Skip to comments.What’s so special about John Moses Browning?
Posted on 10/17/2013 1:05:37 PM PDT by virgil283
"Browning was not a degreed engineer, but he is, to date, the greatest firearms designer who has ever lived. Consider this: had Browning done nothing but the 1911, hed have a place in the top rank of gun designers, ever. But thats not all he did, by any means. If he had done nothing but the M1917 and M1919 machine guns, hed have a place in the top ranks of designers. If hed done nothing but the M2HB, a gun which will still be in widespread infantry service a century after its introduction, and its .50 siblings, hed be hailed as a genius. One runs out of superlatives describing Brownings career, with at least 80 firearms designed, almost 150 patents granted, and literally three-quarters of US sporting arms production in the year 1900 being Browning designs before his successes with automatic guns.......[ read it all - its very well writen]
(Excerpt) Read more at weaponsman.com ...
.....Jonathan Browning Cylinder Repeater. Image from a great article on Jonathan Browning by William C. Montgomery;
John Moses Browning - the patron saint of freedom, and self defense. Many great miracles have been worked in his name.
If traveling in the Salt Lake, Utah area take the time to drive north to Ogden, UT. The awesome Railroad and Browning Museum is located in the downtown area at the Railroad Station. The items in this outstanding museum are a sight to see.
Big deal...Thomas Edison was almost completely self-educated.
Browning was not a degreed engineer
Big deal...Thomas Edison was almost completely
The big deal is Browning did his own design work and was famous for coming up with and improving his own ideas.
Winchester and Colt manufactured Browning's designs. Browning established a strong working relationship with Fabrique Nationale in Herstal, Belgium. Browning designs were marketed in Europe, Asia, and South America under the FN logo and in North America under the Browning logo. Browning passes away in Herstal, Belgium, in 1926 while working on his last great pistol — the P35 Hi-Power.
That was his daddy’s rifle design. John Moses was good, but making that rifle at 3 years old might have been out of even his reach.
I went to the museum in Ogden once. There were some very old museum volunteer ladies watching the place. Way in the back was a WWI display with a 1917 and other goodies and a velvet rope in front of it. Shortly after I was there, someone walked in, leaned over, and plucked that fully operational belt fed machine gun off the display and walked out. I hope they upped their security after that.
Materials science had to be fairly rudimentary back then as well, but Browning designs are not known for blowing up.
I am proud to own three of his designs, two of them antiques by now.
Great short article on the genius!
I read a biography of him once. My favorite story was when he was a Mormon missionary in Georgia, I think. Back then they lived off the charity of others and sometimes there wasn’t much charity so he and his partner were looking pretty shabby. In a store window they saw a new Winchester that he had designed and sold before he went on his mission. He hadn’t seen the finished product so he asked the store owner if he could look at it. No. Get out of here, you bums.
Not meaning to insult Browning but did mean to point out the silly notion that a degree should be important to an inventor.
On that we can agree, many great inventors did not have degrees, just look at Tesla. No degrees and arguably one of the greatest inventors ever.
Obama's socialist enablers will invent a reason to denigrate his record of accomplishments.
The socialist agenda calls for discrediting America's founders and the founding documents, the founders religious, Americas leaders, Americas statesmen, and most of all, the Republican form of government guaranteed by the Constitution.
A Democracy is Obamas objective because laws can be ignored when the majority rules. In a Democracy, the majority also has the power to enforce laws than dont exist.
The Gospel According to John Moses Browming
Y’all best just bend one knee, and thank your lucky stars, when you mention THE NAME THAT SHOULD BE NAMED MUCH!
Aside from machine guns, heavy autonmatic rifles, and shotguns, where y’all think that most American icon, the G.I. 1911 .45ACP semiautomatic pistol, came from?
Where do you think the ‘other most used military semiautomatic pistol’, the Browning/FN Hi-Power (P35), got it’s start?
Through the writings of the late and great Stephen A. Camp, BHP guru, I own two of these beauties.
I used to shoot Junior NRA on Cape Cod/Otis AFB, in the 1960’s, shooting the 1911. Now, the recoil is just that, too much, so I dialed down to 9mm Parabellum, and the Browning Hi Power.
Browning was indeed a genius.
I'm sure that there are many, many more.
One not mentioned is one of my antiques: the Baby Browning. A nasty little thing in .25 ACP. I do not like shooting the thing, but it was a gift to my wife from her father and she cannot shoot it.
The biggest gun that Browning designed was the M4 (later M9) 37mm cannon. The M4 and M9 were installed on P-39 fighters ans the M9 on WW2 PT boats.
Browning demonstrated the M-1917 belt fed machine gun to the Army. Linking belt after belt, he fed ammunition to it, and it fired, and fired. He topped of the water jacket in between attaching belts. Eventually after 45 minutes of continuous fire, he had exhausted all the ammunition. No stoppages. Nicht, Zero, Nada.
