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Posted on 11/08/2013 8:12:27 PM PST by Smellin Salt

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To: Windflier

Well for me it’s about the natural world here being a wilderness boy at heart and a mountain biker for my sanity

My dear wife is a lib as are all my friends and I have just learned that it , politics, doesn’t really matter a hill of beans for the most part

What does matter is character. Honor and diligence

I got my sons in Boy Scouts and am basically taking it over and making it
Just like it was in the 20s. Where boys are boys. Period

Actually got the wife to acqueiese to guns and everything ; )

She was happy when my sux year old outshot a bunch of 10 yr olds

Hee hee


61 posted on 11/09/2013 7:33:31 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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To: Truthoverpower
My dear wife is a lib as are all my friends and I have just learned that it , politics, doesn’t really matter a hill of beans for the most part

That's an unusual orientation for a Freeper. Allow me to share my perspective on that.

Politics is merely what results when two or more opposing cultural ideologies compete in the arena of government. It's the ideologies that are important. Not the partisan political alignments.

Free Republic is a gathering of people whose cultural orientation is conservative. We may be very engaged and interested with partisan politics, but that's actually secondary to who we are as people. Our ideals are primary. They're the glue that binds us together.

You may have noticed in your short time here that liberals are expressly unwelcome at FR. It's because we find their ideology to be reprehensible and destructive to those things we hold most dear. For the most part, liberals are fundamentally opposed to the precepts and principles laid down in our founding documents.

In that wise, they're opposed to our very existence as a people. Most of us elect not to break bread with people who reject the fundamental, timeless concepts that gave birth to the freest, most successful nation in world history. People who embrace an ideology that leads to slavery and ruin for the individual and the nation.

So yes, politics does matter. It matters a great deal.

62 posted on 11/09/2013 9:54:29 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: fone

Oh, I think most of us realized decades ago that the Democrat party was slowly moving toward some form of ideology that resembled Communism.

For me, the realization that they were headed in that direction, came during Carter’s term in office, although it still took me a while to realize that they were never going to stop ratcheting left until they achieved a fundamental and complete transformation into full blown Socialists, untethered to our founding precepts, our history, or even our country.

As a young twenty-something Democrat, I’d voted for Carter out of a knee jerk allegiance to the party I’d been raised with. After his one and only term in office, I was left baffled and disillusioned the party, and politics in general. When he ran against Reagan in 1980, I didn’t even bother to vote.

Over the next eight years, I witnessed the great Ronaldus Magnus bring this country out of the doldrums, and reignite something in our people that I hadn’t seen since I was a small child. I had to admit that everyone seemed to be doing better, and that there seemed to be a sure hand at the wheel, which provided a deep sense of security and stability. My lot, and the lot of everyone I knew improved during his time in office.

Still, I remained fundamentally uneducated about the true ideological differences between the major parties, so I didn’t run right out and register as a Republican. I didn’t bother to vote in 1988, and was perfectly happy for Reagan’s VP to (hopefully) keep the country on the same comforting course.

In 1992, I had decided that there was no way I could give my vote to the Democrat nominee. I was thoroughly unimpressed with Bill Clinton, but still wasn’t quite ready to vote for the (gasp!) Republican. Ross Perot was speaking my language, and I threw right in with him. When he later backed out of the campaign, only to try to get back in it, I was done with him too. I wound up sitting out the presidential election yet again.

The next several years of the Bubba & Hildy show caused me to withdraw permanently from the Democrat party. I became very open to a new direction. Sometime during Clinton’s second term, I found talk radio, and thus began my emancipation and eventual reunion with my true political brethren.


63 posted on 11/09/2013 10:52:00 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
a knee jerk allegiance to the party I’d been raised with

Therein lies hope as well. I live in an entrenched D area - unions and the like (GM still has a plant open nearby). So many vote D because that's how they were raised. The old mantra "democrats for the working people, republicans for the rich ..." has been the challenge. Perhaps now, the hard-working, decent, and America-loving democrats (there are many) will begin to examine the policies not so much the parties.

I hope I never lose hope.

64 posted on 11/09/2013 11:14:55 AM PST by fone (God save us.)
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To: Windflier
P.S. --> your tag line rocks!

;^)

65 posted on 11/09/2013 11:19:44 AM PST by fone (God save us.)
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To: Junk Silver

The Bush family was and is the epitome of Eastern Liberal Elitist RINO’S.
They are all Liberals witness the Bills they pushed and signed into Law.


66 posted on 11/09/2013 11:21:51 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: fone
P.S. --> your tag line rocks!

Thank you. Rush even stole it a time or two :-)

67 posted on 11/09/2013 11:43:19 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: willibeaux
It started with the first public schools in the mid-1800s to early 1900s! It only took one to three generations of K-12, single-payer, and socialist entitlement schooling to give the nation Franklin D. Roosevelt. Hey! If the voting mob can give a kid tuition-free schooling, why not use that power to get **lots** of free stuff?

Also....At their best government socialist-entitlement schooling was never more than generically and lukewarmly Protestant. The Progs have **always** pushed for greater and greater secularization and by the 60’s it was merely a nod to God in the morning. After that it was a purely godless worldview.

I have to give a lot credit to the Marxist Progs. They are a persistent lot.

68 posted on 11/09/2013 11:57:59 AM PST by wintertime
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To: ifinnegan
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Little attention is given to this verse, but it has a lot of answers for questions that are rarely asked.

69 posted on 11/09/2013 3:13:45 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: yldstrk; Junk Silver
you are right about Reagan

wrong about Bush

Silver is right on both issues, you are just wrong on one.

New World Order

70 posted on 11/09/2013 5:01:31 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: yldstrk; Junk Silver
I am too tired to do so but I will say all you Bush haters sound like Democrats to me

I am too tired to do so but I will say all you Bush lovers sound like Low Information Voters to me.

71 posted on 11/09/2013 5:05:07 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: imardmd1; Smellin Salt
You can’t do anything about the situation unless you can have an effect on the educational system from the

School Consolidation was just as damaging as removal of school prayer. Neighborhood control was given up to the bureaucratic district commands, where monumental building are erected for the elitists that rule over you.

72 posted on 11/09/2013 6:30:07 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Smellin Salt
All those children who grow up NOT learning English like a native will be spending their working days making gran Macs and washing dishes.

The foreign children who melt into America and speak with no accent or little accent will be able to go to college successfully, get a degree, get a job that pays a decent wage and live a good life.

It doesn't TAKE that much in this country. Mexicans are ready, will and able to work...and they do. But without ingles they are dead meat who can't compete with the English speakers, readers and writers.

SO SIMPLE!! And SO MUCH easier to learn a foreign language when young. Stupid, near-sighted, selfish parenting.

I railed at the kids who wouldn't learn. I spoke better Spanish than they did and they knew it. Their parents have too much hold on them. They won't learn. SO, we have a build-in group of people to wash toilets and dishes, clean houses and mop floors. Oh well.

73 posted on 11/09/2013 9:06:57 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: itsahoot
School Consolidation was just as damaging as removal of school prayer.

You are absolutely right, and I had that in mind when I composed my comment. It would be like allocating to the federal executive branch to appoint the governors of the states, rather than have them elected by those governed. An irresistible consolidation of power, thus answered only by a dictator as The Government. Which is what we have getting very close to the end result of yessing legislators and judges.

74 posted on 11/09/2013 10:39:03 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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