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Scientist Says New Research Proves 'Dogs Are People Too'
Pawnation ^ | 10-7-2013 | Kelli Bender

Posted on 10/07/2013 11:32:27 AM PDT by blam

Scientist Says New Research Proves 'Dogs Are People Too'

By Kelli Bender
Oct 7th 2013

Do you ever think that your dog knows exactly how you feel? It probably does. According to the Daily Mail U.K., Gregory Berns, a professor of neuroeconomics at Emory University, has discovered that dogs have emotions just like humans.

Through the use of MRI scans, Berns discovered that dogs and humans use the same part of their brains to feel. The professor started his research hoping to find out how a dog's brain works and what the animals think of humans.

In veterinary practices, dogs are put under an anesthetic to obtain an MRI so they don't become stressed by the procedure. For Berns' work, he needed his dog patients to be alert so he could observe their true brain functions. To overcome this obstacle, Berns and a dog trainer worked to teach the professor's dog to sit through an MRI simulator. After months of training and work with a real MRI machine, Berns and his dog were able to get the first maps of canine brain activity.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: dogs; pets
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1 posted on 10/07/2013 11:32:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Of course they are. In fact, several dogs I know are nicer than some people I know.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 11:34:20 AM PDT by Gefn (More Cowbell)
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To: blam
I'm sure the same can be said of cats, though to a lesser degree.

My cat almost jumps out of his skin to see me after I come home after a long trip.

3 posted on 10/07/2013 11:35:57 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: blam

"...yeah,mad scientist"

4 posted on 10/07/2013 11:37:31 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: blam

This will morph into another Democrat voter registration drive.

And why not? Any Democrat will tell you animals already have more rights than an unborn child.


5 posted on 10/07/2013 11:39:47 AM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: blam

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/83324032/

click the arrow to see the differences...*smiles*


6 posted on 10/07/2013 11:41:29 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: blam

I’ve seen times when two of my dogs showed real compassion, once for my father when he wss really down and once for me in the same kind of situation. I’ve also seen jealousy, just like human jealousy. No real question about whether they have human emotions; they do.


7 posted on 10/07/2013 11:42:48 AM PDT by libstripper (Asv)
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To: blam
Showing positive feelings like love and attachment could mean that dogs are as sentient as a human child. Berns hope to further these new findings and use them to expanding the rights of animals.

Great just what we need more Liberal stupidity in animorphizing animals.

Animals are not humans and you can not give animals human rights without lowering the value of human life.

Once you raise the value of animals to equate their worth to that of humans you have lowered the value of human life to that of an animal.

There is no way around it. If a dog’s life is worth the same as a human’s then a human life is worth no more than that of a dog.

8 posted on 10/07/2013 11:43:17 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: blam

Months of intense training, to have a dog sit still, proves dogs are people too. Hmm...
I’m sensing a nut bag here. And I am a dog lover, a dog is a dog, is a dog.


9 posted on 10/07/2013 11:43:32 AM PDT by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: blam

Until my Yorkie writes a book as good as The Great Gatsby, she’s still a mutt to me!


10 posted on 10/07/2013 11:48:04 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: blam

The more I am around people the more I prefer to be around my dogs.


11 posted on 10/07/2013 11:52:57 AM PDT by cork (Remember Bengazi!)
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To: vpintheak

A dog is a dog but a dog is not a wolf. I think all the thousands of years of domestication have bred many desirable traits and uses into dogs, including companionship, which would require some emotions to match ours.


12 posted on 10/07/2013 11:55:58 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: cork
"The more I am around people the more I prefer to be around my dogs."

One of the differences between my ex-wife and my dogs was that my dogs were happier to see me the later I got home at night.

13 posted on 10/07/2013 11:57:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: miss marmelstein

Well clearly, your Yorkie is just not drunk enough. But watch out f you have a iPad, there’s been a spate of Yorkies posting risque selfies to owners FB pages.

;>)


14 posted on 10/07/2013 11:58:22 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: blam

Some poor dog had to sit through months of MRI testing?


15 posted on 10/07/2013 12:02:58 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: blam

They discovered that dogs have emotions? Wow! modern science never ceases to amaze. /s


16 posted on 10/07/2013 12:03:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: blam
Its pretty obvious that, depending on your point of view, Man and Dog either co-evolved, or were Made for Each Other. I don't think one would be here w/o the other.

Which is also the reason, IHMO, that cultures that reject Dogs, are inhuman.

