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Have You Started Getting Ready for Hard Times
Survival Blog ^ | 7/22/14 | LS

Posted on 07/22/2014 6:35:28 PM PDT by Kartographer

When Paul Revere’s alarm, “The Redcoats are coming!”, was sounded through the countryside centuries ago, it was made to people who were prepared to meet a challenge. Whether the coming challenge in our present day is one of economics or something else, will you be prepared to respond when the alarm is sounded? Here are some ideas you should consider as you get started in your preparations for whatever hard times might await:

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Very basic article, but you might use it to get others to thinking about starting to prep.

Prepping seem daunting at first, but just remember start with the basic, take small steps and build from there.

1 posted on 07/22/2014 6:35:28 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 07/22/2014 6:35:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It is your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

The world is dry tinder just awaiting the right spark.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

Selco covers this in this article many times people just can not except that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it? It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

For those of you who are just thinking of starting to prep, those just getting started or if you are old hand you might find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download the manual at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change places to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


3 posted on 07/22/2014 6:37:56 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I think I have to find a help mate. Everything else seems in order.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 6:38:25 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Kartographer

That’d require money. Us poor folks are screwed before the gate opens.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 6:38:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kartographer

The last 5 1/2 years have been nothing but hard times. Hopefully the next will be significantly better.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 6:40:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Kartographer

Location, location, location.


7 posted on 07/22/2014 6:41:00 PM PDT by 867V309 (Don't tread on me, bro)
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To: Kartographer

Since we are being watched, I say OPSEC Rules!

It is none of anyone’s business what I have as far as gear goes......


8 posted on 07/22/2014 6:41:37 PM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: Kartographer

I think pellet guns should be substituted for BB gun. I suspect that is what he meant anyway.

The Daisy model 880 is so cheap yet useful that everyone should have a couple. Also get a couple of the better quality springers. Also a couple of quarts of non detergent 30wt. motor oil for general lubrication of guns air guns etc.


9 posted on 07/22/2014 6:41:53 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Kartographer

It wasn’t “FEMA” that brought us hot meals, water, ice, MRE-type food, laundering, phones and so much more during Hurricane Katrina. It was the Salvation Army, Red Cross, Lutheran Social Services, BCFS (Baptists), LDS Social Services and dozens more...


10 posted on 07/22/2014 6:43:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: mountainlion

I had one,
she split with my best friend.
I’m better off.


11 posted on 07/22/2014 6:44:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: Kartographer
What do mean “started?” These aren't hard times already with a real unemployment rate over 11 per cent and an invasion from the southern border, not to mention an all out assault against Christians from Wash. D.C? We are experiencing it now. But yes it will get worse at some point.
12 posted on 07/22/2014 6:45:56 PM PDT by Fungi (Don't read my posts if you do not like them.)
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To: Kartographer

I just recently gained 12 lbs so my body must be getting ready.


13 posted on 07/22/2014 6:47:26 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Fungi

I wish the unemployment rate was only 11% but I worked at the unemployment office way too long to buy that.


14 posted on 07/22/2014 6:48:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kartographer

Pfl


15 posted on 07/22/2014 6:48:51 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought I was being generous with that figure. Perhaps 14%?


16 posted on 07/22/2014 6:51:35 PM PDT by Fungi (Don't read my posts if you do not like them.)
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To: Kartographer
I'm something like 50 years old and I've been hearing these proclamations of impending doom and gloom ever since I was old enough to walk. Always with the drama, the "end is near" mantra and the constant refrain of "we are about to get our comeuppance."

Yet the end never seemed to happen. I still had to do my homework. These days, my mortgage still comes due each month and I have to pay it.

Instead, life just kept getting better. Food became cheaper and more plentiful. Whilst I only had a few entertainment options as a child, they abound today, to the point where there is not enough hours in the day to do all that I wish to do.

Now I'm not oblivious to the fact that we might see a setback at some point in time. I do keep a few extra batteries on hand. A fairly decent collection of canned good and a liquor cabinet to last me a month or two. A generator and fair supply of firewood.

