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Just had a major DUH! moment
vanity | 11/10/13 | GunsAndBibles

Posted on 11/10/2013 8:53:33 AM PST by GunsAndBibles

Was given a new Android phone (loaded with Google programs) and realized I'm always being monitored, even when the phone is OFF. Looking for a signal blocking case/enclosure, similar to Faraday cage. Now off to the range, trying a new batch of .223 using IMR4227 and 62gr. SS109. Thanks for your input.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: eavesdropping
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1 posted on 11/10/2013 8:53:33 AM PST by GunsAndBibles
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To: GunsAndBibles

You forgot your keys.


2 posted on 11/10/2013 8:57:14 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: GunsAndBibles

Put the phone inside an old yard sale microwave or the government drones will know the location of your favorite shooting spot.


3 posted on 11/10/2013 8:58:44 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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4 posted on 11/10/2013 9:02:03 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Depending on the model, take the battery out when not in use. Unfortunately for me, my awesome HTC One is sealed up tight. D:


5 posted on 11/10/2013 9:02:49 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: GunsAndBibles

Wrapping in tinfoil, I hear, works.


6 posted on 11/10/2013 9:03:12 AM PST by JustSurrounded (And for Christmas this year we get amnesty for the locust people.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Just took the grandkids shooting so far up in the mountains that my Droid had no signal. Can they track me without a signal?


7 posted on 11/10/2013 9:04:32 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

Did your gps work?


8 posted on 11/10/2013 9:06:10 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: umgud
Just took the grandkids shooting so far up in the mountains that my Droid had no signal. Can they track me without a signal?

In Soviet America, you don't find signal, signal find you.

9 posted on 11/10/2013 9:07:35 AM PST by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: JustSurrounded
Works well for Viking Kitties and wannabes.


10 posted on 11/10/2013 9:07:44 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: GunsAndBibles
Here is one:

Mobile Phone Blocking Bag

11 posted on 11/10/2013 9:08:49 AM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself- Mark Twain)
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To: miliantnutcase

I also have the HTC. I considered pulling the battery, but would prefer a quick fix, like a shielded enclosure.


12 posted on 11/10/2013 9:09:18 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Recall that your phone is not usable when it’s wrapped up.

I have something neat that takes a lot of the guess work out. I have a smartphone and a used 10 minute pre-paid kid’s phone. (Not a smartphone).

I use Google Voice, and Google voice allows a single phone number to ring multiple phones. When I’m at work, and need the smartphone capability, I do. When not, I store the phone in a “faraday cage”. (Microwave)

When it comes to a “faraday cage” not just a screen will work. Because your car is a faraday cage, technically, and you see that your phone works just fine within it.


13 posted on 11/10/2013 9:11:44 AM PST by Celerity
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To: umgud

My phone based GPS position locator works in the wilderness, even without cell reception. I’ve always wondered how it was capable of doing this.


14 posted on 11/10/2013 9:12:32 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Starting soon, you’ll need to show ID to buy tinfoil...


15 posted on 11/10/2013 9:13:05 AM PST by RickGee
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To: TheCipher

That thing won’t work. I gave this goof the right answer, but he was mean to me in a private freepmail. I could care less about what happens to him now.


16 posted on 11/10/2013 9:15:09 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: TheCipher

Thanks for the link


17 posted on 11/10/2013 9:15:34 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

In a faraday cage your phone will not be a phone.

Just shoot it.


18 posted on 11/10/2013 9:17:08 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: The KG9 Kid

Aw, did I hurt your little feelings. Thin-skinned wise-ass.


19 posted on 11/10/2013 9:18:08 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

You mad bro? Shouldn’t you be in church.


20 posted on 11/10/2013 9:19:12 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: GunsAndBibles
Any conductor enclosure will function as a Faraday Cage. The signal attenuates exponentially, so the conducting layer can be very thin. A cigar box wrapped in Aluminum foil will do. If you want something kinda pretty that you can keep in your glove compartment, get a Bud BoxTM. Very professional looking: http://www.budind.com/small_metal_enclosures.php If you want something you can put in your jacket pocket, they sell them on Amazon.
21 posted on 11/10/2013 9:20:36 AM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: The KG9 Kid

No, I’m just looking for some good info. Wasn’t planning on creating a moose/sister thread. Go play somewhere else.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 9:21:33 AM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: GunsAndBibles

You didn’t have to tell us you were going to the range, we already knew that.


23 posted on 11/10/2013 9:22:53 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: GunsAndBibles

GPS works off a satellite & has nothing to do with the cellular network. But it’s receive-only, not two-way.


24 posted on 11/10/2013 9:23:08 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Nobody is monitoring you, they are just creating a record for future use if you need to be controlled.


25 posted on 11/10/2013 9:23:32 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: GunsAndBibles

GPS continues to work because it’s being broadcast by a satellite, not a cell tower.


26 posted on 11/10/2013 9:24:33 AM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: JustSurrounded

Put it on top of your head under the tinfoil hat.


27 posted on 11/10/2013 9:26:45 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: The KG9 Kid
I get various sized decorative tin containers such as old cigar tins, cookie tins, cigarette holders, kids' lunch boxes, etc. at yard sales, flea markets and antique shops.

For more rugged protection, ammo cans.

I line the insides with cardboard or adhesive backed pipe insulation.

