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Plunge in California kindergartners' vaccination rate worries health officials
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Posted on 09/03/2014 9:02:40 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Talisker
????? I want to read the article later, what are you raging about?
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posted on
09/04/2014 1:50:38 AM PDT
by
kalee
To: Talisker; kalee
Calm down.
I think kalee was just bookmarking the thread.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:29:56 AM PDT
by
Aurorales
(I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
To: chessplayer
Its going to be the perfect storm. Lots of unvaccinated kids mixed with lots of illegal kids with lovely diseases like Polio, Diptheria, Measles etc. And when the inevitable epidemic occurs the hoards of California Shysters will be off looking to strike it rich because SOMEONE MUST PAY!
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:35:15 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Talisker
“When you’re in hell, I’m going to lean over heaven’s balcony to spit in your agonized face.”
I wouldn’t be so sure of my position in the line if I were you.
Christianity fail.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:37:47 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Talisker
A paper that claimed government scientists covered up data showing a connection between vaccines and autism has been pulled by its publisher
Earlier in August, the journal Translational Neurodegeneration, an open access, peer-reviewed journal, published a re-analysis of a 2004 paper published in Pediatrics that looked at MMR vaccines and autism. The re-analysis of the data, by biochemical engineer Brian Hooker of Simpson University, claimed to find a higher rate of vaccination against MMR among a subset African-American boys of the original study population who developed autism than among those who did not, a finding that Hooker claims was suppressed by the authors of the original paper from the Centers of Disease Control. One of the co-authors of the 2004 paper, William Thompson, released a statement admitting to omitting the data after a secretly recorded conversation he had with Hooker was released on YouTube. (Thompson was not available for comment.)
MORE: Whistleblower Claims CDC Covered Up Data Showing Vaccine-Autism Link
Now, however, the editors of Translational Neurodegeneration have retracted Hookers paper, noting on its site that This article has been removed from the public domain because of serious concerns about the validity of its conclusions. The journal and publisher believe that its continued availability may not be in the public interest. Definitive editorial action will be pending further i
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:44:47 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Kozak
For most diseases improvements in public sanitation and hygiene reduced the rate of infection, the vaccine had almost nothing to do with it.
1-in-68 children are afflicted by ASD. The effects of the MMR vaccine are much worse than the associated diseases ever were.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:54:00 AM PDT
by
Justa
To: Justa
First . THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE MMR AND AUTISM. NONE.
It’s been studied to death and there is ZERO evidence of causality.
Second. Measles mumps and Rubella all have significant morbidity and some mortality associated with infection. I remember when young girls had “German Measles parties” so they could get infected to avoid getting later when pregnant.
Don’t want to get your kids vaccinated? DON’T.
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posted on
09/04/2014 3:13:58 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Justa
One other thing. You don't even know how to interpret that graph. It shows the DEATH rate, not the annual number of infections. Thats a function of the fact that we made HUGE strides in medicine during that 150 years. In fact US cases were estimated to be 4 MILLION a year until the vaccine.
With a fatality rate of 0.3% thats STILL 12000 deaths a year. Not to mention the cases of deafness, blindness, and Subacute Pansclerosing Encephalitis. And thats JUST THE MEASLES COMPONENT OF THE MMR.
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posted on
09/04/2014 3:38:12 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Kozak
Good points.
I am not opposed to vaccinations. I am opposed to giving them to infants vs. 4 year old Pre-Ks or 5 year old Kindergarteners. At these ages I believe the children are developed enough to handle the vaccines without the adverse effects seen in infants.
I’m not going to waste my time going into the Autism - vaccination link. There is much on the web for you to read for yourself including a recent study just pulled by it’s publisher btw, which directly links infant immunizations with autism.
1-in-68 brain damaged kids is not something a humane person would turn their back on or casually dismiss. What is it in our country that 3rd world, non-infant immunizing countries don’t have or do to their infants which accounts for the US’s 1500 per 100,000 ASD cases?
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posted on
09/04/2014 3:57:03 AM PDT
by
Justa
To: Justa
No one knows why autism rates are up. Some of it is a change in the diagnostic criteria, but that doesn’t explain it all. BUT, the vaccine autism link has been studied and restudied and again, there is NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE. Most of the stuff on the internet on the topic is crap.
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posted on
09/04/2014 4:03:50 AM PDT
by
Kozak
("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger e)
To: Kozak
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/?tool=pubmed
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posted on
09/04/2014 4:06:23 AM PDT
by
Justa
To: Justa
I agree!
What needs to be looked at is the ages of these kids when given vax, the health conditions of those babies when they are vaccinated (even a minor cold or infection could have causative repercussions) and the number of vaxes all dumped into little bodies at one appointment because it's cheaper, easier and more convenient for the pediatrician to do them all at once
Since the vax-autism deniers are still holding sway (kinda like the global warmists), it is hindering research into the connection of the body's reaction to multiple vaxs administered simultaneously or in short intervals, preservatives in those vax’s (another controversy, lab conditions and controls where those vaxs are made, and predispositions of some kids to being high risk because of their ethnicity, genetics, parental age, prenatal exposures or their sex
No one has explained why autism and ADD/ADHD (which are on the autism spectrum according to the long time pediatrician and neuropsychologist treating my kid) is skyrocketing, especially among boys.
and no, it's not because the doctors parents teachers and schools are trolling for behavior modification medication
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posted on
09/04/2014 4:15:48 AM PDT
by
silverleaf
(Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
To: Talisker
When you're in hell, I'm going to lean over heaven's balcony to spit in your agonized face. Will this be your view as you're up with your halo spitting in my hellbound face?
To: chessplayer
And that movement is winning. A few good epidemics and the number of unvaccinated children will be reduced by the laws of nature.
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posted on
09/04/2014 6:24:01 AM PDT
by
KosmicKitty
(Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
To: chessplayer
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posted on
09/04/2014 12:25:15 PM PDT
by
aimhigh
(1 John 3:23)
To: Organic Panic
Will this be your view as you're up with your halo spitting in my hellbound face? Nope - this will, times millions.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:13:35 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: Kozak
So the trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry moved its lawyers into position and got an article pulled and a whistleblower crushed by impugning his name?
Wow, what a surprise.
Believe what you want.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:22:25 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: KosmicKitty
A few good epidemics and the number of unvaccinated children will be reduced by the laws of nature. If you're so sure of that, why claim the unvaccinated endanger the vaccinated?
I think, rather, that the problem is that the unvaccinated will have the healthy immune systems and survive. Can't have that, now can we?
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:28:19 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: Kozak
I wouldnt be so sure of my position in the line if I were you. Christianity fail. Perhaps.
But if Jesus demands placid silence in the face of the forced poisoning millions of babies, then I'd rather go to hell so as not to have to look at Him happily holding hands with the poisoners.
You think this is some word game? You're a child.
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posted on
09/04/2014 2:40:01 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: Talisker
Ah, FRiend, I never said the unvaccinated endangered the vaccinated.
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posted on
09/04/2014 5:03:37 PM PDT
by
KosmicKitty
(Liberals claim to want to hear other views, but then are shocked to discover there are other views)
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