So if a hurricane, earthquake or some other catastrophe was to hit, I'd be able to batten down those hatches and lie low for a spell.

But as for permanent hard times? Not going to happen. This economy continues to explode and our standard of living continues to increase year after year.

And guess what? Whoever happens to be "president" has nothing to do with it. We could put a mental derelict in the White House (in fact, we have!) and yet we continue to progress. Smartphones get smarter. Drilling for oil gets easier. Computers get faster. Food continues to get more plentiful - to the point where our major societal issue is...obesity.

So while I think it's a great idea to do a little "prepping" here and there (I now have three propane tanks filled), the notion that we are going to suddenly descend into a long term situation of hard times is unwarranted. If anything, we are on the cusp of a long boom that will make the current times seem like hard times.

17 posted on 07/22/2014 6:52:03 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: mountainlion
Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.
Proverbs 18:22


But you need be choosy just as not all males are men and capable of being Husbands not all women are ladies and capable of being Wives. My Pastor's advice; Look in church, you are bound to find a lot more Ladies even in a small church than you will find in any bar on the planet.
18 posted on 07/22/2014 6:53:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You can say that again.
Us poor folk are screwed, but at least by being poor we are conditioned to live on meager means getting by.
Learned how to reuse the KFC ( I go to KFC when there is a sale or when I can afford it ) black bowls and plastic lids in the microwave instead of going out and buying paper plates.
Same thing about buying frozen dinners at Walmart and reusing the black plastic microwave dish instead of buying paper plates.
I go to the dollar store for a lot of my things, and dollar steak knifes, toilet paper, laundry detergent.
19 posted on 07/22/2014 6:54:32 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Kartographer

bump*


20 posted on 07/22/2014 6:56:11 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Fungi

it’s more like 25%. in reality.


21 posted on 07/22/2014 6:56:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SamAdams76

I understand what you are saying and it is a good point. I remember a book titled “The Crash of 1980” or some similar year. We did go through some fairly tough economic times but never a real crash.

On the other hand my parents who are both deceased, lived through a real depression so they can happen. I am nearly 70 years old and have seen things in the last few years that I would have never believed. I am mostly talking about morality but it does have some relation to a country’s health.

I really do think there is a catastrophic period coming at some time in this country and probably the entire world.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 7:00:18 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Hard to swallow. If it was that high, the freeways would not be as clogged as they are and the price of gas would be below a dollar. Just a thought.
23 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:26 PM PDT by Fungi (Not a tagline. Do not even look here.)
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To: Fungi

Depends on the demographic. For instance, young black males are over 50%. That’s right, only one out of 2 have any kind of job. The average is probably upper teens to lower twenties.

My dad said that during the depression successful salesman’s families got to eat and most everyone else nearly starved. His family of eight sometimes had a potato to eat. I don’t mean a potato each, I mean ONE potato! When he was able to attend school his “lunch” was some corn bread with lard on top. We have no idea how good we have it now.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kartographer

been pushing to extend my basic food stores from 1 month to 3 months. with prices expected to sky rocket the urgency has increased. Been gardening like crazy with good results. good crop of plums, peaches and nectarines - pomegranates coming on good.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:59 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: SamAdams76

Glad things are well for you, but it’s not so for many. Oil, yes flowing in many places flowing almost as fast as gasoline prices are rising. Jobs new jobs are running about 2 or 3 part time to every full time and the wags for both aren’t even keeping up with inflation. Food? I guess you haven’t check the prices of pork or beef lately. We are presently being invaded by third world countries bring not only adding more takers to the rolls, but bringing their third world problems with them. How many more are we to carry before we reach a tipping point.

I suggest you read the article on normalcy bias you might find it enlightening.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 7:02:17 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Fungi; Secret Agent Man

Welfare, disability and little part time jobs are what’s keeping it from looking like Calcutta. That won’t last. It can’t.


27 posted on 07/22/2014 7:03:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kartographer

“Very basic article, but you might use it to get others to thinking about starting to prep.”

Agree...he does a good job on very lightly touching the critical topics. The next step for people is to start digging into those.

