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Crews Find Missing Firefighter Dead Near Fillmore [California]
CBSLA.com) ^ | June 27, 2014 3:40 PM

Posted on 06/27/2014 5:31:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin

A search for a firefighter ended Friday when Ventura County crews found Michael Herdman’s body, two weeks after he went missing in the Los Padres National Forest.

The off-duty firefighter was camping with fellow firefighter and paramedic Taylor Byars the night of June 13 when Herdman’s dog, Duke, ran from the camp site toward Sespe Creek.

The two men went after the dog and at one point decided to split up. Herdman, 36, was barefoot and wearing a shirt and shorts. Byars said that was the last time he saw his friend or the dog.

Byars says he searched the rugged terrain of the Sespe Wilderness for two days before reporting Herdman missing June 15.

A search was launched with crews from several rescue agencies, who scoured the region by air, on foot and with search dogs. Volunteers also joined the effort, which turned up footprints that officials suspected were Herdman’s. Rescuers say they saw Duke on two occasions, but the dog managed to evade capture.

Friends described the Arcadia firefighter as an avid hiker who had experience scaling the jagged terrain near Fillmore, an area so risky that several rescuers were injured in the process. Officials hoped Herdman’s hiking skills would ensure his survival.

But as the search dragged on, officials began to suspect Herdman had been seriously injured.

On Sunday, hikers found Duke. The dog was dehydrated after spending nine days in the intense sun and in high temperatures and was taken to a veterinarian for treatment.

That night officials announced they were scaling back search efforts.

It wasn’t until Friday that rescuers happened upon Herdman’s body in an area 1,200 feet above from his campsite.

During a news conference that afternoon, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said a medical examiner was working to determine the cause of death.

“It did not appear he had been trapped. It appeared he was laying over the terrain, partially covered by brush,” Dean said.

“There’s no indication whatsoever that there was foul play involved,” the sheriff said.


TOPICS: Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: herdman; michaelherdman; missing

1 posted on 06/27/2014 5:31:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

“On Sunday, hikers found Duke. The dog was dehydrated after spending nine days in the intense sun and in high temperatures and was taken to a veterinarian for treatment”

It’s a good thing the cops didn’t find Duke. This pit bull would have been shot.


2 posted on 06/27/2014 5:33:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: BenLurkin
“There’s no indication whatsoever that there was foul play involved,” the sheriff said.

Except the other guy's story stinks. What experienced hiker chases after his own dog in bare feet in the woods? Who waits 2 days to report a friend missing after losing them in the woods? Sounds like BS to me.

3 posted on 06/27/2014 5:35:46 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

Supposedly, the friend also was in bare feet when he made his way back to the trailhead.

Heard that somewhere — don’t know if its true.


4 posted on 06/27/2014 5:37:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Valpal1

And the firefighter was supposedly barefoot at the time..the story of his friends just stinks to high heaven, never bought the story


5 posted on 06/27/2014 5:37:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BenLurkin

So they both went chasing a dog in the woods in the dark in bare feet.

Are they gay and were they consuming shrooms dipped in LSD?

The. story. is. not. right.


6 posted on 06/27/2014 5:41:45 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: BenLurkin
They talked for an hour with David Paulides, author of 411?, a book about mysterious disappearances in our National Parks. About 35% are found alive. Many are very strange circumstances like this.

Odd he is found today but a good thing, sad as it is. The dog was too exhausted to lead them back in.

Paulides vouched that the other firefighter was above reproach but since the story is so strange, they will have to try to pump more info out of him.

Remember that seasoned climber of I think it was Mt. Ranier? They found her. She was in her 70's. What I didn't read in the news about that one is that she went on ahead of the others, came to a snow field and kept climbing much higher, not equipped to hike in the snow but did have survival gear with her.

I've listened to him before. I know there have been some murders in the parks. But there is something really eerie about some of the disappearances.

7 posted on 06/27/2014 5:43:29 PM PDT by Aliska
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Aliens?


