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"High protein diet linked to spiked cancer risk akin to smoking 20 cigarettes a day: U.S. study"
National Post ^ | Mar. 5, 2014 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 09/01/2014 4:30:03 AM PDT by Jacob Kell

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To: Kennard

Thanks for the link.

Skimming over the actual study, it looks worse than I had originally thought from the articles. The nutrient intake was based on a single 24 hour period... there is so much wrong with using that as a basis to make conclusions about how diet affects health across the entire lifespan that I don’t even want to touch that one. They also did cancer growth studies in mice fed “high” and “low” protein diets, then injected with cancer cells. Well, bravo, they have generated more data on cancer in mice—but whether or how that extrapolates to humans is a big guess.

In my opinion, the human data should not have been included in that study. It was, at best, marginally relevant to the rest of the study.


101 posted on 09/01/2014 10:16:45 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: southern rock

May I suggest that you read a book by Udo Erasmus, “Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill?”

It is available on Amazon, and it will open your eyes with regard to Extra Virgin Olive
Oil and a lot more fats and oils that we’re eating.


102 posted on 09/01/2014 10:21:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Freestate316; OpusatFR

Just so you know. The porks internal temp is about 180 and its so tender the thermometer feels like its going into nothing but goodness. Raising the temp now to finish the outside to a nice crunchy bit of heaven.

21 hours at 200 degrees is magic


103 posted on 09/01/2014 10:28:23 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Is there a specific animal protein based benzene/amine sequence processed by the human gut and passed to our cells that can trigger cancerous mutation? It would “seem” that such a pathway exists in other species... But it is still an unknown for us...

Judging by the physical structure of heterocyclic amines, I would hypothesize that the carcinogenic properties result from their ability to intercalate with DNA (that is, they stick themselves between the base-pairs). This causes deformation of the DNA, which affects the ability of DNA replication and repair enzymes to properly bind to and act on DNA.

Since some essential nutrients are also heterocyclic amines, I would also hypothesize that the carcinogenic heterocyclic amines are resistant to enzyme action that would normally shunt them into various metabolic pathways for further processing.

I also happen to be a biochemist, PhD type.

104 posted on 09/01/2014 10:28:27 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

Would stress levels mitigate this?

Say in sedentary adults vs “actively in training” adults.

In their sampling, the bottom age of the survey was apparently 50 years of age. Changes in insulin sensitivity, IGF-1, GDF-8, IGFBP-3, etc ... should be entirely different for those adults who are active vs those who enjoy their late-middle years by docile activities.

Not a PhD here... Just someone with a strong interest, pun intended, in maintaining my weightlifting and activity levels for as long as I can. The benefits have, so far, outweighed any potential risks. If I need to moderate my diet here in a few more years to avoid cancer... I’d prefer to know the Why as well as the How...


105 posted on 09/01/2014 10:45:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: driftdiver

That is so cruel. I’m drooling.


106 posted on 09/01/2014 2:10:06 PM PDT by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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To: southern rock; TheOldLady
"well I have read the actual book, not just what people say about it. Recommend you do the same. It has not been "debunked" as you claim, and it is not "nonsense""

No, thanks. I know what's being advocated, and I'm not interested in reading a vegetarian fanatic's attempt to sell his lifestyle.

"LOL??? Well, let's see. Olive oil is 100% fat. 100%!! Pure FAT. How is that a health food exactly??"

See, this is what I mean, southern rock. You've been misled into thinking that fat = bad, which is absolutely wrong. Our bodies NEED fat to absorb vitamins, to produce hormones, for brain function, energy, and healthy cells, skin, and hair.

Olive oil is full of antioxidants, anti-inflammatories, omega fatty acids, and it has properties that are beneficial for your heart and your blood pressure. Even the Mayo Clinic agrees that olive oil is good for your health.

107 posted on 09/01/2014 5:41:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Well said, Catherine. Thank you.

Propaganda about food has misled so many of us. It’s sad, really.


108 posted on 09/01/2014 6:17:00 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Jacob Kell

Another useless ‘study’.


109 posted on 09/01/2014 9:16:17 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: TheOldLady

Thank you, TOL. It’s good to see you. :)


110 posted on 09/02/2014 12:07:57 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon

;-) I’ll be back! Eventually... :)


111 posted on 09/02/2014 1:24:46 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Jacob Kell; AllAmericanGirl44; Armen Hareyan; B4Ranch; Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi; bayareablues; ...
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112 posted on 09/02/2014 8:08:29 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Thanks for the ping. (And I smoke)

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113 posted on 09/02/2014 8:14:24 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Jacob Kell

Question: Who funded the study?

Someone has something to gain from this.


114 posted on 09/03/2014 11:41:07 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Mears

Mears, I never smoked. Cancer at 46. LOL.

I don’t eat much protein, either. Sometimes I wonder if what we do makes any difference. ;-)


115 posted on 09/03/2014 4:20:09 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

“Mears, I never smoked. Cancer at 46. LOL.”

I made it to age 70 w/o cancer,I’m now 81——sometimes I think the entire thing is a crapshoot. :-)

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116 posted on 09/03/2014 5:02:56 PM PDT by Mears
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