Now your credit cards are protected from RFID readers and electronics gear from monitoring and from electromagnetic pulse.

28 posted on 11/10/2013 9:30:01 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Your phone has a GPS receiver in it which is independent of the cellular network. The phone does report its location to the network when connected.


29 posted on 11/10/2013 9:31:02 AM PST by The Klingon
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To: RickGee

If you like your tinfoil hats,
you can keep your tinfoil hats, period.

— Barack Hussein Obama II


30 posted on 11/10/2013 9:33:27 AM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Sawdring
Nobody is monitoring you, they are just creating a record for future use if you need to be controlled.

^^This^^

31 posted on 11/10/2013 9:33:31 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: GunsAndBibles

Simple, dont use it, lose it and stay away from such things.
I understand that the X Box thingys will soon be able to monitor homes if they are installed.
This high tech crap is the governments way to track you better, where ever you go.

Of course, you will always have the tin foil crowd around here that will say your paranoid.


32 posted on 11/10/2013 9:35:08 AM PST by crz
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To: GunsAndBibles
Looking for a signal blocking case/enclosure, similar to Faraday cage.

Ping for ideas

33 posted on 11/10/2013 9:37:59 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: RickGee

..and tinfoil will have a backdoor for the NSA.


34 posted on 11/10/2013 9:42:43 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: GunsAndBibles
Was given a new Android phone (loaded with Google programs) and i beat it to death with bigheadfreds titanium framing hammer thanks bigheadfred
35 posted on 11/10/2013 9:47:54 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: GunsAndBibles

Well, I can tell you the antenna gets impeded quite easily with your hand. Just get metal that can ground both sides of the phone’s case together and that might work. The carrier antenna is housed in the plastic strip on the lower back of the unit, and the wifi antenna in the top half strip running above the camera.


36 posted on 11/10/2013 9:58:37 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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37 posted on 11/10/2013 10:02:27 AM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Alex Murphy

a microwave


38 posted on 11/10/2013 10:29:15 AM PST by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: Delta 21

like i told the clerk at the beer station i mean gas station when he asked if i wanted my receipt if the government isnt keeping better records on me than i can keep myself what is the point


39 posted on 11/10/2013 10:31:38 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: GunsAndBibles
If you have any old CRT monitors gathering dust, they usually contain 4-8lbs of lead shielding you could probably put to use.

Or if you reload your shotgun ammo, you could make a small cover out of the pellets.

Come to think of it, years ago, camera/photo stores used to sell a lead foil bag to store photo film for international travel (to minimize the effects of older baggage screening machines).

40 posted on 11/10/2013 10:43:35 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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You should be able to turn off all transmitters.Specifically, the telephone network and wifi when you don't want to be tracked.

GPS is easier but could probably be turned back on remotely if connected to the network.

41 posted on 11/10/2013 10:49:10 AM PST by dhs12345
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And your GPS location information has to be communicated back to the network somehow. Either via the telephone cell network or wifi/Internet.

GPS is one direction only (from the satellites to the device).

42 posted on 11/10/2013 10:52:02 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: GunsAndBibles
realized I'm always being monitored, even when the phone is OFF....Looking for a signal blocking case/enclosure

Wrap it in tinfoil......you can use the rest of it to make a cool hat.

43 posted on 11/10/2013 10:53:32 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Make sure you have removed the kleenex from your pockets before doing laundry)
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To: GunsAndBibles

A metal box is not a Faraday cage unless the metal box is grounded. Otherwise it’s just a metal box


44 posted on 11/10/2013 10:55:03 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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I don’t know if your phone will fit, but I use this for my Razr (no smart phones here). It works. The front pocket blocks radiation, the back pocket blocks the signal. After 3-4 months of regular use these wear out and stop working effectively so be prepared to replace it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200852104091?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D200852104091%26_rdc%3D1


45 posted on 11/10/2013 11:22:35 AM PST by CelesteChristi
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To: miliantnutcase

Keep in mind that a number of phones have been produced which “work” with the user battery removed and no obvious source of power. Of course, there is a power source; it’s just not obvious (it is a battery “camouflaged” as another component). Whether these special phones have ever been sold as consumer models is unclear.


46 posted on 11/10/2013 11:31:49 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Ha, Ha,

Considering that our overlords can tap the Chancellor of Germany’s cell phone, I would say that a small dose of paranoia is a wise position. Especially if you fit Janet Reno’s terrorist profile.

Are you uninformed, naive or just stupid?


47 posted on 11/10/2013 1:14:56 PM PST by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Alex Murphy

Well, I do have one that will let your cell evade all of the NSA stuff, but it’ll take a bit of kicking around. And like the weapons stuff, I’m not about to put it uncrypted on the net.


48 posted on 11/10/2013 1:18:37 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: steve86

It’s becoming more or less default that devices carry a small charge to keep from losing stored data while you change the battery.


49 posted on 11/10/2013 1:20:45 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: GunsAndBibles
Are you uninformed, naive or just stupid?

Well, to answer that question, if YOU think that YOU are being MONITORED then YOU are either PARANOID or stupid.......

For the record, I would rather not call a fellow FReeper stupid........

That's why I politely recommended tinfoil.............


50 posted on 11/10/2013 1:37:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Make sure you have removed the kleenex from your pockets before doing laundry)
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