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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Why Soccer Will Never Be a Slam Dunk in America
TIME ^ | 07/01/2014 | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Posted on 07/02/2014 7:49:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry Kareem, soccer is no more tactical than lacrosse, field hockey, basketball, or ice hockey. The same concepts apply to all field team sports.

At least in lacrosse and hockey, you can hit the other team without a stupid red card.

And World Cup flopping is worse than even in the NBA.


21 posted on 07/02/2014 8:08:28 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Fiji Hill

The nothing to show for it claim is bogus.

In the Premier League, dropping two points is a big deal, because of the way the points system works, it takes three ties to equal one win. You have to know the context in which the game takes place.


22 posted on 07/02/2014 8:09:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Fiji Hill
By contrast, baseball games never end in ties.

Outside of the All-Star game.

23 posted on 07/02/2014 8:10:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd
Did I mention cheerleaders? Lots of them.
The New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers do fine without them.
24 posted on 07/02/2014 8:13:32 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Azeem

At least in soccer, supposedly flopping should get you at least a yellow card.


25 posted on 07/02/2014 8:14:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The best players play in England, Germany and Spain because teams in those leagues can pay the most to the players.

Also, quite a few players for the U.S. have duel citizenships, especially as sons of former American servicemen married to German women.


26 posted on 07/02/2014 8:14:22 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeekAndFind

When other sleep aids just won’t do the job turn on soccer. :-)


27 posted on 07/02/2014 8:14:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Soccer doesn’t need cheerleaders......one of the reason I love the Premier League is because of the crowd singing and chanting.


28 posted on 07/02/2014 8:14:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Ha! I always use the Olympics example too. Soccer doesn’t exist in this country as far as most americans are concerned - except as a young children’s sport.

I kinda like watching bits of it when in an Irish pub, but it’s part of the atmosphere. The only actual scores I see is when they are showing the highlights - and occasionally the guy in the back corner with his girlfriend...


29 posted on 07/02/2014 8:15:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not a Liverpool (I root for Tim Howard’s team) fan, but there’s nothing like the Kopites singing “You’ll Never Walk Alone” before a match.


30 posted on 07/02/2014 8:16:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

It took me a few minutes to figure that out, I didn’t want to Google it. Good one!


31 posted on 07/02/2014 8:20:04 AM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Jabbar, I hate to say this, but soccer is on the ascent in the USA for the following reasons:

1. We have a generation of people who grew up playing the game and really enjoy it.
2. It's cheap to learn and play, so participation is quite strong across demographic lines.
3. The increasing demographic and political influence of Latinos--most of whom grew up die-hard soccer fans--will make the sport far more popular in the near future.
4. The issues of long term injuries from playing American football is starting to make mothers steer their male children away from taking up American football to alternatives--and soccer is a big alternative.
5. Basketball is starting to suffer because many American players drafted into the NBA only know basketball by playing the AAU circuit plus only one year in college. As such, rookies in the NBA don't have the mature playing skills of rookies of 20 years ago.

In short, soccer is here to stay, and could within 15 years become one of the Big Four American sports besides American football, baseball and basketball.

32 posted on 07/02/2014 8:21:28 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: deadrock
Eventually, soccer will be the number 1 sport. More immigrants(legal and illegal) and no replenishment of whites will ensure that.

Good point.

33 posted on 07/02/2014 8:26:05 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: SeekAndFind; 1rudeboy
Regular season hockey games get about a 0.9 to 1.0 rating.

English Premier League matches in the US get a 0.3 to 0.4 rating.

In other words, matches played in another country by foreign teams already get almost half the viewership that domestic hockey games get.

The World Cup isn't replicable on a day to day basis any more than the Stanley Cup finals are.

The Stanley Cup gets maybe a 3.5 rating depending on who's playing.

The FIFA World Cup US game got a 14 rating.

34 posted on 07/02/2014 8:26:37 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Salvavida
As the MLS becomes more popular, you can kiss the NBA goodbye.

They mostly play at different times of the year. MLS goes up against baseball.
35 posted on 07/02/2014 8:28:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Bidimus1

Soccer americas next great sport.. and it always will be.


I see what you did there. ;-)


36 posted on 07/02/2014 8:29:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: RayChuang88

Last year was the first time I ever saw local TV news sports reports showing Premier League highlights.....That’s highly significant.

And now that Tim Howard is a household name, my Everton is about to get a lot more US fans.


37 posted on 07/02/2014 8:29:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.”


38 posted on 07/02/2014 8:31:01 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: RayChuang88

In short, soccer is here to stay, and could within 15 years become one of the Big Four American sports besides American football, baseball and basketball.


I have no doubt that, as the world homongenizes, it will become big in the US. But the ones who don’t like it now, and those in the future with the same historical context upon which their lives are based, will never like it. It will be popular partly because of marketing but mostly because of a growth in the demographic that already likes it.

It is a form of evolution. But it can evolve back.


39 posted on 07/02/2014 8:33:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

The other thing is that if immigration wanes, the soccer-loving demographics would likely adopt American tastes in sports.


40 posted on 07/02/2014 8:35:01 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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