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Rare Film From 1932 U.S.Military attacks demonstrating American War Veterans
You Tube ^ | Jan 9, 2014 | Youtube

Posted on 01/11/2014 5:21:46 PM PST by chicagolady

History I never knew - SHOCKING Rare Film From 1932

http://www.youtube.com/embed/sNOsIB5VMSQ

.... they wouldn't do that to the citizens of the United States would they????

Can It Happen Again?


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1932; bef; bonusarmy; herberthoover; hoover; militaryfilm; veterans; vets
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Watch it and weep
1 posted on 01/11/2014 5:21:46 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: chicagolady

What’s the last thing the narrator says?

That the incident shows the need not for the bonus but for a new American system.

Kind of like a fundamental transformation?


2 posted on 01/11/2014 5:32:16 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
What’s the last thing the narrator says? That the incident shows the need not for the bonus but for a new American system.

I noted that, too. Makes me wonder who put this film together and to what purpose. There is far more to this tale than this 7 minute film cares to share.

3 posted on 01/11/2014 5:36:32 PM PST by Robwin
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To: chicagolady

Wasn’t that a clear violation of Posse Comitatus?


4 posted on 01/11/2014 5:37:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: chicagolady

Look up the 1932 election. People were throwing things at Hoover at his campaign stops.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 5:38:17 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: chicagolady

That’s Douglas MacArthur and George S. Patton clearing out the ‘Bonus Army’.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 5:39:17 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: chicagolady

Put down by MacArthur and Eisenhower was his aide. But orders are orders.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 5:40:12 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: chicagolady

General MacArthur commandeered and led the attacks against the Bonus Army.


8 posted on 01/11/2014 5:40:16 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: chicagolady
In the novel "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross, this incident is touched upon. The beginning of the novel is really a collection of historical events which demonstrate that the US government is out for itself (always has been) and does not care about individual citizens.

And then the government decides to mess with Henry Bowman.

Bad mistake.

9 posted on 01/11/2014 5:40:21 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: chicagolady
1932 U.S.Military attacks demonstrating American War Veterans

Wrong! The veterans had largely dispersed and were replaced by communists and assorted rabble spoiling for a fight.

The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up those communists.

10 posted on 01/11/2014 5:41:43 PM PST by fso301
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To: yarddog

U.S. government property in D.C.

Not sure posse comitatus would apply.


11 posted on 01/11/2014 5:42:08 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: JDoutrider

No one taught this in my history classes.


12 posted on 01/11/2014 5:42:13 PM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Another fine example of why I call DC the District of Criminals.

And another reason for the 2nd Amendment.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 5:42:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: chicagolady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNOsIB5VMSQ


14 posted on 01/11/2014 5:42:48 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Another fine example of why I call DC the District of Criminals.

See post #10.

15 posted on 01/11/2014 5:44:50 PM PST by fso301
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To: chicagolady

Today we are better equipped and our numbers are greater and we are under no illusion that troops would not kill their neighbors. It would be a blood bath, go after the officers first. Find their families and go Chinese mafia.


16 posted on 01/11/2014 5:45:36 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: fso301

I didn’t know that.


17 posted on 01/11/2014 5:45:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: SkyDancer
Put down by MacArthur and Eisenhower was his aide. But orders are orders.

The veterans had largely dispersed and been replaced by communists and assorted agitators itching for a fight.

The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up the communists in 1932.

18 posted on 01/11/2014 5:46:55 PM PST by fso301
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To: chicagolady

The veterans involved were no better than the Occupy Wall Street crowd at that point. They were using the threat of force to try and extort money out of the American people through Congress.


19 posted on 01/11/2014 5:47:51 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: chicagolady

Bookmark


20 posted on 01/11/2014 5:48:20 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: fso301

Not sure if I read it in MacArthur’s biography or Eisenhower’s. Some kids were asphyxiated I think during the tear gassing too.


21 posted on 01/11/2014 5:49:20 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: vladimir998

They were starving.


22 posted on 01/11/2014 5:50:05 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: chicagolady

This was the “Bonus Army”.

WWI vets were given bonds for their serrvice - payable something like 25 years after the end of the war.

Unfortunarely, the Great Depression came along and the vets wanted the government to pay off early.

They gathered in camps along the Mall in DC - similar to “Hoovervilles” or “Occupy Wall Street.”

The government’s position was “a deal is a deal” and that it didn’t have the money at the time anyway.

Thus, the Army was ordered to clear the vets off of the Mall ...


23 posted on 01/11/2014 5:50:14 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: fso301
The veterans had largely dispersed and were replaced by communists

Does that justify the use of military force against civilians?

24 posted on 01/11/2014 5:52:44 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: chicagolady

25 posted on 01/11/2014 5:54:26 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Baynative

It was taught in my history classes (1972) in college, not in high school though.


26 posted on 01/11/2014 5:55:07 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: chicagolady

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army


27 posted on 01/11/2014 5:55:45 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: chicagolady

Since this administration is doing all it can to destroy the US economy and cause another great depression, it won’t only be veterans at the mall in DC, it will be the great racial/class war that the communists have been working for since Roosevelt.


28 posted on 01/11/2014 5:56:55 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: WilliamRobert
"Find their families and go Chinese mafia."

What a tough fellow, fantasizing about going after women and children.

Get shoved you loser.

