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ISON UPDATE/Large Debris Moving Fast.
www.youtube.com ^ | Dec 4, 2013 | BPEarthWatch

Posted on 12/05/2013 12:02:03 AM PST by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; comet; culticparanoia; ibtz; ison; nuttery; thistimeforsure; thistimewegotit; timetopanic; wereallgonnadie; weredoomedthistime
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To: Darksheare
CORRECTION:
221 posted on 12/12/2013 12:29:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

None.


222 posted on 12/12/2013 1:11:26 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Yosemitest

Once they had observed ison enough, the orbit was solid.
So again, the answer is “none”.
The remains, if any, are still on previous path away from the sun.


223 posted on 12/12/2013 1:16:13 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: NoCmpromiz
Then WHY ISN'T ISON's DEBRIS WHERE NASA predicted it to be?
It's currently reported to be about 2 days ahead of their schedule, now, and off course.

And as a side note, read this Read Phaethon confirmed as rock comet by STEREO vision Sep 10, 2013
Also read Asteroid Vs. Comet: What The Heck Is 3200 Phaethon?.
224 posted on 12/12/2013 1:24:53 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Darksheare
No, I don't believe that,
There's been a documented change of orbit.
225 posted on 12/12/2013 1:25:58 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: NoCmpromiz
IF SO, THEN WHY does NASA slingshot their satellites bound for other planets or into deep space around other planetary bodies,
if not to gain speed and lessen the cost of a direct path to their destination?
226 posted on 12/12/2013 1:34:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

No there has not.
Ison is still on the orbit predicted.
There has been no magic change.
And there is no way for its orbit outward to intersect with ours.
It is above the plane of the ecliptic.
Ecliptic being our orbit.
On the swing around the sun, ison followed what was predicted.
The only surprise was the activity of the nucleus ceased.

Look up comet 96p/machholz.
For what bpearthwatch says to be true, comet macholz cannot exist.
Nor should encke or temple Tuttle.


227 posted on 12/12/2013 1:57:55 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare
Did I currently say it would intersect us? No.
But I won't feel secure from the outbound debris until after the 1st of January, 2014.
The orbital path has been document as ~ no longer on schedule, or on path, ~ whether you acknowledge it or not.
However I do respect you opinion, and I still have much to learn about comets.

Like I said before, they interest me, and I believe Revelations.
Within the laws of physics, I want to understand the "HOW" .
It's been many years since I was in high school and mathematics was my strong suite, but I haven't reviewed any mathematics for many, many years.
I didn't get to take calculus in high school, because our math teacher got a better job teaching college level, after my junior year.
Oh well, so goes life.

What I don't understand is, what propels comets or any space body into the high speeds that most achieve, but I know that swings around other bodies is part of it, as well as collisions, and stellar explosions.

Don't take offense, just because I disagree (learning in progress).
228 posted on 12/12/2013 2:32:04 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I don’t care how far they were from earth, they were nowhere near each other, and ISON certainly was not “passing through” the tail of Lovejoy. On December 10th, ISON’s remains were a third of an AU away from Lovejoy, that’s over 30 million miles.


229 posted on 12/12/2013 6:07:09 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: Yosemitest

My point in showing you that was to show that there’s nothing unusual about tail disconnection events. ISON’s debris cloud is continuing to follow the original orbit of the comet. I showed that in my video as well. Bruce is talking about the dispersion of the cloud, not the overall course of the thing. The evidence shows that the overall course is still the same and that it is NOT headed towards earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lw-kGs-Olg
Here’s another example:
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/REPROCESSING/Completed/2013/c3/20131201/20131201_0054_c3_1024.jpg
Here’s the astrometrically solved version of that image:
http://nova.astrometry.net/user_images/152074#annotated
Here are the ephemeris I generated for ISON months before perihelion:
http://dropcanvas.com/uw06n
Granted those ephemeris are specific to my observing site, not SOHO’s position, but because we’re dealing with a widefield imager here it won’t matter to a huge extent. The main thing is that the debris is still following the same general trajectory. I highlighted the spot where ISON was predicted to be in the astrometrically solved image with a green circle. Again, my ephemeris was generated way back in September, and as you can see, the debris is continuing to follow ISON’s orbit, which means it’s not a threat for “impact.”
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9042/uf89.jpg


230 posted on 12/12/2013 6:12:00 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter

And the intersection of the two were reported on Dec 6, 2013, not on Dec 1st, 2013.


231 posted on 12/12/2013 6:21:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

I didn’t say anything about December 1st. You mean December 10th? They were even farther apart on December 6th than on the 10th.


232 posted on 12/12/2013 6:37:53 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: messierhunter
My mistake, sorry.
I must have been thinking about the dates from your linked photos.
233 posted on 12/12/2013 8:14:34 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: messierhunter
From my comment #213: Look at this video of Comet LoveJoy's Orbit. At 0:02 or 2 seconds into the 11 second video, the path of Comet Lovejoy is very close (in this video compared to the Comet Ison Interactive Model) to the orbital pat of Comet Ison's debris.
Now I wish I had a better model to reference right now, but I don't.
And I don't have the money to purchase SkySafari Pro right now, but so far that's the best I can find.
234 posted on 12/13/2013 3:19:05 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
ADDITION:
235 posted on 12/13/2013 3:22:53 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Your link doesn’t work. ISON was nowhere near Lovejoy during the tail disconnection event. I do have skysafaripro and it was millions of kilometers away, almost half the distance to the sun on December 6th. Starry Night also shows the same thing.


236 posted on 12/13/2013 8:07:58 AM PST by messierhunter
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To: Darksheare

Don’t argue with them. Just carry an umbrella.


237 posted on 12/13/2013 8:12:32 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Yosemitest; Darksheare
But I won't feel secure from the outbound debris until after the 1st of January, 2014.

It's the Y2KXIV threat!

238 posted on 12/13/2013 8:15:42 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: messierhunter

239 posted on 12/13/2013 8:20:06 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Larry Lucido

The outbound threat should be over by the 31st of December 2013, but the inbound threat won’t end until mid or late January 2014.


240 posted on 12/13/2013 8:21:58 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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