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A Few Words About Reclining Airline Seats
Reason ^ | Steve Chapman | September 8, 2014

Posted on 09/12/2014 11:47:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Face it, people: You've made it clear you want a low price more than you want comfort, so this airline has provided it.

Good morning. This is your captain. We'll be cruising today at an altitude of 30,000 feet, and we expect to arrive at our destination on time. Then we'll spend 45 minutes on the tarmac waiting for a gate to open up, because apparently, the airport folks had no idea we were coming.

Our flight crew will be coming through the cabin shortly to offer you a choice of lukewarm beverages along with a tiny chemical-infused snack that wouldn't sustain a gerbil through a cold night. You're welcome to take a nap, if you can sleep through me coming on the intercom to inform you of things you couldn't care less about.

And if there's anything we can do to make your flight more pleasant, please let us know so we can figure out if there's a way to charge you for it.

But I want to make a special announcement today. My last flight got diverted because a couple of knuckleheads started screaming and throwing things at each other. Turns out one of them wanted to recline a seat and the other took offense. I really hate detours. So let me tell you how it's going to be.

You all bought a ticket for a seat that reclines, which means if you want to recline, you're entitled to do it. I'm not saying you should. Just because you're free to spend the entire flight sobbing to your seatmates about your breakup or berating them with your opinion of Barack Obama doesn't mean it's a considerate thing to do. Just because you are allowed to scratch and belch en route doesn't mean your mother would approve.

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To: 1rudeboy
"a tiny chemical-infused snack.."

If they just use the right chemical the flight would be over in no time. In Fact you might just get there before the plane does. Just saying. ;-)
21 posted on 09/12/2014 12:06:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: cuban leaf

> And I consider the space into which my seat reclines to be my space, and not the space of the passenger behind me. and on Long flights, I need it a LOT more than he does anyway.

You are THAT guy, eh? Sounds like a good dose of flatulence might be in order...lol


22 posted on 09/12/2014 12:06:20 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 1rudeboy

Airlines have done all they can to make the experience unbearable. I drive if I can, even if it means a couple of days in a car. I just got back from multiple-legged series of flights and I’d almost rather take a beating than go through that. I used to enjoy flying. Its been a while since I could say that.


23 posted on 09/12/2014 12:07:51 PM PDT by marron
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To: Resolute Conservative

“My last flight was in 2004”

Same here. If I can’t drive it, I don’t go.

“Why should I travel? I’m already here!” - old saying


24 posted on 09/12/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ZinGirl

I call her the Bi*ch in the box. And yes they are annoying.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 12:12:43 PM PDT by sheana
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To: jsanders2001

You are THAT guy, eh? Sounds like a good dose of flatulence might be in order...lol


I think it’s a bit of culture clash. Fact is, the space under your seat is the “property” of the guy behind you, and the space the guy in front of you reclines into is the “property” of the guy in front of you.

In fact, I consider it giving up my space when I am not reclining. And I in no way begrudge the guy in front of me using his space when he reclines. Again, he needs it a lot more than I do. It does not affect me in any way.

So, when a person like me sits behind a person like you, I get a bonus space. And when a person like me sits in front of a person like you, the person in back is miffed, even though what the person in front is doing is completely reasonable, per aircraft design.

I feel the same way about arm rests. I get half of each one and have used it if only to keep someones abdominal fat from getting into my seat.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 12:13:23 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: ZinGirl; cableguymn

With nation’s school lunches fundamentally transformed, Michelle O eyes ‘talking shopping carts’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3182083/posts


27 posted on 09/12/2014 12:14:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: marron

I used to enjoy flying. Its been a while since I could say that.


I think a huge part of it is the ol’ “you get what you pay for”. Coach used to be pretty darned comfortable - and danged expensive in 2014 dollars. Now everybody flies, and often in pajamas.


