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The Battle of Midway
Self | June 4, 2014 | Self

Posted on 06/04/2014 7:50:32 PM PDT by Retain Mike

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This year we will celebrate the 70th anniversary for D-Day, but as an old sailor I like to give equal time to the Battle of Midway which also occurred the first week in June two years earlier. However, I do have a write up for D-Day also.

Some of the sources are really great. Nimitz Graybook may be only accessable to USNI member, but here you get to see hard copies of actual orders.

1 posted on 06/04/2014 7:50:32 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

thanks to the author.


2 posted on 06/04/2014 8:00:05 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Retain Mike

Midway almost turned out to be a total catastrophe for the U.S. but ended as an incredible victory.

If not for those Dauntless dive bombers we would have lost everything.


3 posted on 06/04/2014 8:00:30 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Retain Mike

A BTT - ENS Gay had a front-row seat for the turning point in the Pacific war after every one of his VT-8 squadron mates including his rear gunner had died. When at last he died in 1994 he had his ashes scattered on that spot.


4 posted on 06/04/2014 8:05:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Admiral Nimitz was at my boot camp graduation. He was a very gracious man. By then he was a frail, old man in civvies. He wanted to stand around and shoot the breeze with us white hats but the brass kept trying to usher him away. He won! ;-)


5 posted on 06/04/2014 8:11:44 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: Retain Mike

One thing Midway showed us was that we had a lot to learn especially for the Army Air Force.

B-17s flying at 20,000 feet had little chance of hitting moving ships. I have seen video of German Condor bombers attacking a convoy and they were flying right at mast high. These were four engined bombers, not fighters and they were pretty slow yet they came right over the ships.

The other thing was that we needed much better planes, especially fighters tho a well flown Wildcat could do OK.


6 posted on 06/04/2014 8:18:27 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Billthedrill

Once witnessed a veteran of the Battle of the Bulge being told at ~age 85 that he had lung cancer and not very long to live. He just nodded. The doctor wanted to be sure he really had understood what had just been said. The man replied that he understood but explained that although he survived into old age, the best people he knew died young in Europe. He just stoically accepted the diagnosis. Truly a great man and a privilege to have known him. These noble veterans never forget and often haunting details and memories are known only to them.


7 posted on 06/04/2014 8:24:33 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Retain Mike

God intervened directly at Midway.


8 posted on 06/04/2014 8:28:20 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Retain Mike

Well done, appreciated.


9 posted on 06/04/2014 8:31:13 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Retain Mike

Probably one of the most important naval battles of the war.

If you ever get to Fredericksburg, Texas, be sure to check out the Nimitz Museum. (I think they may have changed the name but its the same place.)

Those Brewster Buffalos were a real POS.


10 posted on 06/04/2014 8:35:53 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Thank you for relating that story, and for your service to this Republic.


11 posted on 06/04/2014 8:38:36 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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The Greatest generation.


12 posted on 06/04/2014 8:45:00 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Retain Mike

Wow... great essay

I never really knew our planes were quite THAT antiquated


13 posted on 06/04/2014 8:45:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I don’t think I have ever heard of the Brewster Buffalo in all the things I have read about the war.


14 posted on 06/04/2014 8:47:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Billthedrill

I met Ensign Gay in late 70’s at an air show at Willow Grove NAS, PA. Being on bicycle at the time, I didn’t have enough cash to buy his book. But I got to shake his hand; a very proud moment for me.

But on the same day, a young boy entered a jet fighter cockpit and ejected himself. He passed away. His family seen him die. Still bothers me today because I witnessed his death. Can’t recall the outcome of the Naval investigation.


15 posted on 06/04/2014 8:47:20 PM PDT by Rodd OB (24 years in Simi Valley)
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To: smokingfrog

lol... Vindicator Dive Bombers were known as “Wind indicators”... lol


16 posted on 06/04/2014 8:52:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: smokingfrog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_F2A_Buffalo


17 posted on 06/04/2014 8:53:13 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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"It is my belief that any commander that orders pilots out for combat in F2A-3’s should consider them lost before leaving the ground”.

I believe the 'Buffalo' is the plane he's talking about.

18 posted on 06/04/2014 8:58:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I believe that it is called the “Museum of the Pacific War.” Lots of great things to see there, with a heavy concentration on Nimitz himself. A “can’t miss” for WW2 aficionados.


19 posted on 06/04/2014 9:02:31 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep, I went to the Wiki

they didn’t make it sound as bad as this article of course


20 posted on 06/04/2014 9:11:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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