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Obama: Marijuana 'not very different' from cigarettes
Washington Examiner ^ | January 19, 2014 | Brian Hughes

Posted on 01/19/2014 11:07:30 AM PST by gusopol3

President Obama in an interview released Sunday said that using marijuana was not that different from smoking cigarettes nor any more dangerous than drinking alcohol.

“As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life,” Obama said as part of an extensive profile published by the New Yorker on Sunday. “I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol.”

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A heavy equipment operator with a lengthy rap sheet who is accused of being high on marijuana when a downtown building collapsed onto a thrift store, killing six people, surrendered Saturday to face charges in the deaths, police said.http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sean-benschop-equipment-operator-in-philadelphia-building-collapse-probe-surrenders/

Strangely enough, Mr. President, when the news came out about this tragedy, it wasn't mentioned whether he were smoking a cigarette.

1 posted on 01/19/2014 11:07:30 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Aren’t they banning e-cigarettes only because they confuse the cigarette nazis?


2 posted on 01/19/2014 11:15:53 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: gusopol3

LOL this is a joke right ??


3 posted on 01/19/2014 11:19:43 AM PST by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia" By Paypal)
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To: gusopol3
Obama in an interview released Sunday said that using marijuana was not that different from smoking cigarettes

What kind of cigarettes was he smoking?
4 posted on 01/19/2014 11:20:06 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: gusopol3

Obviously, the more logical comparison would be to ask if he was drunk.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 11:21:02 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: gusopol3
A heavy equipment operator with a lengthy rap sheet...

There's your problem right there (and his photo). Using that as an excuse to ban marijuana bears logical similarity to banning guns for the law abiding because criminals misuse them.

6 posted on 01/19/2014 11:21:48 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gusopol3

I thought is was horrific when Clinton via the Lewinsky scandal introduced and condoned oral sex, a form of sodomy, to our youth, but now we have Obama encouraging the youth to break laws and smoke pot.

Furthermore, he gives them the false impression that pot is as harmless as alcohol.

He will destroy many teen lives, just like Clinton.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 11:22:45 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: gusopol3

The Pot has affected his pea size brain.

I live in the UP of Michigan medical marijuana is taking over the area. You go outside now and the distinctive odor of what is similar to a dead skunk is the preponderant odor. I cleaned off my roof of snow and nearly fell out of my wheelchair because of the odor was captured in the snow. Just found I have 7 neighbors whom use medical marijuana.

What a stench!


8 posted on 01/19/2014 11:22:54 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: expatguy

Unless you’re a contractor with a wrongful death suit filed against you.


9 posted on 01/19/2014 11:23:01 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: expatguy

Drug-addled little barry bastard boy can no longer tell any difference, expect when the first wookie slams him for droppin’ out.


10 posted on 01/19/2014 11:24:13 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Girlene

Obama is weighing in on this, why???

Why did he weigh in on the Washington Redskins name being offensive? To prove that he’s liberal on a certain issue?

Is he trying to prove that he is liberal/libertarian on marijuana?

Is this going to be a topic in the State of the Union?


11 posted on 01/19/2014 11:24:13 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Guns are the second amendment, I forget which amendment is the pot amendment.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 11:24:37 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Approval rating for Obama 40%; approval rating for marijuana 50%; you gotta hitch your wagon to a star.


13 posted on 01/19/2014 11:26:26 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3
I forget which amendment is the pot amendment.

Me, too, LOL. I knew you'd come back with that!

14 posted on 01/19/2014 11:28:56 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gusopol3

Pot isn’t mentioned in the Constitution at all. So, technically, the government has no right to outlaw it. Just the states, under the 10th.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”


15 posted on 01/19/2014 11:29:29 AM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: gusopol3

Dude’s got quite the hairdo.


16 posted on 01/19/2014 11:31:02 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: gusopol3

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sean-benschop-equipment-operator-in-philadelphia-building-collapse-probe-surrenders/

Making your link clickable — I haven’t looked at it yet


17 posted on 01/19/2014 11:35:26 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: christx30

OK by me, you line up with Obama on this one; his endorsement will likely move state initiatives along rapidly, just as it did for gay marriage. Then you get to the Dred Scott effect where one state cannot exclude what is legal in another, and the Holder DOJ will stand back and let it go.


18 posted on 01/19/2014 11:35:58 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: F15Eagle

Thanks, it’s an old article, just one with some notoriety.