29 posted on 01/11/2014 5:57:31 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: WilliamRobert

William Robert: You are wrong in both your assessment of our military (and the oaths they take), as well as the response you advocate. I refuse to believe that my Brothers and Sisters (with a few exceptions) will violate their oaths and attack civilians simply for demonstrating. There are too many of us who believe in the oaths we took, and keep living by.


30 posted on 01/11/2014 5:57:58 PM PST by Bill Russell
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To: Michael.SF.
Does that justify the use of military force against civilians?

Every time there's a major race riot, we see the use of military force against civilians.

31 posted on 01/11/2014 5:58:31 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: jjotto
U.S. government property in D.C.

Not sure posse comitatus would apply.

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Come now, you speak as though the government is some foreign alien. Who is the government and whose property are we talking about?
The lesson to take from this sorry display by the Peoples’ servants is that the servants attacked their master and they were able to do so because the military betrayed their oath and their true master and sided with the lawless. This is the fear we are facing today. If the military sides with the lawless, the People are screwed.

32 posted on 01/11/2014 6:00:34 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Michael.SF.
Does that justify the use of military force against civilians?

Any time large numbers of people riot, the military gets involved.

33 posted on 01/11/2014 6:01:07 PM PST by fso301
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To: huldah1776

Yes and they will all be gassed.


34 posted on 01/11/2014 6:01:57 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: fso301
The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up those communists.

Just like the Left will never forgive Richard Nixon for nailing Alger Hiss despite the fact that as president, Nixon enacted a boatload of the Left's agenda items.

35 posted on 01/11/2014 6:02:39 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: iontheball

Legal question that I’m not of the answer to. D.C. has different laws, or did then.

‘Bonus Army’ was covered in my 9th grade American history book.


36 posted on 01/11/2014 6:04:29 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: chicagolady

“They were starving.”

No, they weren’t. I’m sure many had to skip meals and had little or no work, but they were not starving. The simple fact is that starving men would have no energy to march or travel hundreds of miles and protest for weeks on end. They would all have died. I don’t deny they were desperate, but they were not starving.


37 posted on 01/11/2014 6:04:42 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Fiji Hill
Just like the Left will never forgive Richard Nixon for nailing Alger Hiss despite the fact that as president, Nixon enacted a boatload of the Left's agenda items.

Yep.

38 posted on 01/11/2014 6:05:26 PM PST by fso301
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To: Michael.SF.

Nope.


39 posted on 01/11/2014 6:12:39 PM PST by TheDandyMan
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Unintended Consequences” is an excellent book. Captivating and very informative at the same time.


40 posted on 01/11/2014 6:13:47 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Michael.SF.

I was taught it in school in Texas, probably in Junior High.


41 posted on 01/11/2014 6:15:34 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Lmo56
The government’s position was “a deal is a deal”

Fast forward to December 2013:

Military Groups Feel Betrayed by Budget Pension Cuts

42 posted on 01/11/2014 6:15:41 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: vladimir998

Oh, you can’t say something that silly.

I spent a lot of time on the road traveling, and starving, starving men can do a lot, they don’t just lay down and die once they figure out that they are losing weight on a bad, inadequate diet.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 6:18:20 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Baynative
No one taught this in my history classes.

It was taught in my HS, back in the old California.

44 posted on 01/11/2014 6:20:01 PM PST by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: ansel12

ansel12, I can say it and did. And what I said is true. They were not starving. If they were starving, they would have died in the streets and camp of starvation. How many died of starvation, ansel12? Oh, that’s right, none!


45 posted on 01/11/2014 6:20:19 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: Fiji Hill

This WWI bunch of demonstrators would have been mostly draftees.


46 posted on 01/11/2014 6:20:44 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: vladimir998

Just plain silly, there can be a lot of starving, and a lot of activity before one dies, I know that for a fact.

Most people who have suffered starving, do not die, they eventually break the starvation cycle.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 6:22:54 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: yarddog

No, it certainly was not a violation of Posse Comitatus. On the contrary, the Federal Government had an affirmative obligation to use Federal troops to restore and maintain domestic peace when confronted by domestic violence used to intimidate the elected representatives of the Federal and local government. The civil government requested the support of Federal troops to quell lethal domestic violence that had already occurred, was threatened to occur, and defend against threats being made against the members of Congress and the Federal Administration. Although it has remained debatable about the extent to which the Communist Party was able to incite domestic violence, it is a fact the Communists were present and were participating in efforts to incite rebellion and domestic violence just as they had already done so in other nations among their veterans.

Constitution of the United States of America. Article. IV. Section. 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

The ‘Bonus Army’ War in Washington
Originally published by American History magazine. Published Online: June 12, 2006
http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm


48 posted on 01/11/2014 6:27:42 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Fiji Hill; fso301
Every time there's a major race riot, we see the use of military force against civilians.

True enough, but usually under the guise of the 'national Guard' and not US military forces.

This action was a huge stain on the careers of all those involved.

49 posted on 01/11/2014 6:30:15 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: ansel12
This WWI bunch of demonstrators would have been mostly draftees.

The genuine veterans who wanted acceleration of bond payments had for the most part cleared out and been replaced by communists looking for a fight.

The Left will never forgive MacArthur for rolling up the Leftists in 1932.

50 posted on 01/11/2014 6:32:58 PM PST by fso301
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