Posted on 12/10/2013 7:24:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill
Why? - You can buy plenty of factory ammo now. You can find all the reloading supplies you need (you can't find re loadable cases for the 7.62x39 Russian, if you can they are expensive, you are limited to cheap steel cases that can not be reloaded). You can carry 1200 rounds on your person (try carrying 1200 7.62x51 rounds). ARs chambered in .223 are a accurate as any bolt gun. The .223 Remington is a deadly round (loaded with the right bullet-powder combo you can kill deer and 2 legged game just fine with it, the 22LR just does not cut it as a self defense round). You will be able to find parts and people to help you with it for years to come.
I think every able bodied citizen should own an AR.
You and everyone else that shoots should take up hand loading your own ammo. It will take the cost of your 280 Remington shells from $1.25 each down to 50 cents per round. Get a press, dies, digital powder scale, automated case prep center, case trimmer with electric motor (1K investment) and you will be able to reload your own ammo for the rest of your life.
This is the best advice posted so far on this thread.
I agree. Just got a .25 caliber pellet rifle - is very quiet, with subsonic muzzle velocities and quiet action. Quiet is good. Pellets are plentiful and cheap. You pump it up with a souped-up bicycle pump.
Excellent list though I would add two more to cover the black power group (more of an option though):
45-70
.45 long colt
what is the make and model of the .25 pellet rifle that you purchased?
Crosman Benjamin .25 caliber with synthetic stock, from pyramidair.com
Sorry, I forgot - its called the Marauder.
You should have 2
.22LR and .308.
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Bingo! steel case FMJ 7.62x39 Russian.
While folks were paying .90cents to $1.29 a round for .223, the above mentioned went for around .60 cents at the peak.
Plentiful, cheap, sealed.
Downside...no brass to reload.
AK platform is designed to be reliable regardless. Dunk that baby in muddy water, rack it and fire a hundred rounds.
When search for firearms when the SHTF, I’d search for what ammo will be available after the fact. .22, 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, 38/357, 9mm and .45 calibers.
Why? because they are in large supply throughout the U.S. What good is a 7mm, 30-06, 270, or any hunting ammo if you cannot resupply during the holocaust? Everyone wants to survive if that’s the case you cannot limit yourself to weapons with limited supplies of ammunition. Go common caliber.
Ammo availability for when TSHTF. What is most commonly used is likely to be most commonly available later. If there is another round as popular as the 12ga then it makes sense to have a weapon capable of using it when necessary.
12 or 20 unless you have one of the combination .22 LR/.410 arms, then .410 Some pistols will take .410 shotshells, too.
I have taken whitetail deer with a .410 (rifled slug)
Thanks,I forgot the most popular firearm in America. The 12 gauge shotgun is the best weapon in CQB.
Agreed. Except for my Beowulf .50cal, which I have 5,000 rnds for, I have 7 other common calibers. I sold my “fully-accessorized” Barrett .50 BMG and ammo, two weeks ago.
I’m looking fwd to trying out my new Hornady ‘LeverEvolution’ plastic-tipped 30-30 cartridges.
But I don’t want to waste any as expensive as they are. Got lucky the other day on some .45 at Dunhams yesterday. Last three boxes of Remington ball.
Got those 2 and 5 more common calibers and huge stockpiles of ammo for each.
I take that 5 calibers back; it included handguns, too. I’d also add-in a 12ga to the mix.
Good advice. I’ve been stockpiling ammo since 9-11-01, for 7 calibers, so I’m good. There’s so many pieces involved in reloading that the upfront investment scares-off some people, plus the workspace required, and storage for all those various pieces and needed supplies. I’d worry about storing black powder in a condo complex, in case of a fire or accident, with neighbors too close. Is there a penalty on a homeowner’s ins policy for reloading/storing black powder, if they’d find out?
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