19 posted on 01/19/2014 11:36:39 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Brave New World needs its Soma


20 posted on 01/19/2014 11:37:08 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: gusopol3

2ndDivisionVet: Hillary Clinton and Chris Christie ‘not very different’ from Barack Obama.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 11:37:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: expatguy

The quotes are all about him (as usual) so its probably real.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by Starboard
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To: gusopol3

LOL, you don’t want to go there. Statistics for marijuana show it to be so far safer than alcohol or guns or even aspirin, that you’d be laughed out of the discussion.

But I will tell you where you can argue against marijuana - its effects on the brain development of children. Up to a certain point (late teens, I believe) it has a marked and measurable negative effect on all sorts of mental abilities, with associated negative emotional effects, from apathy to panic attacks.

After the brain reaches physical maturity, those negative effects drop off dramatically. But for kids and teens, marijuana is bad news.

On the other hand, for kids and teens, alcohol is bad news too - equally if not worse.

So there are deeper issues here than yes/no.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 11:40:04 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: expatguy

Once again, brilliance out of our Hahvahd magna, coolest dude, chuuum puffin’, smartest Prez EVAH!


24 posted on 01/19/2014 11:40:14 AM PST by matginzac
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To: christx30

Wha?


25 posted on 01/19/2014 11:42:04 AM PST by matginzac
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To: gusopol3

So add all the crap caused by dopers on the road, etc. with all the drinkers and we have Nirvana, right?
And I thought inhaling anything other than God-given clean air was not the lib tard, greeny-ac way?


26 posted on 01/19/2014 11:44:47 AM PST by matginzac
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To: gusopol3

Obvious follow up questions:

When did you stop smoking marijuana?

At what age was the last time you smoked it?


27 posted on 01/19/2014 11:45:21 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: Talisker

I’m kind of a clown, so I don’t mind being laughed at. So at what point does employability become a part of the rubric? If somebody on the job has a BAL and there’s an accident, they need a mighty fine lawyer. Yet they can be rip-roaring drunk the night before, it’s no issue. On the other hand, well, you know wht\at I’m going to say.


28 posted on 01/19/2014 11:51:18 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

That guy looks a bit like an older Jimi Hendrix .. had he not died of an overdose and suffocating on his own vomit. Ah drugs .. what a glorious life.


29 posted on 01/19/2014 11:52:06 AM PST by plain talk
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To: savedbygrace

I think he was “a kid” until a couple years after law school. shucks, he’s young at heart even now.


30 posted on 01/19/2014 11:52:51 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Cowboy Bob
"Aren’t they banning e-cigarettes only because they confuse the cigarette nazis?"

Here's a thought: e-cigs should be manufactured in the shape of a joint (or whatever it is called nowadays)- fat at the center and skinny at the ends. Vapist must hold this between thumb and index. The vap scent must be appropriate also. Cigarette problem solved.

31 posted on 01/19/2014 11:57:38 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: gusopol3

In 1916, even though there was a huge temperance movement that wanted alcohol banned, there was a general agreement that the FedGov had not been granted the power in the Constitution to do so; thus arose the Prohibition Constitutional Amendment process.

However, by 1936, while a Constitutional Amendment was being ratified to nullify Prohibition, Congress was passing laws to regulate and prohibit the manufacture and use of drugs without permission from the FDA ... with no outcry that the FedGov was not granted this power in the Constitution.

Twenty years ... one generation ... is all it took to loosen the chains that limited the FedGov power.


32 posted on 01/19/2014 11:58:00 AM PST by Mack the knife
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To: gusopol3

On this one issue, I agree with him. Marijuana should not be illegal. People are going to do it whatever it is or not. All we accomplish by keeping it illegal is filling up our for-profit prison systems with non-violent drug offenders, which makes them harder criminals. We get crap like asset forfeiture which means that cops can take your money or property without charging you with a crime. We lose liberties. It does WAY more harm than good.
If it’s legal, companies can still do piss tests and not hire pot heads. My fiance was nearly turned down for a job because they said she had alcohol in her system (She’s diabetic, and the ketones in her urine mimiced alcohol).
People can refuse to hire for any reason.


33 posted on 01/19/2014 12:01:58 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: gusopol3

Well that all comes under impairment. Whether alcohol, marijuana, or a police dispatcher who bought shoes that are too tight and as a result missed a call because they were rubbing their toes, an employee has a personal responsibility to be in a safe state of mind - and an employer has a responsibility to require it in a meaningful way. But that doesn’t mean that the particular thing that caused the impairment should be illegal per se.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 12:07:01 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

I’d be the first to say smoking your last joint two weeks ago is unlikely to have any bearing on your mental acuity today. However, the test still is positive. I guess if somebody can afford to take a few days-weeks off intermittently, it’s ok for the President of the U.S. to tell him marijuana is no different from cigarettes.