One comment about canned food. Most cans have an expiration date a year or a bit more out. If you give it to a food drive after that, they will politely thank you and then immediately trash it, since it’s “expired”.

But then there are others saying that canned food will last at least a decade, if not several decades, particularly if you keep it cool.

So here’s my experience - I stocked up quite well back in 2009 when I figured the dollar would collapse (as any currency this abused would do, in a sane world). Didn’t happen (yet), so now I have a boatload of 5 year-old food (believe me, if you had my wife’s cooking, you wouldn’t eat...or rotate through that canned food very quickly either). So, she’s been out for a bit, and now I’m eating the food. I made no special effort to keep the house (and canned food) cool either last summer or this summer, and temperatures in the 80s were the rule (even at this moment).

Result: The food is JUST FINE. Cannot tell the difference in taste from new and it has actually been a lot of fun eating it - I can calories very easy that way, and some of it is quite filling for the number of calories provided (like corn and peas). Very good experience so far, and I suspect that food would still be good for another 5 years, even with my (temperature) abuse. Now, give me a cool basement, and I wouldn’t hesitate to try 20 year-old canned food - providing, of course, that the can wasn’t bulged out (none of mine are, by the way), and the contents smelled decent.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 7:04:19 PM PDT by BobL
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To: yarddog

Is it legal to openly carry an air pistol?


29 posted on 07/22/2014 7:04:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Fungi

lots of folks are living off others and off the books. i see people driving newer cars than me buying good groceries with ebt cards.

holders folks usually.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BobL

Canned Food Expiration Date MYTH

http://www.prepper-resources.com/canned-food-expiration-date-myth/


31 posted on 07/22/2014 7:06:37 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: yarddog
I think pellet guns should be substituted for BB gun. I suspect that is what he meant anyway.

I agree. Have them in .177, .22, and .25. Ammo is cheap. Some of the air rifles are a tad expensive, but a basic .177 should be in everyone's preps.

Air Gun Depot

I use it to control pests. The .177 is very effective out to around 50 yards. Muzzle velocity on some are at 1200fps. They are very good for target practice, and the CO2 pistols are excellent for indoor practice (must wear eye protection) when you can't get out to the range.
32 posted on 07/22/2014 7:06:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep,they were tough times.

I was born in the Depression.

My brother was born in the Depression.

My father died in the Depression.

Rough indeed.

.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 7:07:58 PM PDT by Mears
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To: VerySadAmerican

I imagine laws for airguns are as varied as those for powder burners. Where I live, I am sure you could carry for instance a Crosman 1377 which is a fairly powerful air pistol but it looks like an air pistol.

I have Walther and Smith & Wesson air pistols which look just like firearms and I would not recommend any one carry them openly in crowded places.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 7:08:09 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Kartographer

I am building up emergency supplies slowly. What prepper dehydrated foods do people recommend?


35 posted on 07/22/2014 7:08:30 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: VerySadAmerican

Depends on where you live, but some of the cops now days will most likely shoot you and your dog any way.


36 posted on 07/22/2014 7:08:51 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mears

My father was born in 1925, had to work as a “hired man” from the age of 12, later was in the CCC and then the Marines for 20 years.


37 posted on 07/22/2014 7:10:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Kartographer

Nice...figured you had some info on it.


38 posted on 07/22/2014 7:12:15 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Huskrrrr

Canned foods are the cheapest way to go. I dehydrate some of my own and seal it in canning jars.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3116028/posts

Walmart started sell Augason Farms food on the website with free shipping for orders over $50.00.

I don’t recommend ‘kits’ as I believe you are better off buying the fixings and cooking, less waste more variety.


39 posted on 07/22/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Prepper/survivalism begins to take on an air of unreality. There is no realistic scenario which would lead to the total breakdown of "The System" as imagined by survivalists.
40 posted on 07/22/2014 7:17:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kartographer
Look in church

Found one in church. Marrying her was the second biggest mistake of my life...

OK, the first was staying married to her

41 posted on 07/22/2014 7:18:14 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Kartographer

BTW I am totally serious about the two or three quarts of non detergent motor oil. Also get one of those little cans which allow you to squeeze a lever for a few drops.