He then pulled out a handkerchief and tied a blindfold over his eyes. He disassembled the gun blindfolded, putting each part on a table in front of the assembled officers, down to the last part. He then reassembed it blind folded and performed a function check. It is important for soldiers to be able to perform maintenance on machine guns in the dark, without lights.
He did it again a few months later, because some of the officers thought it might be a trick.
The Remington Rolling Block was offered from .22 up to 11.43mm. In 1898 in Cuba, there were a lot of them around.
Oops, a couple of typos. Should read “M1905” vice “M1805” pistols. Should be “and” vice “ans”. Blasted fumble fingers!
If you look at the safety lever on the Kalashnikov, you will see an heir to the Auto 5.
No arguing about it. Tesla is, was, and perhaps may always be the greatest human being inventor ever.
They STILL don’t understand some of the things he came up with in 1899.
No arguing about it. Tesla is, was, and perhaps may always be the greatest human being inventor ever.
They STILL dont understand some of the things he came up with in 1899.
They are still hiding some of the things he came up with.
It is a nightmare to tear down completely. No idea how he designed such an intricate mechanism back then. Hardest gun to assemble I ever came across. Beautifully fitted though.
That amazing “M-1917 blindfolded field stripping and reassembly” trick was also important for Marines, especially GySgt. John Basilone, on Guadalcanal, October 24 - 24, 1942. Seventh Marines, First Division. His Congressional Medal of Honor citation actually read “. . . contributed in large measure to the virtual annihilation of a Japanese regiment.” Those guys ran out of water, though, and so they refilled the water jackets of their guns with urine.
There is a funny story about Maxim and his gun in Russia. Maxim arrived in Russia with his gun to demonstrate to to a bunch of Czarist officers. While he was awaiting the demonstration date and his gun and belted ammunition to arrive at the site, he was shadowed by the Czar's secret police, the Okhrana.
When the demonstration day came, Maxim explained the operation of his gun to the Czar's officers who had no idea what an automatic machine gun was. These officers’ only exposure had been to the manually cranked Gatling (called Gorloff by the Russians). When Maxim explained about the cocking handle and how it cycled with the gun, one officer said he'd like to see a soldier move the handle at 660 rounds per minute!
Maxim inserted a belt, cocked the gun twice to index the belt and chamber a round. He then pushed the trigger bar and fired the whole belt of 300 rounds without touching the cocking handle — that continued flipping back and forth as the gun fired.
The Russian officers were absolutely dumbfounded by what they had witnessed. The recommendation was the Maxim be adopted in numbers for the Russian Army. The Maxim soldiered with the Russian Army from 1910 and into the 1950s before it was replaced by lighter and newer designs.
Don’t forget that his (Maxim’s) son had patents on some of the first suppressors.
That’s a good design. The hammer locks the breech block just before firing. Easy, yet effective!
Her gun had sat in her mother's drawer for decades and had to be completely disassembled for cleaning out the gunk. Getting sear springs and sears back together was insanely difficult.
A friend had a Mk1 but maybe never stripped it, never mentioned anything about it. But then, he was not a gun guy and maybe never was into cleaning things.
I read a different version of that story. I believe the rifle was the "High Wall" model, his first successful design. Browning and his brothers had made and sold a few in Utah before selling the design to Winchester. Anyhow, Browning convinced the store owner to let him examine the rifle. The store owner reluctantly agreed. After a few minutes of handling, the store owner commented that Browning seemed knowledgeable about the rifle. Browning replied, "I should be, I designed it". Then the store owner snatched away the rifle and showed who he believed to be a smartass kid the door.
Ahh, the PITA is getting that hammer strut where it belongs after you wiggle and twist the bolt stop/mainspring housing into place. Always a good time, I had to do it over the phone to my boss. Blargh...
That’s the story. I wish I could find that book again, it’s been years since I read it.
I liked the author’s description of the mountain outside Ogden where he test fired everything. The mountain put up with it all until he made the 37mm, then the mountain gave up and large parts started sliding downhill.
Johnathan was John Brownings father... also a fine gunsmith... you can visit his home/museum in Navou , Ill.
Just how many non-degreed or degreed people today would be able create the many designs or products?
John Moses Browning was a god and a patriot. I’m proud to say that at one time, back before a tragic boating accident, I owned several of his designs.
High quality and beautiful in their simplicity and reliability.
Lady Liberty owes a lot to JMB.
Happiness is a belt fed weapon. Especially if it was designed by Mr. Browning.
I don’t think so, my Great Uncle was Mission President in that area and I see no mention of this in our family lore.
See post 36 for independent verification of the story.
Yeah man. Bombs can be ‘’smart’’ but ‘’Ma Deuce’’ just need to tap you once and it’s game over.
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