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Does Harry Reid Realize What He's Done? (Vanity)
NHN ^ | 11/22/2013 | Night Hides Not

Posted on 11/22/2013 6:13:42 AM PST by Night Hides Not

Harry Reid just made President Obama a lame duck. With his triggering of the "nuclear option", he nuked any chances for any of Obama's legislative priorities through the 2014 elections.

Immigration "reform" -

Tax reform -

Any other Democrat priority -


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KEYWORDS: harryreid; nuclearoption
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To: Night Hides Not

They aren’t undoing a two century precedent, they are undoing their own ten-year-old precedent.

It was the Democrats starting when they went back to the minority in 2003 who adopted the filibuster as a systemic tool to block nominees when the President had a majority in the Senate. This was unheard of when Clinton had a majority (1993 and 1994) and for the long stretch (1977 to 1987) after the adoption of the modern filibuster.

Strategically it makes sense. Obama is willing and able to appoint judges far more outside the mainstream than a President Cruz or Christie would likley to with a Republican Senate in 2017.


51 posted on 11/22/2013 7:30:44 AM PST by only1percent
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To: sport

Reid just voted for the end of ObamaCare.


52 posted on 11/22/2013 7:33:11 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: paint_your_wagon
It’s my understanding that the judges that are up for Senate confirmation will be the ones to sit on cases involving Obamacare. The courts will be stacked to ensure Zerocare does not get dinged by the courts. Senate Dems are doing everything within their powers to keep this law in place.

The only court defined by the Constitution is the Supreme Court.

If by some miracle Conservatives can win all three branches in 2016, the new Congress has in it's Constitutional powers the ability to just dissolve any District Court.

It would be Constitutional for the Congress to dissolve any court filled with blatantly anti-Constitutional Marxists.

53 posted on 11/22/2013 7:35:40 AM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sport
The Republican “Leadership” cannot be under estimated.

Sorry.

54 posted on 11/22/2013 7:36:48 AM PST by upchuck (I can't stand people that don't know the difference between 'your' and 'you're.' Their so stupid...)
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To: Mears

bfl


55 posted on 11/22/2013 7:38:11 AM PST by Mears
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To: aumrl
Can House not fund the courts?

Are you saying they defund the Supreme Court?

56 posted on 11/22/2013 7:58:21 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Night Hides Not

This is a desperation move. They WANT the focus of the next year to be partisan bickering. And not Obamacare. It’s their one remaining option to possibly hold enough Senate seats to keep a minimal majority.

The vast majority of the public has no idea how the filibuster works or how important it is. Thank the implosion of civics in public school education over the last 50 years.


57 posted on 11/22/2013 8:04:43 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I wonder how Boehner’s “there will be an amnesty vote this year” is working out for him.

The house want's lots of amnesty votes:

Vote 1: Defense of Borders Act.
Vote 2: Workplace Security Act.
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Vote n: You get the picture

58 posted on 11/22/2013 8:09:39 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: tanknetter
This is a desperation move. They WANT the focus of the next year to be partisan bickering. And not Obamacare. It’s their one remaining option to possibly hold enough Senate seats to keep a minimal majority.

No matter what the Dems try, they won't be able to get Obamacare shunted to the sidelines. I'm also betting that Obama has completely pi$$ed off the insurance companies, who will send cancellation notices on millions of employer-provided policies to customers a few weeks before the November 2014 mid-terms.

The website will never be fixed, nor will the security issues ever be resolved.

59 posted on 11/22/2013 8:22:29 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Night Hides Not

He’ll be using EOs (Executive Orders) by the file cabinet-load now, to get done what he wants, over the next 3 years, to bypass the US Congress.


60 posted on 11/22/2013 8:23:39 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: sport

And again on Nov 6, 2012.


61 posted on 11/22/2013 8:25:37 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: SampleMan
Now the question is, what is their 9 month game plan to secure power?

Do you even need to ask that question?

They plan on stealing, openly and brazenly, every election they need. Mark my words. Every election they need will run just as every other election in recent times. They will pull out all the votes they need in the 11th hour.

WHO IS GONNA STOP 'EM?

62 posted on 11/22/2013 8:26:52 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Night Hides Not
If not, the Tea Party caucus will make his life miserable

Really? How are they going to do that? Take away his job, the way they did after he mumbled and bumbled his way through the government shutdown?

Oh, wait...I guess they gave him a standing ovation instead, didn't they?

You're not just dreaming, you're hallucinating.

63 posted on 11/22/2013 8:32:07 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Night Hides Not

The insurance companies will go wherever the money is, in the classic case of Capitalists selling the rope that’s then used to hang them.

So long as there’s the “guaranteed” bailout money, and they keep their contracts for providing insurance under various other governmental programs (like FEHB), they’ll do whatever Obama wants them to do.


64 posted on 11/22/2013 8:33:28 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: SampleMan
You left out foreign treaties, which will now sail through the Senate.

Don't treaties require a two thirds majority affirmation of the Senate to become binding upon the U.S., or did they abolish that section of the Constitution while I wasn't looking?

65 posted on 11/22/2013 8:35:21 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Well then, we can agree to disagree.


66 posted on 11/22/2013 8:37:47 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Night Hides Not
agree to disagree

Yes.

Just like our Republican leadership in Washington. Even while the Democrats slap, punch and kick them to pieces.

Look, I appreciate your courtesy and admire your optimism. I hope that you are right and I am wrong.

But it is my unwavering conviction that the scoundrel in the Whitehouse and the rest of the Democrats want to WIN every battle; while the Republicans merely want to scrape, grovel and crawl through each election.

67 posted on 11/22/2013 8:45:40 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Windflier
Don't treaties require a two thirds majority affirmation...

They only need 51 to have a quorum, so without any rules to delay a vote, they can just bring it to the floor and vote it through with 2/3 present, when only have the GOP is there.

68 posted on 11/22/2013 8:49:51 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Treaties have always required a super-majority vote. I believe that is directly in the Constitution - not subject to Senate rules.


69 posted on 11/22/2013 8:58:09 AM PST by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: paint_your_wagon

There is still SCOTUS. I know that doesn’t make most people here feel any better.


70 posted on 11/22/2013 9:02:44 AM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: SampleMan
they can just bring it to the floor and vote it through with 2/3 present, when only have the GOP is there.

Yes, I'd forgotten about that. What a very, very dangerous situation we're in.

71 posted on 11/22/2013 9:07:03 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CityCenter

No. But it is very telling that the Senate Dems are so willing to go so far as to pee in the pool to ensure this unconstitutional abomination doesn’t get knocked down. They are going to kick, scream, and use every dirty and possibly illegal method at their disposal to protect this Act.


72 posted on 11/22/2013 9:25:24 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Tandem

They only need 51 to have a quorum, so without any rules to delay a vote, they can just bring it to the floor and vote it through with ~40 votes when only a few GOP senators are there. That gives them a 2/3 Senate vote.


73 posted on 11/22/2013 11:00:01 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Fightin Whitey
But it is my unwavering conviction that the scoundrel in the Whitehouse and the rest of the Democrats want to WIN every battle; while the Republicans merely want to scrape, grovel and crawl through each election.

I admit that I can be overly optimistic at times, and this is probably no exception. If yesterday's events do not shake Republicans to their core, then nothing will.

74 posted on 11/22/2013 11:05:02 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Night Hides Not

Do you suppose that when the 2014 election puts the Republicans back in control the Democrats will reverse what they did yesterday??


75 posted on 11/22/2013 3:03:57 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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