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Florida theatre killing proves guys with guns are primed to shoot
latimes.com ^ | Jan. 15, 2014 | David Horsey

Posted on 01/17/2014 6:10:16 AM PST by Anton.Rutter

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To: Uncle Chip
Where did I see that [jail cells at an entertainment venue] — I think it was Disneyland that has the same thing.

That's amazing. But I guess there's a need at every large facilty, and DisneyLand is as big as a small city.

141 posted on 01/18/2014 7:36:23 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: sport

Ours is fully legally covered under NDAA and secret FISA court written laws.


142 posted on 01/18/2014 7:43:59 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Albion Wilde

They have 6 jail cells behind a hidden door where people are detained until the Anaheim police arrive to take them away.

Whodathunk???

AdventureLand — FrontierLand — FantasyLand — TomorrowLand

.................... and JailLand


143 posted on 01/18/2014 7:46:39 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: deport
Closer look at Curtis Reeves shows theater shooter's two sides

"He is very religious, the attorney said...Reeves and his wife have been regulars at the red-brick First Baptist Church in Dade City, where they served as greeters and are active in a Bible study."

For any who haven't seen it, one of Duvall's masterpieces.

144 posted on 01/18/2014 7:48:58 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: William Tell; Uncle Chip
So you don't believe that throwing objects into someone's face is a criminal act?

People do criminal acts in my yard all the time, letting their dogs off leash to crap on my grass, and not picking it up. That's two county violations right there, and sometimes the dog owners trespass by stepping on my property with the dog, as well. That's three criminal acts. So, according to you, I have the right to shoot them? Three times, maybe?

145 posted on 01/18/2014 7:55:22 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
THE LINK IS NOT WORKING FOR ME. There, did you understand this time?

You're not armed, are you? Is that popcorn in your hands?

146 posted on 01/18/2014 8:00:17 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde
So, according to you, I have the right to shoot them? Three times, maybe?

More than that -- don't forget the dog.

147 posted on 01/18/2014 8:04:25 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I think it’s very likely that the thrown popcorn did not cause the shooter to “ fear for his life or great bodily harm” but that it actually “pissed him off.”


148 posted on 01/18/2014 8:06:09 AM PST by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Uncle Chip; Anton.Rutter; Jim Noble; Sherman Logan; deport; DoodleDawg; MD Expat in PA; ...
EXCLUSIVE - His daughter was SICK: Father shot dead in movie theater by ex-cop for texting was messaging toddler's babysitter because he thought he'd have to skip film

Thank you for your link to the DailyMail article, which as usual has a great deal of detail and photos. From that article, here is another link many FReepers will want to know about:

Chad’s former colleagues at Sky Power Sports have set up a Facebook page to raise money for Nicole and Lexy. It can be seen at
www.facebook.com/chadoulsonfamilyfund

149 posted on 01/18/2014 8:28:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde

The cop will be convicted as he should be.

The end.


151 posted on 01/18/2014 8:44:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Albion Wilde

Second that movie recommendation.


152 posted on 01/18/2014 8:46:14 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Albion Wilde

One man told a group of reporters that Reeves is a “Godly man” before walking away.

A television reporter trailed, microphone in hand. He had another question, but got no answer.

“How does a ‘Godly man,’” he asked, “pull a gun on someone in the theater and shoot him?”


153 posted on 01/18/2014 8:49:21 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Albion Wilde

This would explain why the guy might have been a bit testy and the shooter needed to look past his own narcissism.

This reminds me of the Zimmerman case. As facts come out, the open minded will migrate towards the actual likely truth of what happened there.

Still need more info...


154 posted on 01/18/2014 8:51:54 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: William Tell

This case illustrates perfectly the problem created by the Florida SYG law, to the extent that it overturns English Common Law (I confess to being a common law nut).

By granting the shooter a legal presumption of reasonableness, it imposes on the fact-finder (judge or jury) the impossible task of figuring out how this street beef started and who was most responsible for the consequences.

If a deadly force encounter starts with your door kicked in at 3am, it’s easy. If it starts in a parking lot with the decedent having pulled a knife, it’s still easy. Those are both classic, straightforward self-defense.

But when it starts on the street or in a public place between complete strangers, “standing your ground” can be interpreted in a number of ways. If “standing your ground” escalates a confrontation to the point that deadly force becomes legal, it’s unwise. And if “standing your ground” PROVOKES deadly force, such provocation being reasonably foreseeable under common law rules, it should not be a shield from prosecution.

I believe (Floridians correct me if I’m wrong) that the simple fact of Reeves telling the police that he felt endangered makes it a requirement that he not be arrested.


155 posted on 01/18/2014 8:52:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Man who murdered neighbors over doggy doo sentenced to life in prison



157 posted on 01/18/2014 8:56:23 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

One wonders in this case why they couldn’t have just switched apartments.


158 posted on 01/18/2014 9:09:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Uncle Chip said: "... and taken his gun out and put it on his lap just in case."

Somebody throwing popcorn into another's face IS an assault. It's a crime.

Showing a firearm without justification is a crime just like throwing objects into somebody's face.

Why do you describe the ex-cop as standing during the attack? Is that in the evidence?

Others have suggested that the tickets were sold with assigned seating. Was that the case?

Why did the wife end up with a gunshot wound to her hand? What did she think was going to happen which caused her to attempt to physically restrain her husband?

159 posted on 01/18/2014 9:09:27 AM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell
Somebody throwing popcorn into another's face IS an assault. It's a crime.

Then call the police and report the crime -- and get laughed at.

It is also a crime to take the law into your own hands. A retired cop should know that.

Showing a firearm without justification is a crime just like throwing objects into somebody's face.

Ohhh so then it's better to shoot it then rather than just hold it??? Really!!!

Why do you describe the ex-cop as standing during the attack? Is that in the evidence?

I assume that he had to be in a standing position to take the gun out of his pocket -- unless he already had it out on his lap or in his hand.

Others have suggested that the tickets were sold with assigned seating. Was that the case?

Probably not in a theatre of 25 that holds 120+ in an afternoon matinee.

Why did the wife end up with a gunshot wound to her hand?

She might have seen the gun in the nutcase's hand and tried to protect her husband by trying to push it away while at the same time pulling him out of the way.

160 posted on 01/18/2014 9:25:36 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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