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Self | 10-26-13 | self

Posted on 10/26/2013 8:00:20 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose

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To: octex

In my opinion he was going to spring to his feet all in one motion. You absolutely raise you shins off the ground to get momentum. Both palms were pressed flat on the ground in a press position, getting ready to push off.

Freegards


61 posted on 10/27/2013 8:29:34 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

They are paid to do their job. I had no answer because I did not know which umpire . . . which only means that there were two biased umps, not one. It makes no difference. But THEY were making a ruling and were not able to answer a simple question about the rule and just looked dumbfounded. Slight difference.


62 posted on 10/27/2013 9:03:12 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Figment

Agreed...even attempting the throw was a mistake. Trying to turn the DP in that situation was foolish.

The ESPN poll results on this are pretty interesting. Pretty much everyone outside of New England agrees with the umpires:

http://espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=mlb&pollId=4016429


63 posted on 10/27/2013 9:04:36 AM PDT by The Unknown Republican
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To: Figment

It was impossible for him to do so. Moreover, his legs did not impeded the runner’s baseline, nor were they involved in the runner’s stumble. The foot hit the hip, not the legs.


64 posted on 10/27/2013 9:05:49 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Perhaps we could change the rule to suit your desired outcome.


65 posted on 10/27/2013 9:44:16 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: MrChips
below the knees “strikes” for the SL pitchers, the opposite for the Sox

The home base strike zone calls bothered me much more than the call at the end, which cannot be contested successfully. Salty throwing too late to 3rd and missing, or the obstruction call, either one, the result would have been the same. Nice game, Cards.

All you Boston fans out there with me know the Red Sox were down in the 2004 series 3-0 and still won it. This is an excellent WS matchup - and fun to watch, no matter who wins.

66 posted on 10/27/2013 10:41:33 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Good idea. In the meantime, perhaps spirit of the law should trump letter of the law (although I still question adherence to the letter).


67 posted on 10/27/2013 12:54:29 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips; jy8z
The obstruction call was 100% correct. Ask anyone who saw it, and who is not biased.

Was was controversial, and where you should be spending your time, is why Workman batted when Napoli should have been the one standing in the batter's box.

68 posted on 10/27/2013 1:02:07 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: MrChips
Good idea.

How very liberal of you.

69 posted on 10/27/2013 2:53:40 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Well Cardinals got handed it to them tonight. Now if they want to win the World Series they’ll have to do in Boston.
They should have swept Boston in St. Louis.


70 posted on 10/27/2013 9:28:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

No, just human.


71 posted on 10/28/2013 11:08:13 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Cards blow another one. The misery ends next game. Sox will end up setting an all time record for striking out but still win the World Series. Go figure.


72 posted on 10/28/2013 8:51:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Well, Ortiz has gotten on base 10 of his last 11 bats. They had 9 hits tonight against good pitching. But their bats got them there, and if their bats were not so cold of late (against good pitching), the series would be over.


73 posted on 10/28/2013 9:41:05 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

You mean the Ortiz that is billed at 220 lbs. His gut weighs that much. Don’t like the Sox, never have. But a team that strikes out as many times as they have in the last two series and will probably still win the series, what in the hell is there to say. Karma I guess.


74 posted on 10/28/2013 10:27:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Why attack Ortiz personally? He’s a great hitter.


75 posted on 10/28/2013 10:50:01 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Because he loves to belittle other players and teams. He thinks he’s the second coming of Babe Ruth. And no one that plays as much as Ortiz should be classified a “designated hitter”. The “designated hitter” is supposed to only bat for the pitcher. How does Ortis bat as much as a regular player? He was also named in a juicing scandal, along with his buddy Manny Rimarez. He should play first base, where playing with the Twins he hit 58 home runs in 6 seasons. After the juicing “allegation”, he starts hitting them out of the ballpark, but only as “designated hitter”. Let’s see if the makes it to the Hall of Fame. The voters don’t like players that are not regular players, and only get in the game to hit.


76 posted on 10/29/2013 8:24:05 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I have never heard the Ortiz you characterize. He does bat for the pitcher. It’s the American League. He does play first base regularly; he’s just not the starter, although he often is in National League cities. Look, take your negativity elsewhere. Thanks.


77 posted on 10/29/2013 8:27:37 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: NKP_Vet

“Don’t like the Sox, never have.”


That says it all.

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78 posted on 10/29/2013 8:38:06 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: MrChips

Oh, I know players get better as they get older. Barry Bonds is living proof. And we know Bonds, Rimarez or Ortis never juiced. And I believe in the tooth fairy.

“Ahletes do not get better as they mature into their late 30’s,” said Shaughnessy. “Baseball has been peppered with performance-enhancing drugs for he last 20 years. The cheaters are always ahead of the testers. A number of players from the Dominican Republic have tested positive for steroids. Injuries to the Achilles’ tendon are consistent with steroid use. It is not natural for a guy to hit .426 out of the gate without the benefit of any spring training.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/david-ortiz-s-hot-start-raises-questions-about-steroid-use


79 posted on 10/29/2013 8:52:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

We live in a time where words spread like wildfire over social media, everything is taken at face-value without being critically consumed, and an accusation, with no prior evidence, can stick for a lifetime.

