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1914 -- The West Starts Dying
American Thinker ^ | 3/6/2014 | Mike Konrad

Posted on 03/06/2014 8:07:07 AM PST by Sioux-san

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To: dblshot

This many years later, it still brings me to tears to think what my forefathers went through, and what we’ve done with the freedom they went and died for.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 9:34:09 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Defiant

It was finally the Canadians who invented a moving artillery barrage, that ended that warfare. They fired a barrage ahead of the advancing infantry, so that when the barrage ended and the Germans would now get ready for them to cover over the top, they were already on top of them.

That’s how Canadians took Vimy when nobody else could.


42 posted on 03/06/2014 9:36:29 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Sioux-san

I would argue that giving women the right to vote has also had quite an impact on the death of the West, as women DO think differently from men. This has impacted our leadership and the direction of society from the hard to the flaccid. Would like to see an objective study on the effects of that. No historian will touch that though.


43 posted on 03/06/2014 9:41:42 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Sioux-san

One guy who has obviously read this stuff with serious intentions is Vladimir Putin, who has also determined that Russia is not going to participate in any further such suicidal activities.


44 posted on 03/06/2014 9:45:55 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Albion Wilde
Sounds like a good book. Along the lines of Hayek's Road to Serfdom.
45 posted on 03/06/2014 9:56:31 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: JimSEA
Most analysis of the decline of the West leave out the important fact that the seeds of its destruction were nurtured within Western Civilization itself. Marx didn’t emerge from the jungles of Borneo, he was part in parcel of 19th century Europe and the Industrial Revolution. Mao sprang more from the West than from Chinese culture which he worked diligently to destroy. Pol Pot adsorbed communism in Paris, not in Siam Reap.

A most astute and important observation.

46 posted on 03/06/2014 10:09:21 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: GraceG

Tied to the 1913 adoption of amendments 16 (income tax) and 17 (direct election of senators).


47 posted on 03/06/2014 10:10:06 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: nathanbedford

As far as I can assess, in college these days, every aspect of Western culture/civilization is explained through every conceivable negative dynamic of race.


48 posted on 03/06/2014 10:12:08 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg
Hence Nathan Bedford's first Maxim.


49 posted on 03/06/2014 10:14:16 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: boxlunch
As a woman, I am ashamed to admit, but I believe giving the vote to women just increased the pace, as even more liberal women hounded their husbands to take up liberal stances because of their emotional feelings of guilt. I think men who were not really one way or the other in moral character, maybe weren’t true socialists, might have been talked into or bullied by their wives to support certain causes in politics, the schools, etc so that the wives could attend the ‘cool’ social gatherings.

It is true that the initial movement for women's suffrage was extremely radical, in the vein of radical abolitionism, "free love," etc. However things changed when Black men were given the right to vote while women were not. After that woman's suffrage began to be pushed as a way to increase the white vote at the expense of the Black vote. For an example of this phenomenon, please see the case of Alma White, the self-proclaimed "bishop" of her own church.

There was also another conservative element to the later woman suffrage movement. This was from the perception that women are inherently more religious and more moral than men. The early women's rights groups were very conservative socially, blaming exclusive male rule for social sin and claiming that the country was really ruled from the taverns. Hence these people were anti-liquor, anti-prostitution, etc. (just as the early twentieth century KKK was). One of the oldest proto-"feminist" organizations in the country is the Woman's Christian Temperance Union (which is still around). It mixed a conservative and moralistic opposition to liquor with such "progressive" causes as women's rights and world peace. And the Prohibition Party (which is also still around in two separate organizations) mixed women's rights and other "progressive" positions with its own moralistic anti-liquor position.

Political ideology is a complex thing and some movements simply can't be understood in terms of contemporary ideology or alliances.

50 posted on 03/06/2014 10:24:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Thank you. I knew a little about the women’s temperance movement but did not realize it was aligned with the women’ suffrage movement. Very interesting insight.


51 posted on 03/06/2014 11:38:10 AM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: boxlunch
Thank you. I knew a little about the women’s temperance movement but did not realize it was aligned with the women’ suffrage movement.

It wasn't just aligned, it was coextensive with it. The two were the same.

Both the WCTU and the Prohibition Party were considered "progressive" in their day due to the stands they took on suffrage, labor, and world peace issues. Nowadays both organizations are considered "conservative" because of their social positions.

52 posted on 03/06/2014 12:24:32 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: PapaNew

Yes, I get depressed when I am not thinking Biblically, but humanly. When I expect that the sweet times of early America should have kept going on forever, that I wish I could turn the clock back to little house on the prairie days (books not TV show :) ), or Mayberry RFD, small towns where children could run down to the drugstore for a soda without fear. Those were idealized, and of course they had big problems then, too, and not all people were true Christians, but I do remember feeling like our community was similar to that when I was very young.

But when I read the Bible, and especially Revelations, I get more in tune with reality and don’t feel so sad and frustrated, and expecting that golden time to come back, unless it is in God’s providence and mercy. I loved your last sentences, and of course that’s where I try to be most of the time. I can’t dwell on what’s lost but rest in the Lord’s peace and grace and try to glorify Him in obedience.


53 posted on 03/06/2014 1:03:40 PM PST by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: Sioux-san

The Syrian conquest, capture and dispersion of Israel. That’s where it all started.


54 posted on 03/06/2014 1:08:23 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: boxlunch
I also long for the freedoms from government that early America enjoyed. But as much as I love America, I have to realize that it has always been an miraculous gift from God to us and really to the whole world - anyone who wants to be free can come and it shines as a standard for the rest of the world to follow. We have been so blessed to be in this historically exceptional country, rare indeed in the history of man.

But I must trust the Lord in these last days, knowing that as his glory shines in us, the world gets darker (Isaiah 60:1-2). I know God wants to bless people - he certainly loves the world (John 3:16) - but he has much better and greater things in store for us and therefore at some point must make the necessary movers to "clear the decks" so to speak.

So my challenge has been to let go of America as the source of my security and happiness and rather embrace the Lord who is the source of all that has been good in America. As good as America has been and still is, God is so much better. This is God working on my heart away from trusting man to only trusting the Lord. So God is turning our hearts towards home. And in the meantime we fight and care for what's right, bless others, and let his light shine, but our eyes, as Jehoshaphat said, are on Him.

55 posted on 03/06/2014 1:45:36 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: blueunicorn6

The Great War was a Cannae per week for over 200 weeks.


56 posted on 03/09/2014 3:41:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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