readers allow me to do that, but not so easily. Still, the physical books take up too much space. If someone came out with a gizmo where you throw a book in a hopper and a digitized file came out the other end, I’d use it and get rid of most of my books. You can make files by scanning, but that would take me forever. What I want is a mechinical system to turn the pages for me.


25 posted on 09/21/2013 9:01:33 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: jjr153

I am waiting for book six in the dead tree format.


26 posted on 09/21/2013 9:16:41 AM PDT by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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To: SES1066

Both. It depends where I am, and which I feel like reading. I’ve got 3 books on the go right now, 2 on the e-reader, and one dead tree.


27 posted on 09/21/2013 9:24:32 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Sawdring

Oh Yes...I am doing that too!


28 posted on 09/21/2013 9:24:37 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: SES1066

Free downloads of books out of copyright in various formats.

www.gutenberg.org


29 posted on 09/21/2013 9:34:03 AM PDT by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: niteowl77
Be sure to get yourself a set of "Ingenious Mechanisms for Designers and Inventors." My Grandfather, an outstanding engineer and machinist, had a set in his basement workshop in the late 50s and early 60s (the books were only 30 years old at that time). I used to spend hours going through those books. They are a real treat.


30 posted on 09/21/2013 9:50:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SES1066

My dead tree right now is Room 1219. The Life Of Fatty Arbuckle, The Mysterious Death of Virginia Rappe, And The Scandal That Changed Hollywood.


31 posted on 09/21/2013 9:58:06 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: SES1066

St. Francis of Assisi by G. K. Chesterton


32 posted on 09/21/2013 10:06:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SES1066

Always the dead tree version......go out and plant a tree.


33 posted on 09/21/2013 10:09:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BenLurkin
Hardcover or paperback, almost all used from the hundreds of book sellers on Amazon. I usually get the books for $1 to $5 plus $4 shipping...a real bargain. My wife reads her iPad ebooks at night now, but I can't let go of the old habit of holding a book in my hands.

Many of the books in my "pending" pile are from FR Reading Threads; I find the most wonderful recommendations on these reading threads! Keep 'em coming, folks.

Currently reading "The Virginian: A Horseman of the Plains" by Owen Wister. This 1902 book was the prototype of all Western novels that followed. Mr. Wister is a great story-teller and there are numerous hilarious subplots.

34 posted on 09/21/2013 10:15:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SES1066

It’s paper for me, except for current events. Then, of course, it’s FreeRepublic. I would be reading a lot more books if not for FreeRepublic.

Here’s my favorite of recently read books:

Darwin’s Doubt by Stephen C. Meyer


35 posted on 09/21/2013 10:39:03 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: SES1066

The problem with dead trees is they can drive you out of your house and bankrupt you very quickly. One seven shelf bookcase, 7 feet tall by 2 feet wide from Office Depot costs about $285.00. It holds about 140 books. There are now four in my living room at a total cost of a little less than $1,200 and there’s no more wall spac for any more. They can hold a total of 560 DTBs (Dead Tree Books). OTOH a single $150.00 Kindle holds 1,100 electronic books and can access and additional infinite number in the Amazon cloud. If it’s an iPad or similar advanced device it can do an infinity of additional tasks.


36 posted on 09/21/2013 10:42:52 AM PDT by libstripper (] ws)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Be sure to get yourself a set of "Ingenious Mechanisms for Designers and Inventors."

Thanks for the tip! That looks interesting.

Mr. niteowl77

37 posted on 09/21/2013 11:20:14 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: niteowl77

Expensive, but you can immerse yourself for days in the mechanical wonders. I still remember learning about Geneva Mechanisms in the book. All that is gone now, of course, replaced with electronic control of motion.


38 posted on 09/21/2013 11:22:58 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: libstripper
If it’s an iPad or similar advanced device it can do an infinity of additional tasks.

Not the least is keeping up with FR late at night or first thing in the AM!