35 posted on 01/19/2014 12:14:06 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

Who is he kidding?


36 posted on 01/19/2014 12:23:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: gusopol3

Yep, the test would be positive after the high wore off. But certain alcohol indicators would be present after the drunk wore off, too. So it would be a matter of which test was used, and how, etc.

Obviously, things people ingest or do in order to escape the stress of daily life, are going to be antithetical to the duties of the very daily life they are trying to escape. So I’m not saying that misuse can occur. But if a more accepting approach to drugs was made, rather than kicking in doors and shooting people over them, then maybe better testing methods could not only be developed, but accepted by the population.

Fact of the matter is that alcohol poses a devastating counter-argument to the drug war. Few drugs are as damaging as alcohol, but it’s legal and common. That contradiction should have knocked any drug war laws clean out of the box. That it didn’t means that the legal problem is way bigger than the drug problem.


37 posted on 01/19/2014 12:30:28 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Oliviaforever
He will destroy many teen lives, just like Clinton

Clinton's perversions set the state for the rise of gay marriage.

Kids were taught that sex was the only thing you could lie about in court, character didn't matter, and BJ's were not sex so could be practiced in abandon.

Clinton also was largely responsible for 9/11 because he weakened the military with DADT, appeasement of N. Korea, ignoring the '93 WTC bombing and the Somalia disaster though this is NEVER spoken about anymore.

38 posted on 01/19/2014 12:32:27 PM PST by what's up
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To: Cowboy Bob

Well it is pretty much verboten to smoke cigarettes anywhere in public today,so why the hell is the idiot President comparing the two,all I have heard for the past 50 years is how bad cigarettes are for you even just the second hand smoke ,now all 0f a sudden it’s,what’s the big deal?


39 posted on 01/19/2014 12:33:07 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: gusopol3

Pot smoking = OK.

Eating potatoes in school = Not OK.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 12:34:15 PM PST by what's up
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To: gusopol3

Obama can be a poster child for why it is called “DOPE”.


41 posted on 01/19/2014 12:34:48 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Girlene
What kind of cigarettes was he smoking?

Maybe he never gave up MJ and thinks that's the normal mental state.
42 posted on 01/19/2014 12:39:16 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: freekitty

Now we know what the acronym POTus stands for.


43 posted on 01/19/2014 12:45:37 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Cowboy Bob

I always wondered why, in SF, you can freely walk the streets and parks smoking pot, but if you smoke tobacco that is a no-no.


44 posted on 01/19/2014 12:59:25 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: gusopol3
Neither are cocaine or heroin, are they Barry?
45 posted on 01/19/2014 1:04:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: gusopol3

I thought it was an addictive gate-way drug? That’s what they’ve been telling us for the last 50 years isn’t it?


46 posted on 01/19/2014 1:09:15 PM PST by Beowulf9
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DO TELL! Ok- lets go with that( it’s a lie, but what the hell). Pot is no different than tobacco- and we know tobacco is BAD for you, and we will prevent you from smoking it in public, in the open, in your home! We want what’s best for you so you will be taxed and hounded if you dare smoke tobacco....OR POT! Isn’t that how it’s going to work- or does the government only care about the health of tobacco smokers? Do they want pot smokers to DIE???


47 posted on 01/19/2014 1:11:29 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: gusopol3

That’s no different than an alcoholic drinking while at work. Same crime, Same shame.

Responsible people just aren’t going to get high before or at work. Just like responsible people don’t get drunk or drink while at work.

Think about this ... It’s just like responsible people not running out and amassing personal armories and then going out and killing a bunch of school kids.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 1:25:23 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Beowulf9

When someone smokes marijuna it alters their consciousness such that when you are driving a car down the road you see 4 sets of headlights coming at them. You do not know which set to dodge. If your child is in a car coming at that ‘smoker’ do you want a 3,000 pound car hurtling at them? Smoking tobacco does not do this. Both will cause emphysema, vascular disease, cancer, etc. It is best to avoid both….well,……yea.


49 posted on 01/19/2014 1:27:55 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Usagi_yo

Responsible people continue to test positive for pot weeks after their last joint. Responsible employers have every reason not to hire them or to fire them.Irresponsible drinkers test negative for alcohol 12 hours after their last drink. Responsible employers have no grounds to fire them or to fail to hire them.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 1:47:14 PM PST by gusopol3
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