Posted on 09/30/2013 2:09:58 AM PDT by goodn'mad
When and if the Republicans fight on conservative principles, they win. Ah, but there is the rub. Newt Gingrich beat former House Speaker, Jim Wright, like a rented mule. He didn't let up. House Post Office scandal, using his position to sell blank books etc. Made a contract with America. Gingrich received a lot of grief from the naysayers but the end result was the Republicans took the House for the 1st time in 40 years. Kept the House until the Republicans sounded like Democrat lite, forgot about the pledge with America, and then lost the House. Bush the Elder beat Dukakis when he let Lee Atwater run his campaign. Atwater took the battle to Dukakis. Didn't let up. Wrapped the Willie Horton mess around his neck. Then Bush reneged on his pledge, "Read my lips, no new taxes." He lost. I'm afraid the Pubbies are a lost cause. They won't unite. They won't stick up for one another. They won't hold to conservative principles. They want to be liked by the DC crowd i.e. the MSM and the Demon crats. And....they keep losing. Get a grip----the DC crowd nor MSM will ever like you. When get gets to got, they'll vote for Democrats everytime. They will never vote for you. Obama was probably the most "beatable" candidate the Republicans will ever run against. He gave more ammunition than anyone we will likely see again. I've never seen anyone snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like they do. Okay...long rant. I've decided that I'll never again vote for the lesser of the two evils. I'll hold to conservative principles and vote for candidates who will fight for those principles. I'm through voting against someone like I've done the last two presidential elections. The Republicans aren't getting the message. When they lose, they get it. Sad but true. Grrrrrh!
BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS!
Now...did we need all that rif raf for that?
And good men are in Congress, how many of them will buck the NSA blackmail machine?
What about Ted Cruz? I know the MSM will try to “Palinize” him. I just hope he sticks to his guns.
Our standard bearers have been RINOs since Reagan. What do you expect?
Either Bush? -RINO.
Dole? -RINO.
McCain? -hard core RINO. Maybe more a stealth democrat.
Romney? -Now come on! An east coast elitist who as governor passed assault weapons ban, Obamacare lite, and raised taxes; RINO, RINO, RINO!!!!!
Now look at what the Dems had as their leaders; progressively more hard core leftists at each election, until we see them elect a Communist. At least they are unified, and it proves you have to motivate and inspire your base. Republicans have watered down their base until nobody cares and we don’t even get the same numbers to vote in 2012 as we did in 2008, which would have removed Obama.
Going libertarian has the inherent danger of splitting the conservative ticket, but I am getting tired of compromising my principles for what has been up until now a vote for the lesser of two evils.
The Republicans are in danger of becoming a sideline party, replacing libertarians IMHO.
I know I am at that point.
Makes sense to me.
You are reading assumptions into my assertions that are not there, and also missing a major point:
First, I never said it was brilliant GOP strategy - it is simply the fact that when the conservatives dominate the message, the GOP wins - when the establishment dominates the message, the GOP normally loses. (some elections its sort of in the middle...).
Now, I also reject the notion that Democrat mishaps and mismanagement are unrelated. Part of the conservative message is that big gov leads to mishaps and mismanagement BY DEFINITION, so those are necessarily part and parcel of every conservative campaign.
I’ve done far more than “just bitch about it” my friend. I’ve spend the best years of my life defending my country against Communism only to see one parked in the White House. I’ve given my hard earned dollars to candidates only to be lied to. I’ve gone out of my way to vote, even when I had to go to considerable trouble and expense to obtain absentee ballots. So you may want to reconsider when you point a finger at those who just “bitch about it.” The Republicans have shown time and again that they have no stomach to fight for the values we share. I’m sorry but I’ve been hoodwinked one too many times. No more.
Very encouraging. Thanks for that.
THEY KEEP TRYING TO PLEASE EVERY ONE, AND YOU CANNOT ALWAYS DO THAT. They have no core principals any more. And that is what we conservatives look for. And if you keep your word once elected.
Senator Cruz definitely has my attention. He sounds sincere. We shall see. He is the first that I’ve seen on the horizon for a long time who says what he means and means what he says (I hope).
Only the team that carries the ball has a chance to score. The Republicans don’t seem to even know what the ball is. They want to play checkers while the Democrats are playing chess. A pathetic bunch in general. It looks like they would eventually get a clue. I’m starting to wonder if they want to win...to dominate the discussion. At least the Democrats play to win. Republicans seem to be glad to be at the ballgame.
Our early state history right after independence proved that reliance on the virtue of elected officials was inadequate security.
Unlike Americans today, the framing generation learned quickly, and corrected those mistakes when they drafted the constitution.
The structure of congress must be changed, or all will be lost.
....well, that’s true of the GOP establishment, which runs the party at the moment. However, we’ve seen periods in the last few decades when the conservative Reagan wing of the party ran the show. It’s always a mix anyway.
By the way, looks like Ted Cruz’ “Leonidas and the 300” stand last week injected some testosterone into the House.....we’ll see....
Yes, and I am too. I was always opposed to a third party because I thought it would split the vote and assure Democratic victories. But now, I don’t think it matters much since the Republicans manage to squander every single opportunity when they get a majority. They try to out-Democrat the Democrats and end up demoralizing their base. We saw it in the last Presidential election. If we had thought much about it instead of listening to the likes of Karl Rove, Hannity, Limbaugh and others, we would have known that Romney didn’t stand the chance of a snowball in hell. I thought that anyone in their right mind would show up to vote against Obama. Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah. The biggest hand grenades are being lobbed against Cruz by Republicans. McCain, anyone? Will he never go away?
What organizational Republicans do not understand is that there are millions of votes to be had from patriotic, pro-freedom, pro-enterprise white people who would die before they voted for, let's say, former Congressman Charles (Charlie) Bass - he's just an example of an inherited wealth country-clubbing job exporting illegal importing Republican that I happen to know about. I'm sure there are more.
The brand is death for voters we need to reach. Time for a change.
Right you are! But what mystifies me is this, “Why can’t the Republicans see it?” No one can be that blind...or dumb.
You would be astonished I think at how there really is a bubble of perception that surrounds DC, where all these consultants and elected officials live. They really do not understand the country, and they are prisoners of their isolation.
Twelve years ago, the Dems running the city of York PA were proposing a 40% property tax increase to plug a $1.5 million deficit that happened because of their mismanagement. A bipartisan group formed to protest. Their were two Republicans running for office in that election cycle, one for mayor and one for city council. Most of this group was either Democrat of independent.
The two GOP candidates argued against us being critical of the administration. They were afraid of us being perceived as being negative. Both lost badly in the election. The Dem to GOP registration is about 3 to 1 in favor of the Dems in the city.
Two years later, I ran for city controller as a Republican. I was not shy about tying the city’s financial problems and high taxes and crime to the ruling gang, with whom my opponent was in tight. I lost, but only by 118 votes out of 3,500 cast, and I won every precinct that was not predominantly black or hispanic. I had little money, and the big money was supporting my opponent. I almost overcame those handicaps. Another thousand bucks for an advertising blitz, and I could have won.
IOW, we win when we stand up to the governing class, and for the taxpayers.
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