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Retired General: Some in Military Want to 'Take Out the President'
National Journal ^ | November 1, 2013 | Alex Seitz-Wald

Posted on 11/01/2013 2:14:13 PM PDT by don-o

A former top general and current executive at the Family Research Council says members of the military have considered staging a coup d'état against President, but will not because of civilian control of the military.

"People I've spoken to would like to see the military 'fulfill their constitutional duty and take out the president,' " retired Army Lt. Gen. William Boykin told World Net Daily, a website best known for pushing Obama "birther" conspiracy theories. "Our Constitution puts a civilian in charge of the military and as a result a coup would not be constitutional. You're not going to see a coup in the military."

"I talk to a lot of folks who don't support where Obama is taking the military, but in the military they can't say anything," Boykin said.

Boykin, an evangelical Christian who is now the executive vice president of the Family Research Council, was publicly repudiated by President Bush twice in 2003 for saying Muslims worship an "idol" and not "a real God." Last year, Boykin abruptly pulled out of appearing at a West Point ceremony after controversy erupted over the invitation. (Boykin has also said Islam "should not be protected under the First Amendment" and that there should be "no mosques in America" because "a mosque is an embassy for Islam and they recognize only a global caliphate.")

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: boykin; civilwar; coup; cw2; cwii; flagofficers; military; overthrow; rebellion
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Is it just me or is it getting hot out there?
1 posted on 11/01/2013 2:14:13 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

Stupid. That would be catastrophic.


2 posted on 11/01/2013 2:14:54 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: don-o

Wow! This is from National Journal not InfoWars. Shows you how close we are to dictatorville.


3 posted on 11/01/2013 2:16:28 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: don-o

Maybe he heard wrong. Sounds like they want to go out with the president.


4 posted on 11/01/2013 2:16:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: don-o

This is not something you talk about. You either DO IT or KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. There is no in-between. The general may find his bank account empty in the near future due to this.


5 posted on 11/01/2013 2:17:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: don-o
have considered staging a coup d'état against President

First, NJ should hire a copy editor.

6 posted on 11/01/2013 2:17:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Steely Tom

True - only if they stop at the President. The whole cockroach infestation at the White House needs a good fumigating. Then follow the slime trail back to Chicago.


7 posted on 11/01/2013 2:17:41 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: don-o

Well he’s “taking out” generals almost weekly.


8 posted on 11/01/2013 2:18:22 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: don-o

Ernst Rohm was plotting a coup.

We just did what was necessary.


9 posted on 11/01/2013 2:18:28 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nhwingut

And some in the military love the president. So what?


10 posted on 11/01/2013 2:19:03 PM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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To: Noumenon

Both houses and the judicial are enablers.


11 posted on 11/01/2013 2:19:47 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SpaceBar

So that’s the reason for the Night of The Long Knives?


12 posted on 11/01/2013 2:19:49 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: don-o

If they don’t do it in the military they’ll do it as part of a patriot militia. One or the other.


13 posted on 11/01/2013 2:19:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: don-o
Is it just me or is it getting hot out there?

Indeed!

14 posted on 11/01/2013 2:20:02 PM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: SpaceBar

There were more than one set of officer folks who plotted coups against Hitler.


15 posted on 11/01/2013 2:21:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: don-o

That is why it’s called World Nut Daily...


16 posted on 11/01/2013 2:21:18 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

That was the after-the-fact cover story.


17 posted on 11/01/2013 2:21:37 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: rcofdayton

It was utterly stupid of him to make such a statement in public. In fact, he’s gotta be crazy.


18 posted on 11/01/2013 2:22:19 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Vaquero

Effectively, yes.

Limp Dick/No Balls Boner will just sit there and watch and cry while Obama does what he does.

Roberts still hasn’t crawled out of Obama’s colon since he was strongarmed to change his vote on Obamacare’s constitutionality.


19 posted on 11/01/2013 2:22:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: huckfillary

Or he could be laying groundwork for a false flag/ White House Reichstag fire.


20 posted on 11/01/2013 2:23:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Vaquero

This is probably why he’s doing that.

Rumblings have probably bubbled up to the president to the tune of “don’t try it”.


21 posted on 11/01/2013 2:24:58 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nhwingut
They’re referencing a comment by Boykin that appeared in WND, where he said that the notion of a military coup is out of the question.
Boykin specifically said that because of the civilian-military relationship, he did not see any prospect for a “coup” coming from the military ranks.

People I’ve spoken to would like to see the military ‘fulfill their constitutional duty and take out the president,’” Boykin said. “Our Constitution puts a civilian in charge of the military and as a result a coup would not be constitutional. You’re not going to see a coup in the military.” …
Seitz-Wald took “(p)eople” and turned it into “(m)embers of the military” . . . talk about mendacity.
22 posted on 11/01/2013 2:25:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Vaquero

He could massacre a troop of girl scouts on the White House lawn during the Easter Egg roll, butcher them, barbecue them and serve them to the participants and he still wouldn’t be impeached. And if you criticized him about it, the press would say “it’s a black thing” and accuse you of being a racist tea party rethuglican for bringing it up while licking their fingers and asking Michelle what kind of spice rub they’re using and ask for more macaroni & cheese and a refill of their kool-aid.


