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The Walking Dead Discussion Thread: Season 4 Episode 14 [SPOILER warning]
N/A | March 16, 2014 | N/A

Posted on 03/16/2014 1:43:07 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction



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KEYWORDS: thewalkingdead; walkingdead
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To: CatherineofAragon

So what do you think is waiting for us at the Terminus?

Is it the real Governor of Georgia’s mansion? High-gated and hardened with aircraft and artillery?

Speculation upthread, it’s in Macon.


151 posted on 03/16/2014 9:39:41 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: driftdiver

If Rick was trying to help her, why didn’t he just tell her they both
would keep it to themselves. After all Rick killed Shane to protect himself.
Carol killed two to protect the group.


152 posted on 03/16/2014 9:42:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I think you’re right. There’s no reason for him to hang around because he wants to find his friends.


153 posted on 03/16/2014 9:42:15 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: txhurl

I bet that was funny.

Reminds me of years ago, when a lot of music artist got together to do
one of the “We are the World” records. Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings
were there to participate until Stevie Wonder wanted to do a verse in
Swahili, an African language. An article written about the recording session
mentioned that when Nelson and Jennings heard about Wonder’s idea
of doing a verse in Swahili, they both promptly left the recording session,
never to return,


154 posted on 03/16/2014 9:50:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: laplata

Daryl actually trapped Jim’s group, insinuated himself into it to take them all out and then get back to finding everybody else. He sat himself down in the road all ‘boo hoo’ to attract them to him.


155 posted on 03/16/2014 9:52:42 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

Maybe.


156 posted on 03/16/2014 9:58:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: txhurl
"So what do you think is waiting for us at the Terminus?

Is it the real Governor of Georgia’s mansion? High-gated and hardened with aircraft and artillery?"

I've seen speculation that it's going to be VERY bad, indeed. A trap, of sorts.

157 posted on 03/16/2014 10:04:32 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Nooooooooooo.... I can’t take anymore. I’ll just have to watch the discussion thread for what happened.


158 posted on 03/16/2014 10:08:09 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txhurl

No, you have to watch, LOL! We need to see our peeps’ reunion!

I’m heading off to bed now....will check the thread tomorrow. Night, y’all.


159 posted on 03/16/2014 10:15:06 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: TomGuy

or perhaps LIZZIE BORDEN =)


160 posted on 03/16/2014 10:25:44 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: ConjunctionJunction

The way this is going. We should have an “All You Can Eat Buffet” =)


161 posted on 03/16/2014 10:36:06 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: CatherineofAragon

ROFL


162 posted on 03/16/2014 10:45:09 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Add me please.


163 posted on 03/16/2014 11:04:01 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: ConjunctionJunction
I saw a post on another site by a fan of TWD who remarked after watching the latest EP:

"I think Carol needs to go to Washington and show ‘em all the flowers..."

Damn, that shit is cold…

164 posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: TADSLOS

What an intense episode. Wow. On a side note, does anyone think the fire they saw was the house that Daryl and Beth burned down?


165 posted on 03/17/2014 2:43:35 AM PDT by Revelation Concepts
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To: Revelation Concepts

Yes, that certainly came to mind and all the fragmented survivors seem to be in the same general area.


166 posted on 03/17/2014 3:43:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: CatherineofAragon

It should be noted that Lizzie was just about to kill Judith until Carol said that she couldn’t even walk yet.....


167 posted on 03/17/2014 3:54:40 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

What a magnificent episode!!
This is what makes, and keeps, this show popular, IMHO-the viewer has NO IDEA what’s coming next, unless you’ve read the comics, which I have not done..I bet after this episode, sales of the comix will go through the roof.
I like to think that if I were in a similar situation, I would have done what Carol did-but it’s sure hard to wrap my head around that thought!!
Just damn. Just damn.


168 posted on 03/17/2014 7:04:38 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: Shimmer1
And you’re on this thread because........????????

Glutton for punishment, I guess. Absorbing a little "bullying" is a good thing from time to time- helps keep the skin thick!

;^)

169 posted on 03/17/2014 7:05:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: wanderin

Added!


170 posted on 03/17/2014 7:42:35 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Mad Dawgg

Wow! That is cold!


171 posted on 03/17/2014 7:43:14 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Radagast the Fool

I have read the comics, and the writers for the TV show like to change things up all the time to keep us guessing!


172 posted on 03/17/2014 7:47:59 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Revelation Concepts

Yes, I think the crispy walkers had probably been burned by Daryl and Beth’s fire. Daryl and Beth were really close to Tyreese and the kids on the first day, so I don’t think they were all that far apart.


173 posted on 03/17/2014 7:51:32 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=103339227187314601354.000496a3cdd937ab6cb68&ll=33.632916,-84.201965&spn=1.200565,1.175537&z=10&dg=feature


174 posted on 03/17/2014 8:24:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Pretty cool map! Those are filming locations, though, aren’t they? I would think that some of the fictional locations would be closer together. Also, it kind of looks like most of the characters are heading towards Terminus, which appears to be Macon, so they should be heading east & south.