8 posted on 06/27/2014 5:51:25 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: informavoracious
Aliens?

That's the last thing I want to believe. Put it this way. The author and Noory decided they wouldn't dismiss anything. Described 2 hunting experiences, one the author and one a caller. One Pacific Nw, other deep Missouri woods.

They described suddenly everything became totally still, animals were not to be seen and they felt like they were being watched. It just felt eerie. After awhile, things returned to normal.

I don't scare easily but I was scared at the end of that hour. I guess my theory has to do with the mind. Something suddenly takes hold of the mind and causes the individual to run off from the group as though driven.

One lady actually called in and asked if some particular victims were baptized. They ignored the question, finally just said one was a Christian.

Too many claim to have seen/experienced aliens. I haven't except in a dream that frightened me, and I hope they just leave me and mine alone.

The book author said the friend fireman went to the trailhead about a day and 1/2 and reported. This article says there was a longer delay.

One other thing. Many died from hypothermia; some have injuries and have to wait and hope, and some the cause of death cannot be determined.

9 posted on 06/27/2014 6:18:59 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

“I’ve listened to him before. I know there have been some murders in the parks. But there is something really eerie about some of the disappearances. “

I’ve read both of his “411” books. Eerie is a good word.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 6:28:32 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Aliska

Slender man?


11 posted on 06/27/2014 6:43:34 PM PDT by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Aliska
They described suddenly everything became totally still, animals were not to be seen and they felt like they were being watched. It just felt eerie.

Bigfoot. He's out there watching us, and he's more real than Obama's patriotism. :)

12 posted on 06/27/2014 6:46:15 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: BenLurkin

This is a shame, but not surprising. I hope there was no foul play, as others have mentioned, some things about this story don’t seem right.


13 posted on 06/27/2014 7:01:02 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PLMerite; informavoracious; Mr. Jeeves
PL, I guess I don't feel led to buy his books but am interested every time he's on the show. When I was younger, I probably would have gotten all his books and read them. They sound depressing to spend too much time on now. I found myself being very thankful that in family tragedies, at least we didn't have any like that, some where you don't know for a very long time or ever in this world what happened to your loved one..

info, good one, but he's a relatively new internet sensation I doubt would ever have appealed to me. But it's scary how kids can't separate an invented character and storyline from reality. What's the word now? Meme? The new jargon eludes me.

Mr. J, Bigfoot. I used to get so annoyed when that was the topic. But lately at least I've listened. I suppose there's a remote possibility it's some type of gorilla. I don't get excited about it but if I chanced to encounter one, I'd be frightened.

14 posted on 06/27/2014 7:07:55 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

The wilderness in CA is overrun with Mexican cartel grow ops. Mt. Ranier just kills people.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 8:29:53 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: BenLurkin
“There’s no indication whatsoever that there was foul play involved,” the sheriff said.

Partially covered with brush???

16 posted on 06/27/2014 9:17:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

I noticed that too, and figured it was just poor writing, and perhaps should be “partially hidden by brush”.

However, Bigfoots have been known to drag logs and brush to make their dens, so perhaps they cover their victims as well.


17 posted on 06/27/2014 9:33:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: PLMerite

The curse of the Lost Padre’s Mine-—anyone who gets too close will suffer a terrible accident and death. Blindness, snake bites, falls, sickness, and other mysterious deaths are reported! Since 1874 people have had problems seeking the lost gold mine of Mission San Buenaventura.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 3:34:33 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade
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To: BenLurkin
I've listened to Paulides several times.

The disappearances he talks about have no signs of foul play associated with them. Children are found miles away from where they could plausible walk on their own, up and over terrain that would be challenging for an adult. Tracking dogs often cannot find a scent to follow. The people found alive are either too young to describe what happened to them, or have no memory of it.

The circumstances are simply odd; Paulides isn't offering a theory.
19 posted on 06/28/2014 4:10:15 AM PDT by Nepeta
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