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California man swept out to sea during Sunday baptism
nydailynews ^ | March 31, 2014 | Joe Kemp

Posted on 03/31/2014 9:59:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.

A California man was feared dead after he was swept out to sea during a beach baptism on Sunday, officials said.

Benito Flores, 43, was helping his cousin — Pastor Maurigro Cervantes — perform the religious ceremony on a man at Guadalupe beach when a hellacious wave toppled the trio, KCOY-TV reported.

“A big wave came and took Benito,” Cervantes, of Jesus Christ Light of the Sky, told the news station.

“I tried to take him out. He was heavy and then another big wave came.” The current pulled Flores away from the shore at the Rancho Guadalupe Dunes Preserve — about 70 miles north of Santa Barbara — and hasn’t been seen since.

Rescue crews were expected to return to the scene on Monday to search for the missing man.

Cervantes told the Santa Maria Times that about 25 people were at the ceremony, which he said he performs about two or three times a year.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Religion
KEYWORDS: baptism
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To: JoeProBono

21 posted on 03/31/2014 11:40:28 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Steelfish

**Go to a local Catholic Church and be baptized by a real priest or better yet, a Franciscan monk.**

Better yet, a Jesuit...it’s the premium blessing and will have more standing. ;)


22 posted on 03/31/2014 11:48:24 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition


23 posted on 03/31/2014 11:55:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

My younger daughter did a beach baptism and the waves were really big that day. Thankfully there were no issues with anyone getting swept out to sea.


24 posted on 03/31/2014 12:17:03 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: JoeProBono

25 posted on 03/31/2014 12:20:20 PM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: fungoking

Forget the Greeks. Do what the early Christians did when they worshipped.


26 posted on 03/31/2014 12:22:54 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Shery

Maybe it’s not about being “more scriptural” and just a place that’s convenient. I live near the beach and there are no decent rivers or streams nearby. This place up near Santa Barbara may be the same way.


27 posted on 03/31/2014 12:23:50 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Steelfish
Forget the Greeks. Do what the early Christians did when they worshipped.

I'll stick with the biblical description of John the Baptist and Jesus....early enough?
28 posted on 03/31/2014 12:28:39 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: fungoking

Even better stick with his instructions to Peter.


29 posted on 03/31/2014 12:32:11 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: JoeProBono
A s tragedy on what should be a joyful occasion. Buck up it could be worse, you could have worked with this line “I tried to take him out. He was heavy and then another big wave came.”
30 posted on 03/31/2014 12:38:22 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Daffynition


31 posted on 03/31/2014 12:47:35 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Steelfish

“Go to a local Catholic Church and be baptized by a real priest or better yet, a Franciscan monk.”

A real priest? So, would you have us to believe that Protestant ministers aren’t qualified to perform valid baptisms?

The validity of a baptism depends on the believer’s faith in God and his need to obey God’s commands (such as baptism as a requisite for salvation), not the “realness” of the person doing the baptism.

Just suppose that a “real” priest performed a baptism, and then later that day did some heinous act; was the baptism of the believer invalidated by the priest’s sinful act? No, of course not! The validity of baptism comes from the believer’s faith, not the priest’s authority.


32 posted on 03/31/2014 1:16:04 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: SamAdams76

Very moving post. I hadn’t thought about how my levity might be viewed by family members.


33 posted on 03/31/2014 2:41:26 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: JoeProBono

34 posted on 03/31/2014 3:32:44 PM PDT by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: TexasRepublic

The mandate was given not to any “pastor” but to Peter and his successors and the Church founded on the rock “Petrus” whose name was changed by Christ Himself.


35 posted on 03/31/2014 3:54:09 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: JoeProBono

Sprinkling is safer than dunking.


36 posted on 03/31/2014 6:22:07 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Steelfish

“Go to a local Catholic Church and be baptized...”

Yup, sprinkled with waters from the ‘Jordan’ or other holy water in the baptismal fount, just like John baptized Jesus...


37 posted on 03/31/2014 9:15:47 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard; JoeProBono

Hey, Blowhard, read the damn story. Joe quoted the story verbatim. Without comment...

Maybe someone can show up at one of your loved one’s funeral and be an insensitive Blowhard.


38 posted on 03/31/2014 9:22:51 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea; JoeProBono

Uh, JoeProBono did post it, but JOE KEMP wrote it.


39 posted on 03/31/2014 10:44:12 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: cyclotic

Why on earth would a minister perform baptism anywhere near such dangerous surf? Doesn’t sound like a real leader of a church.


40 posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:57 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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