175 posted on 03/17/2014 8:38:14 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Mad Dawgg

Drove cross country with wife and kids last summer. Made a stop out of Senoia. Very cool to see the real town, along with the WD set pieces (The City Hall is a facade, the barrier busses are parked in a nearby lot). Ate in a nice cafe that was used for a scene.


176 posted on 03/17/2014 8:52:28 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"It should be noted that Lizzie was just about to kill Judith until Carol said that she couldn’t even walk yet....."

She deserves an award for quick thinking on her feet!

177 posted on 03/17/2014 9:03:51 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: be-baw

“Look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers”

The way Carol kept repeating herself you would think that at some point Lizzie would think, “Why does she keep telling me to look at the damn flowers?”.


178 posted on 03/17/2014 9:31:56 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
`She deserves an award for quick thinking on her feet!

I think in real life, separate from TWD, that episode had to have an impact on Tyreese and Carol........The only thing I can think of that came close to what was done was when Ol' Yeller had to be killed.....

179 posted on 03/17/2014 9:41:33 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

I didn’t realize how much Lizzie was out to lunch. Rationality wasn’t her strong suit. I was wondering if and how the girls were going to be written out. Never expected that scenario.


180 posted on 03/17/2014 9:51:31 AM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: McGruff

“I didn’t realize how much Lizzie was out to lunch. Rationality wasn’t her strong suit. I was wondering if and how the girls were going to be written out. Never expected that scenario.”

I think Lizzie would have been more likely to feed herself to the Z’s or kill herself to make her point rather than kill her sister. But crazy is by definition unpredictable. It was pretty shocking, like the Red wedding on Game of Thrones.


181 posted on 03/17/2014 10:05:56 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Although not a TV Show, I recall Bruce Willis character in the movie
“Looper” killing a child thinking that child was the “rainmaker”.


182 posted on 03/17/2014 10:31:49 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: cripplecreek
On second thought, maybe Lizzie isn’t the best sitter for Judith.

LOL...best laugh of the day, post of the night!

183 posted on 03/17/2014 10:43:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"I think in real life, separate from TWD, that episode had to have an impact on Tyreese and Carol........The only thing I can think of that came close to what was done was when Ol' Yeller had to be killed...."

I agree. I think Melissa McBride even said something to that effect on Talking Dead last night. "Hard" is a word that doesn't even begin to describe it.

You know, upthread I said Carol was tough, but she isn't a robot. She does what she believes has to be done, but look at what she's been through. She not only lost her own daughter, she saw one of her "adopted" daughters murdered in cold blood, and shot the other one in the head. I wonder if she can bear all of this without crumbling.

184 posted on 03/17/2014 11:22:25 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I'm still marveling at the brilliance of last night's episode and the range of emotions it put its characters and the rest of us thru.

The night before, when we saw them gathered safe in the farmhouse, a kerosene lamp on the table, Tyreese asleep in the chair, Mika playing with her new doll on the floor, talk about maybe staying there for the duration (even tho we know that wouldn't happen) that was the closest they had come to safety and normalcy since the apocalypse.

Then the final scene when Carol and Tyreese were walking away was absolutely heart wrenching........

185 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:12 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And towards the beginning of the episode when they said they could live there. Towards the end of the episode they said they couldn’t live there after what had happened.

:(


186 posted on 03/17/2014 12:13:52 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: CatherineofAragon
And as a side note, this is likely the only event that could have elicited Tyreese's forgiveness of Carol for having killed Karen and David..........Carol is carrying a horrendous burden now and Tyreese knows it.

Just Wow.........

187 posted on 03/17/2014 12:20:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: TomGuy
I could list a dozen shows I won’t watch because their premises are just too silly.

Me, too!

NBC Nightly News CBS Evening News ABC World News etc.

188 posted on 03/17/2014 12:20:13 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I wonder if she can bear all of this without crumbling.

My take of the scene were she pushes the pistol across the table ,she didn't want to shoot herself.

189 posted on 03/17/2014 12:21:52 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: ConjunctionJunction
Thanks for the ping

I really liked the character lizzie dammit I'm going miss her.

Glad Carol is still there though, and someone had to send lizzie in for repairs...

Last night's show was terrific!
190 posted on 03/17/2014 12:26:18 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Hot Tabasco

One of the most poignant scenes was when Tyreese looked around and said in a marveling tone, “I’m in a living room.”

I need to call my sister-in-law and find out if she and her husband ever got caught up to this season. They thought TWD was some silly horror show, but they happened to see an episode, got hooked, and went on a binge of watching seasons 1-3. They say it’s the best show they’ve ever watched....when they see last night’s ep, they’ll appreciate it.


191 posted on 03/17/2014 3:05:26 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"And as a side note, this is likely the only event that could have elicited Tyreese's forgiveness of Carol for having killed Karen and David..........Carol is carrying a horrendous burden now and Tyreese knows it.