17 posted on 10/07/2013 12:08:33 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: fwdude

It is also true that baby humans in the womb are fully capable of sentiment and sentient thought. Imagine the horror experienced by those tens of millions who have been butchered in their mother’s womb.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 12:12:42 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: blam

As goofy as this is (regarding their purpose), I admit to often wondering something like, “What is she (my dog) thinking?”

My dog tells on herself if she’s misbehaved while we were gone. How does she remember that she stole thawing meat out of the sink and ate it all after the fact. Why does she behave as she has been trained when we are around but is sneaky when we are not? She knows not to get on the furniture and never does while we are there. But she doesn’t realize that the warm spot and a bit of dog hair is evidence. She jumps off as soon as she hears us coming. She doesn’t beg and would never counter cruze while we were home, but knows when no-one is watching (like a 4 or 5 year old).

I’ve seen signs of problem solving and logic too. She moved a table once right in front of us to get her ball that was pinned next to the couch. I told her to move it back but she just looked at me. She is allowed to sleep on our kids beds (only). When the kids are sick, she hangs out pretty close and will stay in bed with them.

So, I would be interested in learning something truly scientific about their 1) memory 2) logic/problem solving ability 3) emotionality and how the three are connected. Just not with an angle to “get pets more rights”. She’s still a dog.


19 posted on 10/07/2013 12:15:28 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: Pontiac
..................then a human life is worth no more than that of a dog.

Which would be a step up for some people.........

20 posted on 10/07/2013 12:15:53 PM PDT by varon ( para bellum, Impeach Obama)
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To: Tenacious 1
So, I would be interested in learning something truly scientific about their 1) memory 2) logic/problem solving ability 3) emotionality and how the three are connected. Just not with an angle to “get pets more rights”. She’s still a dog.

I agree. there's no doubt dogs can think and solve problems like humans. In many ways, they are more observant than humans in that they can tell by our body language that we're going to take them for a walk or go water the flowers. Our dog may not know what we're spelling, but he is hip to the fact that if we're spelling it, we're probably discussing something that interests him. He's still not a human (though as others have said, I prefer his company to many humans).

21 posted on 10/07/2013 12:22:07 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Paradox
"Its pretty obvious that, depending on your point of view, Man and Dog either co-evolved, or were Made for Each Other. I don't think one would be here w/o the other. "

I read one anthropologist speculate that dogs may have done some training on us too.

Tests have shown that dogs recognize our 'signals' better and respond to them better than any of our close relative primates.

22 posted on 10/07/2013 12:22:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: libstripper
They don't have emotions,but they can feel emotions in people.
After you own a dog for awhile, they can sense your emotions. And since dogs offer unconditional love, they will comfort you when you are sad.
Dogs really are amazing.
23 posted on 10/07/2013 12:23:12 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: blam
Our dogs are definitely people.

Exceptionally stupid people, mind you, but people nonetheless. :)

24 posted on 10/07/2013 12:26:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Covenantor

I was wondering who was posting those!


25 posted on 10/07/2013 12:28:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: varon
I understand that you are being humorous but I can not see the humor in this.

This is just another statist strategy to diminish the value of human life in order to put all power in the hands of the state.

These researchers most likely believe that they are furthering the interest of animal safety and welfare but the opposite is true. By diminishing the status of humans they are diminishing the power of the individual.

In diminishing the power and rights of the individual they increase the power of the state. A state with ultimate power will decide who can have pets what can and must be done with pets what will be required of pet owners.

Eventually having a pet will become so expensive because of the government requirements to owning a pet that only the wealthiest persons will be able to afford a pet.

Consider the regulations already in place for persons that keep animals for professional entertainment purposes (for example magicians); DOA onsite inspections, Emergency plans, special requirements for nutrition and storage of food.

Eventually these requirements will be mandatory for all pet owners.

26 posted on 10/07/2013 12:34:33 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: blam
"Scientist Says New Research Proves 'Dogs Are People Too"

Amazing, scientists think they are so smart but consider, dogs have know this for centuries.

Here is a pic of our four legged "people"

Hurley likes to build pillow fortresses...

27 posted on 10/07/2013 12:43:25 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Yorlik803
They don't have emotions,but they can feel emotions in people.

Hmmmm. Not sure. Dogs get excited. Dogs get scared. Dogs get angry/defensive....

Dogs have personalities for sure. The question is, are their emotions connected to their thoughts. A dog will never feel bad about biting someone. But they may feel bad about upsetting an owner who has trained them otherwise. A potty trained dog will hide when it has an accident in the house. It remembers that the last time this happened a certain nose got rubbed on the carpet. Their behavior could be connected to what they expect will happen. They are reminded because the smell is still in the house. So the behavior goes on for extended periods of time. But what about when my dog whines and cries when the kids are out playing and she can't go out. What about the excitement they show for a car ride? If someone asks my dog if she wants to go for a ride, she'll go nuts for a VERY long time until you at least put her in the car and drive around the court. Then she's satisfied. She doesn't care for how long it is.