23 posted on 11/01/2013 2:26:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: don-o

Dis-information to see reacts and how .. .
you know that


25 posted on 11/01/2013 2:26:51 PM PDT by uddaudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: don-o

The trouble for Democrats in perpetually ignoring and dimenishing the Constitution is primarily the danger that others may do the same.


26 posted on 11/01/2013 2:27:15 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, they are totally twisting what he said.


27 posted on 11/01/2013 2:27:55 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: don-o

28 posted on 11/01/2013 2:27:53 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: don-o

Wow. Awful close to sedition.....

Not that I disagree. But, boy....I will bet he is walking that back pretty damned fast or he will find himself recalled—and fired.


29 posted on 11/01/2013 2:28:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: don-o

THAT is going to leave a mark.


30 posted on 11/01/2013 2:28:34 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Cruz, Palin and Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Hundreds of attempts on ze fuhrer’s life were made. Only the high profile one(s) are popularized in film. While driving to his bavarian digs, hitler was driving and his chauffer was in the passenger seat. A man jumped out at a tight mountain turn and killed the passenger thinking it was AH himself. Hitler escaped unharmed. Weird stuff.


31 posted on 11/01/2013 2:28:45 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: don-o
We take out the president every 4 years (or have the opportunity to). We need to continue down that path and avoid the latin america style politics.

/johnny

32 posted on 11/01/2013 2:29:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He could massacre a troop of girl scouts on the White House lawn during the Easter Egg roll, butcher them, barbecue them and serve them to the participants and he still wouldn’t be impeached. And if you criticized him about it, the press would say “it’s a black thing” and accuse you of being a racist tea party rethuglican for bringing it up while licking their fingers and asking Michelle what kind of spice rub they’re using and ask for more macaroni & cheese and a refill of their kool-aid.

I shared the same sentiment on FR dozens of times, but I've never said it as well as you just did. I just might steal it.

33 posted on 11/01/2013 2:30:09 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: don-o

Uhm.....

Yuh friggin nut.

You don’t talk about Shiite like this openly.


34 posted on 11/01/2013 2:30:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Who knows what kind of social pressure was brought to bear on Jelly Fish Spine Roberts in D.C. (District of Criminals). He might have been threatened with not receiving invitations to high brow luncheons and cocktail soirees. Only a man of extraordinary courage and principles could resist such a painful dilemma.
35 posted on 11/01/2013 2:31:24 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Vendome

I’m sure he had a very good reason to speak about it openly.


36 posted on 11/01/2013 2:31:51 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: don-o

Obama is purging the military of those who can see his agenda is to totally wreck America.

Stay safe, FRiends.


37 posted on 11/01/2013 2:33:09 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Too much hanky-panky with the boyfriends.


38 posted on 11/01/2013 2:33:30 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: don-o

Where’s Chris Kyle? I think someONE was afraid of him and had him ‘retired’ too.


39 posted on 11/01/2013 2:34:02 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Olog-hai

40 posted on 11/01/2013 2:34:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
Never mind Seitz-Wald’s links to RightWingWatch as though they were unbiased sources. At least RWW didn’t try to alter Boykin’s words, which summarize Shariah correctly:
We need to realize that Islam itself is not just a religion—it is a totalitarian way of life. It’s a legal system, sharia law; it’s a financial system; it’s a moral code; it’s a political system; it’s a military system. It should not be protected under the First Amendment, particularly given that those following the dictates of the Koran are under an obligation to destroy our Constitution and replace it with sharia law.

41 posted on 11/01/2013 2:34:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nhwingut

Sure does.


42 posted on 11/01/2013 2:34:35 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. Machiavelli’s ‘The Prince.’ (In this case, the princess.)


43 posted on 11/01/2013 2:36:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Steely Tom

Really? Not if it was in defense of an illegal coup by someone who lied to get elected...then lied to get his socialist law enacted.


44 posted on 11/01/2013 2:37:02 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: nhwingut
Wow! This is from National Journal not InfoWars. Shows you how close we are to dictatorville.

Excerpted from the WND......

45 posted on 11/01/2013 2:37:04 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Make sure you have removed the kleenex from your pockets before doing laundry)
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To: MrB

He has a real large minority of “brothers” in the military. Don’t know what to make of them.


46 posted on 11/01/2013 2:37:09 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: don-o

National Journal is a steaming pile. It purposely crafts the most deceptively inflammatory, anti-conservative merde it can find, and shoves it right out there.


47 posted on 11/01/2013 2:38:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Vermont Lt

Sedition is legal. That’s why we can’t prosecute American communists.


48 posted on 11/01/2013 2:39:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: fabian
Really? Not if it was in defense of an illegal coup by someone who lied to get elected...then lied to get his socialist law enacted.

He lied, yes. Maybe the biggest campaign lie in American history.

As to the "illegal coup" thing, you're dreaming.

49 posted on 11/01/2013 2:43:21 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SpaceBar

Geez that guy should have known you don’t leave witnesses if you’re going to kill Hitler. Note - kill EVERYONE in Hitler’s car.


50 posted on 11/01/2013 2:43:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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