Just Wow........."

Yeah, it's like they said on Talking Dead, if Carol had confessed to Tyreese when they were out walking, as she ALMOST did, he would have reacted differently. Yvette Nicole Brown said she was yelling, "Don't do it, girl! Don't do it!" LOL

192 posted on 03/17/2014 3:07:35 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: piroque
"My take of the scene were she pushes the pistol across the table ,she didn't want to shoot herself."

Do you think she was resigned to it either way? I got the impression she wouldn't have protested if Tyreese decided to kill her.

193 posted on 03/17/2014 3:09:59 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: piroque
My take of the scene were she pushes the pistol across the table ,she didn't want to shoot herself.

I think she gave up all hope of her humanity and put her life on the table by enabling Tyreese to be her judge, jury and executioner.........

194 posted on 03/17/2014 3:10:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Hot Tabasco

My take of Tyreese standing at the window,he was in on the execution .


195 posted on 03/17/2014 4:42:11 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque

I agree; he understood there was no other way.


196 posted on 03/17/2014 4:44:06 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

My sons step-kids got hooked a couple months ago and had to buy the series tapes.


197 posted on 03/17/2014 4:47:16 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Okay. I’m FINALLY getting around to watching this one. I’ll comment as I watch:

Excellent opening. Is Beth playing tag with a walker?!?!
Oh, good LORD! Lizzy’s calling Carol, “Ma’am?!”
Carol: “She doesn’t have a mean bone in her body.” ——UH-OH!!
Holy CRAP! The look that Mica got from Lizzie when Mica said, “You’re not even grossed out by Dead Rabbits!”
(I guess we now know who was dissecting the vermin at the prison)
Lizzie: “Sometimes we HAVE to kill them. I know that. But, sometimes we don’t.” Straight from Hershell’s lips when he and Carl were out looking for plants at the prison.
(And, I’m looking at Mica’s handgun, trying to guess what kind it is. I am SUCH a gun nut!!)
Come ON, MICA!! SHOOT it in the HEAD!!
O-o-o-okay? “Look at the flowers, Lizzie?! Yup. She’s going into Crazytown...
“Priselda Gunderson??” Are you nuts, Mica? Name that doll something a bit more casual. Like, say, “Adreanna Botswannah Hugginsworth?”
Holy CRAP!! That was LIZZIE playing tag with that walker?!
(And, at 17:09 in this episode, the look on Carol’s face says, “I have created a MONSTER!”
AWWWWWW! Mica looks so CUTE leveling that rifle on their dinner!
“We can stay. We can live here.” Yeah..
“Coach says this now, but when he finds out that Carol exterminated his love interest...
(I call him, “Coach,” because he played the character of, “Coach,” in the Left 4 Dead 2 videogame)
Holy CARP! It’s LIZZIE feeding the walkers! I’ll bet she votes for Obummer, too!
Oh, come ON, LIZZIE!! Throw yourself on those smoldering walkers coming after you!
Nice Walker Extermination scene there!
Carol: “Ya know? We have A LOT of pecans here.” Yeah! Because Mica didn’t shoot that FREAKIN’ DEER!!
DAMN! Lizzie draws faster on Carol and Tyreese that I could have!
(Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but is Lizzie holding Carol and Tyreese with a Beretta PX4 Storm?)
Carol? You have created a monster...
NO!! MICA!!! I’m going to miss her!
Yup! Lizzie was feeding the walkers at the prison fence. I KNEW it!!
Carol: “Just look at the flowers, Lizzie......BANG!”
WOW!!
Carol created that monster. Carol had to destroy it.
again....HOLY CARP!! Carol fessed up about Karen and David!!
Tyreese is a bigger man. He is AWESOME!
Carol is forgiven.

Pretty good episode, but they need to ramp it up a bit more.


198 posted on 03/17/2014 4:58:30 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: RandallFlagg

You pretending you’re the host of TTD?........LOL!


199 posted on 03/17/2014 5:08:24 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: cripplecreek
I have a lot of R-S-P-E-C-T for Rick sending Carol away. I think he killed 2 stones with one bird. On the surface it was as he said, he didn't want her around after what she did, but I think he also saved her life and her reputation. Tyreese would have killed her in a rage.

So I just watched the last 2 episodes back to back.

Tyreese was able to forgive her after seeing her strength of character, conviction and sense of justice.

I have loads of respect for Tyreese!

Also..UGH! Horrible series of events.

Back to Daryl. He proved himself a badass and was allowed to join the sociopath group. I believe he will do some horrible things but will eventually come back from the abyss. He saw in Beth that there are genuinely good people in the world and he wants to be one despite his poor upbringing.

Look forward to the last 2 episodes and dread the inevitable cliff hanger and long interval with no show.

At least I can watch Falling Skies soon.

200 posted on 03/17/2014 6:16:23 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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