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Common Core Instructs Students to Learn About Gettysburg Address Without Mentioning the Civil War
Fox News Insider ^ | NOV 30 2013 9:41AM

Posted on 11/30/2013 10:51:17 PM PST by Olog-hai

Is it possible to teach students the meaning behind President Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address without mentioning the Civil War?

According to the government’s new Common Core education standards, the Gettysburg Address must be taught without mentioning the Civil War and explaining why President Lincoln was in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: civilwar; commiecore; commoncore; communistgoals; curriculum; gettysburgaddress; learning; lincoln; revisionisthistory; teaching

1 posted on 11/30/2013 10:51:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Kinda’ like learning about Winston Churchill’s gratitude speech without learning about the blitz over London. Or Roosevelt’s day of infamy speech wherein we declare war on Japan without learning about Pearl Harbor.

Common Core is an abomination. Homeschool your kids if you can.


2 posted on 11/30/2013 10:54:54 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Olog-hai
They seem to be trying to teach history from a multicultural perspective, that it, to not offend anyone, ever. (except white people, of course)

History doesn't really work like that, because most of the noteworthy historical elements were conflicts, or the results of conflicts.

3 posted on 11/30/2013 10:58:30 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

When you see college graduates on Jay Leno’s “Jaywalking” displaying tremendous ignorance on the easiest historic facts, you can thank the Department of Education.


4 posted on 11/30/2013 11:06:24 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Slyfox

Department of Miseducation


5 posted on 11/30/2013 11:12:41 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: Stingray

bump


6 posted on 11/30/2013 11:17:52 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Stingray

I was in 3rd grade in 61 and I remember learning about Lincoln and the civil war. We even had a stovepipe hat that the teacher passed around so we could have fun trying it on and giggling at how silly we looked in it.

I remember the teacher pointing out that Lincoln was the first Republican president... you’d never hear that in school nowadays.

School was once a serious learning experience.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 11:40:01 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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To: Vince Ferrer

History is conflict, sorrows, woes, and determination.

Without telling the whole picture of history, you are basically taking some kind of classwork with zero value. I don’t what you intend to learn....by cherry-picking your way through it.

Skipping the battles of Rome, to only chat about speeches by the Rome Senators?

Skipping the great battles of Greece, to only chat about Socrates?

Skipping WW I, to only chat about Wilson’s League of Nations?

There is no prospective here.

There’s some point about a thousand years ago, where the intellectual elite were successful and had destroyed most of the common knowledge and writings of Aristotle. You could travel through all of Rome and Paris....finding nothing but a few pages of writings.

Then one day....someone happened to be wondering around Spain, which was run for the most part by the Muslims, and accidentally walked into the midst of vast libraries of collections by Aristotle. Everyone was shocked...especially after they began to review his logic and philosophy work. The whole age of enlightenment....comes mostly from this discovery.

If this is the commmon core theme, then it’s a screwed up method.


8 posted on 12/01/2013 12:03:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

If this is the commmon core theme, then it’s a screwed up method.

Sort of discovered after the fact. Common Core implementation or acceptance took place before the theme, if I have my history correct.


9 posted on 12/01/2013 12:21:50 AM PST by wita
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To: Vince Ferrer; pepsionice; GeronL; wita; wastedyears; Stingray; Bobalu; Slyfox; Olog-hai

Be aware, this clip is 20 minutes ling. I guarantee, it’s packed with info and will fly by:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QJ3I_xF4MY


10 posted on 12/01/2013 1:03:47 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

check in for tomorrow. it’s too late right now


11 posted on 12/01/2013 1:06:14 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

That’s OK.
I’m going to spend the next several hours trying to teach myself how to spell the word “long.”

~or~ I may just go buy a new keyboard.


12 posted on 12/01/2013 1:28:38 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

lol


13 posted on 12/01/2013 1:49:28 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL; shibumi

I’ll second too late, I’ll watch it during the day.


14 posted on 12/01/2013 2:22:21 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: GeronL
"... by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)"

I'll have the Welsh Rarehobbit.
15 posted on 12/01/2013 2:43:36 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

Going through the links, one finally finds out that the passage is being read in English class. In that context, it makes some sense to stay on the subject and not cover history questions.


16 posted on 12/01/2013 3:39:46 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: Olog-hai

Common core are capitolists (soros and gates) who are now communists progagandizing your children!