28 posted on 09/12/2014 12:15:04 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
...airline seats are an excellent case study for the Coase Theorem. This is an economic theory holding that it doesn’t matter very much who is initially given a property right; so long as you clearly define it and transaction costs are low, people will trade the right so that it ends up in the hands of whoever values it most. That is, I own the right to recline, and if my reclining bothers you, you can pay me to stop. We could (but don’t) have an alternative system in which the passenger sitting behind me owns the reclining rights. In that circumstance, if I really care about being allowed to recline, I could pay him to let me.

Don’t Want Me to Recline My Airline Seat? You Can Pay Me. Josh Barro, New York Times, August 27, 2014.


29 posted on 09/12/2014 12:17:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: drunknsage

We had to get up to let people out of their seat —

And they were on the aisle!


30 posted on 09/12/2014 12:19:54 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: sheana

I set my voice command on “Japanese”. It is a language I understand and Asian females are a lot more pleasant to deal with than most of them on this side of the Pacific.


31 posted on 09/12/2014 12:21:35 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 1rudeboy
You all bought a ticket for a seat that reclines,...

That is incorrect. Many seats do NOT recline already. Seats near bulkheads and seats that would block exits often are configured so that they can not recline.

32 posted on 09/12/2014 12:21:45 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: cableguymn
Re: GPS Lady

Recalculate Biatch !

33 posted on 09/12/2014 12:23:27 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 1rudeboy
Useful chart for those interested. Not sure of the date of the survey.

Economy class seat survey

How wide is your seat really? How much footsie space do you have in front of you? Does your seat actually recline or must you travel in the brace position all the way to New York? Finally, an airline economy class seat survey with all those niggling details.

34 posted on 09/12/2014 12:28:36 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: 1rudeboy

Good morning ladies and gentlemen and welcome to flight OU812 on Mile High Airlines.

We will be departing Stapleton International shortly for Greenville Airport, we hope to get clarification shortly after takeoff if that is North or South Carolina. I’d hate to make the same mistake 3 times in one week.

Shortly after takeoff, our flight attendants will be passing out the special snacks you are all waiting for. While the cookies are scrumptious, the brownies are fabulous, and highly illegal in the 42 non-enlightened states.

Of course, free bags of chips and cokes will be served on request.

We estimate flight time to be under 3 hours, but after 2 brownies and a cookie, I doubt anyone will care. Recline your seat if you like, or just pass out on the floor, thats what we do here on the flight deck, love that autopilot.

So sit back, relax and get ready for the trip of a lifetime on Mile High Airlines.


35 posted on 09/12/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by wrench
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To: 1rudeboy
I thought this bit was entertaining:

Your ancestors probably came across the ocean in steerage, crammed into dim spaces with smelly strangers for weeks at a time, fighting off rats and scurvy.

Or they may have come in slave ships against their will, where they had a truly excellent chance of dying. They may have crossed the continent in a bone-jarring covered wagon eating buffalo jerky three meals a day.

And you? You have to endure modestly cramped quarters for a few hours to be transported vast distances they would have needed weeks or months to cover. Boo friggin' hoo.


Reminds me of Louis CK: "‘Oh my God! Wow!’ ...You’re sitting in a chair, in the sky!”
36 posted on 09/12/2014 12:31:00 PM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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I don’t fly much anymore either, but when I last flew on Southwest a few months ago, the seats barely reclined. They reclined only about 3 inches back at the top - just enough to prevent one’s head from lolling forward when sleeping - but at knee level, a reclined seat intruded only about in inch into the knee space area.

I was okay with that as the reclinee and my knees appreciated not getting hit by the seat in front of me.


37 posted on 09/12/2014 12:32:55 PM PDT by Kipp
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To: 1rudeboy
No Reclining Zone

Some airline will make a lot of money with this simple idea.

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38 posted on 09/12/2014 12:34:57 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: cableguymn

i think it depends more on how each airline has requested the cabin layout to be for them. some give more space between rows than others, at least from what i’ve heard from the flyers here.


39 posted on 09/12/2014 12:35:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: reefdiver

tsa-free since november 2001.


40 posted on 09/12/2014 12:36:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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