So can someone please tell me when it became okay for people to stop taking responsibility for their words? When did defamation become a common trend?

Twitter, Facebook, forums, and the rest of the internet have served as masks for the common citizen to commit, what we call in journalism, acts of libel and slander on a larger scale than ever before; acts the result in termination of employment for even your most esteemed writer.

Since the return of Alex Rodriguez, who admitted to steroid use during his tenure with the Texas Rangers from 2001-’03 and who’s name also appeared on the 2013 Biogenesis Scandal’s list of player tied to PED use, steroids have infiltrated America’s beloved game of baseball once again.

Names like Nelson Cruz, Ryan Braun, and Bartolo Colon have been run through the mud; and rightly so. Alex Rodriguez, the only player on the list appealing his suspension (211 games), has also faced a plethora of criticism for playing through the dastardly allegations.

What Rodriguez is doing, however, affects more than just what is set up to be a very interesting AL East pennant race, it’s affecting baseball’s culture as a whole.

Names like Braun and Cruz have already been swept under the rug. They’ve accepted their suspensions and, for the most part, have been completely forgotten in what has otherwise been a very successful season for baseball.

Between the Miguel Cabrera/Chris Davis home-run race, the Red Sox redemption season, and the emergence of teams like the Pittsburg Pirates and Kansas City Royals; Rodriguez still remains in the limelight as a black eye on a title belt worthy season.

Not only is his case stealing press time away from note worthy stories and players, it’s opened up an alley for free lance accusations across the league.

From Albert Pujols to Chris Davis, and to the most infuriating of all, David Ortiz, Yankee fans and baseball media alike have been forced to justify a season saving RBI machine by throwing others under the bus.

I attended Friday’s Red Sox Yankees game at Friday and to my dismay, the plethora of talk was not only centered around A-Rod’s return, but also around the rampant use of steroids throughout the MLB.

“It’s not that big a deal A-Rod is playing through this, the Yankees need an extra push for the pennant race anyways. David Ortiz used them at one point in his career.”

And this isn’t just an isolated event fueled by Rodriguez’s return either. It’s a growing phenomena spreading like cancer cells through every MLB stadium.

Ortiz’s name has been attached to countless “steroid” chants at every Major League Stadium. And this isn’t just the fan’s fault. It ultimately stems down from the mainstream media.

Earlier this season WGNU 920 radio host Jack Clark lost his job for accusing Albert Pujols, a name that has never been tied to steroid accusations, or PED use. Like I said, libel and slander, two forms of defamation in journalism, being practiced openly by today’s media.

And that leads me to my next point; when has David Ortiz ever tested positive for steroid use? When were the two terms PED use and Boston’s biggest slugger ever intertwined into a commonly accepted group of ideas?

So commonly accepted in fact, that the Boston Globe’s Dan Shaughnessy was allowed to openly accuse Ortiz of “juicing” after his hot start to the 2013 season.

When was a player not allowed to just be damn good at what he does?

david-ortizYes, Ortiz’s name appeared on a list of 104 players who tested positive for PED use back in 2003 in a story published in by the New York Times (2007). And yes, the New York Times also published a follow up story confirming that Ortiz was one of eight names on the list who did not test positive for actually “injectable” steroid use, but rather over the counter performance enhancing supplements; a supplement that the MLB has openly said was legal during its tests back in the 2003. But of course that story never got any attention.

David Ortiz, since coming to Boston, has been as consistent as they come. He’s, simply put, a damn good hitter. He’s always maintained solid numbers, while still maintaining his “big boned” form, maybe even shedding a couple pounds as he moves into the sun set of his lengthy career.

His best three seasons with the Sox, where he hit 40+ HRs and 130+ RBIs, came in ’04, ’05, and ’06, were also the prime of his career; 28, 29, and 30 years old. Very similar numbers to what Miguel Cabrera (30 years old) is doing currently. But no one’s ever accused him of using steroids.

Ortiz’s longevity also attests to his pure form of talent, as at 37 years old he’s still hitting .327 with 24 HRs and 78 RBIs with a little under a month and a half to play in the season.

Just as a point of reference, at 37 years old, a slightly inflated Barry Bonds hit .370 with 45 HRs and 110 RBIs. Now that’s a sign of a steroid use. What Ortiz is doing is simply a good hitter having a good season.

So before you start throwing out false accusations and tarnish an innocent man’s name, how about you forget you ever read a Dan Shaughnessy story and check your facts.

http://nesportsblog.com/2013/08/19/monday-rant-steroid-allegations-david-ortiz-and-piss-poor-journalism/


80 posted on 10/29/2013 9:01:02 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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