I have seen "spontaneous" emotion and looked for links to training or conditioning. I watch for the difference because it fascinates me and my dog does some amazing things now and then.

28 posted on 10/07/2013 12:51:15 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: Pontiac

I like my dogs better than I like most people and yes, I’ll use whatever force necessary to defend and protect them.

I know for a fact that dogs have emotions and know and understand love.

When our GSD Max had bloat and we visited him after the surgery, I knew at that very moment, there was more to dogs than most people realize. He was on an emotional rollercoaster that to this day, I simply cannot describe to the fullest.


29 posted on 10/07/2013 12:51:21 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: blam
use them to expanding the rights of animals.

natural rights apply only to humans because only humans are rational animals and use reason as their means of survival.

30 posted on 10/07/2013 1:00:02 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: BCR #226
Don’t misunderstand me I love my pets. I love them more than my step kids (the pets have better manners).

But they are animals and if the house was on fire I had to make a choice between saving the step kids and saving the pets I would save the step kids no matter how worthless they are they are still human.

31 posted on 10/07/2013 1:02:45 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: blam

If we treat dogs as we would humans, the dogs will be unhappy and unhealthy. I like dogs, but there are special ways to relate with dogs and take care of them. Dogs are dogs. Cattle are cattle, and so on. Each animal has its needs and genetic protections against having various feelings of people.


32 posted on 10/07/2013 1:06:42 PM PDT by familyop
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To: blam

Human beings also have constitutional rights in the U.S.A., BTW. Animals don’t, although we shouldn’t be cruel to animals. In agriculture before the human decline began, we did best by giving the best care suited for the animals. The robberies have already begun against farmers and ranchers by way of new, un-American laws and pretenses about animal worship.


33 posted on 10/07/2013 1:13:36 PM PDT by familyop
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To: blam

While traveling in Britain, I stayed at a bed-and-breakfast which was owned by a small dog (you know that’s how they think). But this little mutt was listless because 5 days prior he had been right beside his much larger dog buddy when the larger dog was hit and killed by a car. The dog’s human pets said that they had been unable to rally his spirits. He performed his meet-and-greet functions with disinterest. I showered him with affection but the most he could do was place his jaw in my outstretched hand and sigh while relaxing his weight. He seemed to ‘need’ to communicate with people (which used to cheer him up?) or perhaps by then he was confused and didn’t know why he felt so bad but it certainly seemed like grief. His human pets said he was ordinarily the life of the party...


34 posted on 10/07/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: blam

Why does every thread about dogs have a handful of posters discussing abortion?

It’s a rhetorical question.


35 posted on 10/07/2013 1:29:40 PM PDT by dmz
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To: blam

You’ve all see the videos of the dogs going insanely happy crazy when their war veterans owners come home?

I get the same reaction when I come home from food shopping.

OF COURSE dogs have emotions.


36 posted on 10/07/2013 1:34:21 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Cold Heart; Standing Wolf; All

aaaaaAAAAAAHHHRRRLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo - - - -


37 posted on 10/07/2013 1:48:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: blam

We don’t need expensive research to prove that dogs can tune in to a person’s feelings.


38 posted on 10/07/2013 1:55:43 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: blam

My dogs are smarter than my friend Steve. This weekend we go camping and Saturday night he decides to sleep in my car. he uses the power passenger seat until the battery is drained (I figured this out last night). I go to start the car after everything is packed up and click...click...click. He plays dumb.

I’m not amused.


39 posted on 10/07/2013 1:58:19 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Pontiac

Once you raise the value of animals to equate their worth to that of humans you have lowered the value of human life to that of an animal.

(((
Yup, all part of the master plan.

Next up, human-canine marriage.


40 posted on 10/07/2013 2:04:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Tenacious 1

I agree with you that dogs — and cats — do show signs of problem solving. Dogs, based on my observations, also show many emotions similar to ours, which makes sense, as they are pack animals, and, therefore, must have some sense of social interaction.

But, as you say, they are just dogs and not on the same level as humans.

My cat is a sneaky counter surfer, too, by the way.


41 posted on 10/07/2013 2:11:09 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Tenacious 1

Dogs get excited. Dogs get scared. Dogs get angry/defensive....