17 posted on 12/01/2013 4:40:06 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: shibumi

bttt


18 posted on 12/01/2013 5:02:02 AM PST by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: wita

I don’t doubt the CC is a mess but I work with the schools and can tell you they are not doing a lot of what is showing up around here. My sons district is using original documents and non fiction to supplement and enhance - not replace. The issue is in interpretation and the fact no one is approach hing this the same. I deal with mtiple districts and they are all over the place. Many have no clue how to map and implement. It is there where the most danger lies as teachers and administrators insert their liberal ideals into the lessons more so than in other places. The real danger IMO is with the record keeping and reporting and what the teachers are now required to track on every student.


19 posted on 12/01/2013 5:12:44 AM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: Olog-hai

Kind of remonds me of Baltimore Public Schools. I heard they begin teaching History at the Civil Rights movement.


20 posted on 12/01/2013 5:16:45 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Olog-hai

They don’t want the kids to focus on how many white people were killed to free the slaves.


21 posted on 12/01/2013 5:16:51 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SauronOfMordor
"Going through the links, one finally finds out that the passage is being read in English class. In that context, it makes some sense to stay on the subject and not cover history questions."

No it doesn't.

Knowledge cannot be compartmentalized into "subject" groups. True knowledge encompasses many disciplines and must be put into context with all other knowledge. This is a shallow example but one that comes readily to mind.... you can read a recipe for apple pie, but you can't possibly comprehend what an apple pie is if you do not have any idea what an apple is.

Back when I taught Elementary school in the 70's, we went to great lengths to coordinate the different subjects so that a particular lesson could be taught "cross-platform" so-to-speak, and encompass math, history, science, language, literature and perhaps even P.E. It made the lesson more real to the students as they could see that it touched them in many ways and had many applications in their lives. We used to sit in grade-level department meetings and come up with ideas of how we could achieve this.

But, you must understand that if people today are too knowledgeable about a particular subject, for instance an historical event, then it will be too difficult for government propagandists to rewrite the facts to their own evil benefits. It would be too difficult for them to redefine Lincoln's words to mean something entirely different.

22 posted on 12/01/2013 5:20:00 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Olog-hai

What’s the new official purpose of the Gettysburg Address? Global Warming?


23 posted on 12/01/2013 5:33:53 AM PST by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Bingo. Many of my seasoned teachers have compared CC to how they taught years ago but now have the added burden of the reporting and assessment that is so controversial. It is a fine fine line. I have for example ensured my teachers have access to a variety of historical documents based on grade level, biographies (even have preschool board books on presidents and Independence Day), immigration, dust bowl, how Washington works, how elections work, etc. I can go on and on and the schools are interested and buying from me. I do what I can to preview and ensure accuracy, identify bias and so on. My Social Studies teachers are collaborating with English to work with assorted mythologies as part of world history. I know of one grade working on learning about inventors in Social Studies while collaborating with the Science teacher on related experiments. My favorite was one entire school reading the Wizard of Oz. Each week there were activities like learning about weather, creating a tornado in a soda bottle, learning the georgraphy of the Midwest, learning all about the state of Kansas...this went on and on so that every subject area was hit in some fashion. The kids and teachers solved it. Yeah, CC is dangerous and controversial in many areas but not all schools are going down the path of changing history.


24 posted on 12/01/2013 5:38:11 AM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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To: nurees

I somewhat disagree. The real issue is common core is barely out of the box and reality has not yet sunk in due to slow implementation. It was so designed as to become unstoppable once the truth was out, and it certainly isn’t yet. Once the testing is in place teachers will no longer have the luxury of doing things the way they know is successful, they will be forced by testing needs to teach common core.

It may end up another too big to fail. Only two courses as yet have written standards with more to come and the real ball buster is the data mining that is out in the future somewhere out of sight. No one seems to mind about the potential expense as long as big gov is in the mix, but just like medicaid expansion, no one knows, not even the Shadow, what the long term economic issues will be.


25 posted on 12/01/2013 8:56:27 AM PST by wita
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To: Olog-hai

This may be the lesson plan here. I couldn’t get the actual PDF of the Gettysburg Address to display (I suspect it is a variant without the mention of God/Creator).

It does discuss divorcing the context of the speech from the lesson plan.

http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/american-civil-war/resources/gettysburg-address

“Introduction - Tell the students that they will be learning what Abraham Lincoln was saying in the Gettysburg Address by reading and understanding Lincoln’s own words. Resist the temptation to put the speech into too much context. Remember, we are trying to let the students discover what Lincoln had to say and then develop ideas based solely on his words.”


26 posted on 12/01/2013 9:40:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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