Skip to comments.Rare Film From 1932 U.S.Military attacks demonstrating American War Veterans
Posted on 01/11/2014 5:21:46 PM PST by chicagolady
History I never knew - SHOCKING Rare Film From 1932
.... they wouldn't do that to the citizens of the United States would they????
Can It Happen Again?
What’s the last thing the narrator says?
That the incident shows the need not for the bonus but for a new American system.
Kind of like a fundamental transformation?
I noted that, too. Makes me wonder who put this film together and to what purpose. There is far more to this tale than this 7 minute film cares to share.
Wasn’t that a clear violation of Posse Comitatus?
Look up the 1932 election. People were throwing things at Hoover at his campaign stops.
That’s Douglas MacArthur and George S. Patton clearing out the ‘Bonus Army’.
Put down by MacArthur and Eisenhower was his aide. But orders are orders.
General MacArthur commandeered and led the attacks against the Bonus Army.
And then the government decides to mess with Henry Bowman.
Wrong! The veterans had largely dispersed and were replaced by communists and assorted rabble spoiling for a fight.
The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up those communists.
U.S. government property in D.C.
Not sure posse comitatus would apply.
No one taught this in my history classes.
Another fine example of why I call DC the District of Criminals.
And another reason for the 2nd Amendment.
See post #10.
Today we are better equipped and our numbers are greater and we are under no illusion that troops would not kill their neighbors. It would be a blood bath, go after the officers first. Find their families and go Chinese mafia.
I didn’t know that.
The veterans had largely dispersed and been replaced by communists and assorted agitators itching for a fight.
The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up the communists in 1932.
The veterans involved were no better than the Occupy Wall Street crowd at that point. They were using the threat of force to try and extort money out of the American people through Congress.
Not sure if I read it in MacArthur’s biography or Eisenhower’s. Some kids were asphyxiated I think during the tear gassing too.
They were starving.
This was the “Bonus Army”.
WWI vets were given bonds for their serrvice - payable something like 25 years after the end of the war.
Unfortunarely, the Great Depression came along and the vets wanted the government to pay off early.
They gathered in camps along the Mall in DC - similar to “Hoovervilles” or “Occupy Wall Street.”
The government’s position was “a deal is a deal” and that it didn’t have the money at the time anyway.
Thus, the Army was ordered to clear the vets off of the Mall ...
Does that justify the use of military force against civilians?
It was taught in my history classes (1972) in college, not in high school though.
Since this administration is doing all it can to destroy the US economy and cause another great depression, it won’t only be veterans at the mall in DC, it will be the great racial/class war that the communists have been working for since Roosevelt.
What a tough fellow, fantasizing about going after women and children.
Get shoved you loser.
William Robert: You are wrong in both your assessment of our military (and the oaths they take), as well as the response you advocate. I refuse to believe that my Brothers and Sisters (with a few exceptions) will violate their oaths and attack civilians simply for demonstrating. There are too many of us who believe in the oaths we took, and keep living by.
Every time there's a major race riot, we see the use of military force against civilians.
Not sure posse comitatus would apply.
Come now, you speak as though the government is some foreign alien. Who is the government and whose property are we talking about?
The lesson to take from this sorry display by the Peoples’ servants is that the servants attacked their master and they were able to do so because the military betrayed their oath and their true master and sided with the lawless. This is the fear we are facing today. If the military sides with the lawless, the People are screwed.
Any time large numbers of people riot, the military gets involved.
Yes and they will all be gassed.
Just like the Left will never forgive Richard Nixon for nailing Alger Hiss despite the fact that as president, Nixon enacted a boatload of the Left's agenda items.
Legal question that I’m not of the answer to. D.C. has different laws, or did then.
‘Bonus Army’ was covered in my 9th grade American history book.
“They were starving.”
No, they weren’t. I’m sure many had to skip meals and had little or no work, but they were not starving. The simple fact is that starving men would have no energy to march or travel hundreds of miles and protest for weeks on end. They would all have died. I don’t deny they were desperate, but they were not starving.
“Unintended Consequences” is an excellent book. Captivating and very informative at the same time.
I was taught it in school in Texas, probably in Junior High.
Fast forward to December 2013:
Oh, you can’t say something that silly.
I spent a lot of time on the road traveling, and starving, starving men can do a lot, they don’t just lay down and die once they figure out that they are losing weight on a bad, inadequate diet.
It was taught in my HS, back in the old California.
ansel12, I can say it and did. And what I said is true. They were not starving. If they were starving, they would have died in the streets and camp of starvation. How many died of starvation, ansel12? Oh, that’s right, none!
This WWI bunch of demonstrators would have been mostly draftees.
Just plain silly, there can be a lot of starving, and a lot of activity before one dies, I know that for a fact.
Most people who have suffered starving, do not die, they eventually break the starvation cycle.
No, it certainly was not a violation of Posse Comitatus. On the contrary, the Federal Government had an affirmative obligation to use Federal troops to restore and maintain domestic peace when confronted by domestic violence used to intimidate the elected representatives of the Federal and local government. The civil government requested the support of Federal troops to quell lethal domestic violence that had already occurred, was threatened to occur, and defend against threats being made against the members of Congress and the Federal Administration. Although it has remained debatable about the extent to which the Communist Party was able to incite domestic violence, it is a fact the Communists were present and were participating in efforts to incite rebellion and domestic violence just as they had already done so in other nations among their veterans.
Constitution of the United States of America. Article. IV. Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.
The ‘Bonus Army’ War in Washington
Originally published by American History magazine. Published Online: June 12, 2006
True enough, but usually under the guise of the 'national Guard' and not US military forces.
This action was a huge stain on the careers of all those involved.
The genuine veterans who wanted acceleration of bond payments had for the most part cleared out and been replaced by communists looking for a fight.
The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up the Leftists in 1932.
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