There are a few airguns which require special oils but even those can get by with the motor oil. For most guns and air guns the motor oil is about the best thing for them. The motor oil is even more versatile than 3in1 oil.

Also a couple of spray cans of molybdenum di sulphide lubricant. plus the best quality of moly grease with the most moly you can get.


42 posted on 07/22/2014 7:19:02 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“My father was born in 1925, had to work as a “hired man” from the age of 12, later was in the CCC and then the Marines for 20 years.”


The kids today don’t have a clue-—and I’m including my grandkids in that statement.

.


43 posted on 07/22/2014 7:22:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

damn straight. and if anyone thinks we aren’t doing reparations called any number of things, they’re not seeing reality.


44 posted on 07/22/2014 7:23:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
There is no realistic scenario which would lead to the total breakdown of "The System" as imagined by survivalists.

Of course there is. It involves zombies. You're gonna say that zombies aren't real, aren't you? Hah! Those are the first guys they eat.

OKOK, you've got a point. The problem is that the multiplicity of perfectly imaginable scenarios means that prepping for as many of them as possible looks exactly like prepping for the Big One, whatever that might be imagined to be. (And it involves zombies). You'll probably only ever use a small piece of what it is you've stashed but it may be that that small piece makes the difference between life and death. Staying inside during a hurricane because you've stashed extra insulin instead of having to go outside to try to get it is only one example. Little things can make big differences but you'd have to have a crystal ball to see which ones you'll need.

And that crystal ball...will show zombies.

45 posted on 07/22/2014 7:25:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SamAdams76

In the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf.....the wolf finally arrived.

He who has ears...let him hear.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 7:32:31 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: yarddog

I just bought a Gamo Whisper Fusion Pro pellet rifle. Those dang squirrels that have been eating my peaches are toast.


47 posted on 07/22/2014 7:41:02 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

There are a number of them. You should have felt the tension during the early 1980s as many of us knew that we were in a window where the Soviets had to make their move, or else lose that window for many years.

One that we lived under for generations and that will come to the fore front again, is a widespread nuclear war, the planet and growing seasons can still be affected by an asteroid, or a series of volcanoes, or a Carrington event.

History isn’t over, and humans still need to think of war, and pestilence and failed cosmic events.

So far, in my lifetime I have never regretted being prepared, and I have never wasted my food stocks and prepping gear, it has always been incorporated into my life.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 7:41:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Kartographer

I’m thinking of putting together a cheap 10 food supply list for people that are just never going to get around to storing any food, for instance a high paid single female, downtown condo dweller, that has almost no food in her house except for a few expensive health things, and lives mostly on take out.

I’m thinking of something that they can keep in a single box buried away for five years and then give it to someone (like a single man), or pitch it every five years if they are wired that way, and an easy list that they can replace themselves.

For example:

10 cans tuna
5 cans pork and beans
5 cans chili
10 cans corn and/or peas
2 boxes instant rice
2 large jars of peanut butter

2 cases bottled water

After talking to people about this stuff for decades, I know there are some that just never get around to it. With this simple list they don’t invest much money, and they can just replace it with the same listed items every 5 years.

For the kind of people I’m talking about, they don’t eat these foods usually, they don’t care about wasting $45 every five years, and they are not going to shop and rotate, and so on, so talking to them doesn’t help, you pretty much have to just assign them something.

To me, a list similar to this would be something to give them some extended self sufficiency, assuming they have some things in their cupboard, refrigerator and freezer, it should help them deal with a couple of weeks delay in services.


49 posted on 07/22/2014 7:42:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Kartographer

“I suggest you read the article on normalcy bias you might find it enlightening.”

No he wont.

He’s one of these people that no matter what they will simply refuse to believe we have a president and his political party whose intent is to destroy the country so they can rebuild it to a Socialist Utopian dream world.

Don’t you know, the left wing freaks in this country are different than the left wing freaks in other countries.

The left wing freaks in this country are good people only doing what’s good for the country and the people, they’re not seeking absolute power like the left wing freaks in other countries.


50 posted on 07/22/2014 7:42:16 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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