New one to the tech minded. My Brother is a quad and in July a subcutaneous abscess suddenly manifested that required him to be in bed rest for all but a couple hours of the day. Unfortunately, it wasn't till the end of August that I discovered that the iPad had several apps for 'virtual machine' control of the desktop computers. Not to wish misfortune upon any of you, but this technology is so very great for those of us who cannot handle things normally. This is the great promise of technology, how it enables those who otherwise cannot!

39 posted on 09/21/2013 11:30:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: SES1066

40 posted on 09/21/2013 11:34:47 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; niteowl77
I still remember learning about Geneva Mechanisms in the book.

Just as some of the other responders have discussed the intimate feel of holding a book, similarly is the feel of fine machinery. A while back I indulged myself in buying one of the finest pieces of excellent machining that I believe exists; the Curta Calculator. I have not regretted this rather unnecessary purchase as every so often I exercise my mind while 'feeling' the sensuous synchronization of fine gearing. An amazing piece of machinery with an equally amazing history.

41 posted on 09/21/2013 11:39:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (To expect courteous government is insanity!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I prefer actual books. Just another way in which I don’t belong in the world anymore.

Right now I’m re-reading by beat up old copy of David G. Chandler’s Campaigns of Napoleon. Got it for Christmas when I was 12 years old and finished it by the end of the following summer vacation. Paying more attention to the political aspects of the Corsican’s career this time through.


42 posted on 09/21/2013 11:55:10 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemet of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SES1066; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Uh, which one? ;’)


43 posted on 09/21/2013 12:00:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Don W
both. i have books all over the house, always have 1 with me but also have a NOOK and use it to test drive books in store to see if i want to buy them. always have library and inter library books in house. some i find really cheap electronically and it's nice to look up words while reading but, ignoring cost, i prefer a book in my hand. i also have a dumb phone, use FB just to check on family back east. don't text or twitter and wish most of the world, especially the federalis, would just leave me alone.
44 posted on 09/21/2013 12:29:23 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: SES1066

This is the darndest thing.

I picked up some books at a used book sale a couple of weeks ago. A couple of days ago, I started reading one I THOUGHT was by Kurt Vonnegut. Just now, I looked at it and noticed it was NOT by him. For 101 pages, I thought I was reading Kurt Vonnegut. Geez.

It’s by Kim Wozencraft. Her first novel called “Rush.”

Very well written for a first novel.


45 posted on 09/21/2013 12:39:35 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: SES1066

The Screwtape Letters


46 posted on 09/21/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: SES1066

All the books at your fingertips until the power goes out.

And I have some photographic memory recall. Thumbing through a book, I can often (but not always) find a historical passage or quote I want to cite.
There are word searches in digital media I know, but I don’t file things in my head that way.

Being able to go to google and search for something isn’t the same as knowing it yourself and having the recall. I reference the books for FR and elsewhere to provide exact wording vs. my memory recall.

I just finished a book on the mafia, MCA, the music business, the justice department, the IRS, and LA courts.

Not sure what I’ll pick up next. I’ve got far more reading “to tackle” so I’m not looking at buying something right now.


47 posted on 09/21/2013 1:05:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: SES1066

Dead Tree.

I have a Kindle, and it’s still in the box. Was a Christmas present 2012.


48 posted on 09/21/2013 8:47:33 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SES1066

Jack Vance’s Planet of Adventure. The best classic lasers and swords planetary sci-fi ever written, all with the unique Jack Vance take on it. Actual book, a whopping big collection with all the books in the series. I might have to go electronic eventually to get some of the harder to find stuff from Vance.

Freegards


49 posted on 09/21/2013 8:56:16 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

Ghosts of the Broads by Charles Sampson. The author not only has collected many very old ghost stories of England’s Norfolk coast area but wrote them in incredibly historical and entertaining way.

The stories are hundreds of years old and often capture the medieval tales that otherwise would be forgotten. Ancient Saxon battles, ships of pirates floating in phosphorescence, lady of the lake phenomena, Roman battles, an ancient religious ceremony repeated every year in ghostly haze for whoever is sensitive enough to ‘see’...much more.

Very entertaining. All tales sworn to be true.


50 posted on 11/17/2013 11:26:24 AM PST by Beowulf9
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