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Don’t forget about jealousy. When my eldest grandson came along, my dog would try to get involved every time I was playing with the baby—nosing in between the two of us. Once the child started walking, the dog did not seem as concerned with my giving him attention. And when grandson #2 came along, we went through a similar situation. Now, he seems to be jealous of the 3rd grandson.

Recently, my sister was talking to our cat, and our dog put himself between them. At first, she thought it was a coincidence, but, then, she got him to do it a few more times. Too funny.


42 posted on 10/07/2013 2:23:15 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: blam
Research Proves 'Dogs Are People Too

Does this mean they have to have health insurance, or pay a penalty to the Obamanation if they don't?

43 posted on 10/07/2013 2:29:31 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: blam

‘Dogs Are People Too’

.
Bowow, bowow!

Will we now have legal Man/Dog marriage?


44 posted on 10/07/2013 2:40:48 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Pontiac
Once you raise the value of animals to equate their worth to that of humans you have lowered the value of human life to that of an animal.

To me, my dog is easily the equal in worth in comparison to just about all of the people I run across. We obviously do not agree.

45 posted on 10/07/2013 2:50:51 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Yorlik803

“They don’t have emotions”

I am convinced that they do. My wife says that when I leave town, the dogs mope about for two days. They are deliriously happy when I return. The female dog is insanely jealous when I pet the male dog; she barges in between us and demands to be petted stead. If I am not feeling well, the female puts on the saddest face and tries to snuggle with me.


46 posted on 10/07/2013 3:05:39 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Tenacious 1

A dog will never feel bad about biting someone
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Years ago we had 2 dogs. There was a favorite, coveted sleeping space on my husband’s side of the bed. It wouldn’t fit 2 dogs and the bigger one barely fit. The older beagle, being smaller, tended to hog it. He was a sweet dog, a rescue and had never shown aggression towards us. (bunnies were another story).

One night, I got tired of the Akita crying because the beagle was in *the* spot. I went to grab the beagle’s collar to take him out of there and he turned in a flash and did a single chomp onto my hand. As I was tending to it, my husband gave the dog a tongue lashing with frequent references to “You bit Mom!”. The dog went to a corner and hid. The next morning, the beagle actually crawled on his belly to me and started licking my feet. I think he knew he had crossed a major line in attacking a dominant pack member and was apologizing. I also think it was a hard-wired response.

When our present Akita was just a few months old, we took him out to a Farmer’s Market for some socializing. He was rambunctious and liked to jump on people and other dogs and was a generally clueless pup. We met a 2-year-old Saint Bernard. The Saint took one look at the pup and just let out a low short growl. Puppyboy immediately turned his back on the older, larger dog and sat without being told. I later learned this is dog behavior within the pack showing respect. Hardwired.

We may anthropomorphize things a bit.

OTOH, when we are all together in the evening, usually watching a video, my dog will look up at me with half-lidded eyes & a doggy smile and you just know that this is one of his *favorite things*.

They are fur people, IMO.


47 posted on 10/07/2013 3:15:23 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Yorlik803

Of course dogs have emotions. Their brains have the same parts ours do, and the parts if their brains that process emotions are structurally and biochemically the same as ours. Hence, they feel rage, grief, joy, jealousy, etc. just as we do.

The difference between dogs and humans—at least, some humans—is that we have a far more highly developed cortex, particularly in he prefrontal area. This is the part of the brain that (we hope!) imposes some control and direction and rationality over the animal emotions and desires we mammals all have in common.

Thus, acknowledging that dogs have emotions doesn’t put them up on the same level as humans or invest them with the same value as human beings.


48 posted on 10/07/2013 3:32:21 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Pontiac

Oh absolutely but don’t discount them as just animals. They’re far smarter than a mere cat.


49 posted on 10/07/2013 3:45:14 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: OldPossum
To me, my dog is easily the equal in worth in comparison to just about all of the people I run across. We obviously do not agree.

Sure there are a great many worthless people in this world and we all make individual judgments on their worth as we go through life, but those individual judgments is not what I am talking about.

What the author of this research is suggesting is legal rights for dogs. If he is successful in his quest to use his research to legally endow civil rights on dogs human beings will no longer be endowed with certain unalienable rights.

Human beings will no longer inhabit a special place in the legal universe. You and your dog will no longer have the same relationship that you do today because you will have the government dictating what that relationship will be.

A New Bedford Democrat has introduced a bill that would hand over the determination of what is and what is not proper and “acceptable” treatment of animals to private citizen PETA

The ‘animal personhood’ movement believes dolphins, great apes, and elephants deserve to be able to sue — and now it has a plaintiff.

50 posted on 10/07/2013 11:42:37 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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