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This Is John Galt?
Intercollegiate Review ^ | September 17, 2014 | Anthony Sacramone

Posted on 09/18/2014 1:00:14 PM PDT by bkepley

To say there is a decline in the quality of the screenwriting and production values would be an understatement. I know there was a Kickstarter movement at one point to raise some geetis (and faux outrage, apparently). And the producers have admitted that Parts I and II did not make a profit. But great jumping dust bunnies, this thing makes Plan Nine from Outer Space look like the original specs for the Apollo 11 moon launch.

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To: GraceG; ansel12
Ayn Rand’s works were a instruction manual of *most* of the mechanics of limited government without the needed “soul” of such a movement.

I understand you point and don't seek to minimize it nor be argumentative. In what may be simply narrow-mindedness on my part, I just can't get over her for these items:

Sorry but those are non-starters for me and trump whatever else she may have done. Possibly one of my few FR allies in this view is ansel12, whom I've pinged not so much for an "attaboy" but to make sure I haven't misunderstood him.

I've long stated here and elsewhere that Sodom and Gomorrah may have had a flourishing, free-market economy with low taxes and limited government. Were that the hypothetical indeed the case, even those positives attributes were unlikely to have spared them from the Lord's Righteous Wrath.

21 posted on 09/18/2014 2:28:09 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: GrootheWanderer
What does the publication this come from have to do with the relative merits of those colleges?

Good question and I admit I'm absolutely, utterly and 100% wrong. As it turns out the Intercollegiate Review is -- in fact -- a pro-liberty, Conservative publication. My error was presuming that anything with the name "Intercollegiate" was leftist which triggered my knee-jerk rant against the colleges I named upthread. That crux of that rant still stands but the motivation for it was misplaced.

I apologize to all without equivocation and offer no excuses for being so off the mark.

22 posted on 09/18/2014 2:35:04 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex; GraceG

I don’t know what the specific discussion is about, but she really despised Reagan and didn’t vote for him in 1980, but then again, running against Reagan was the best election in history for the libertarians.

We don’t have to speculate on whether social liberalism creates more voters for the left, we have 50 years of history proving it.

When I read Ayn Rand I learned some good stuff from her that helped me defend capitalism in coffee house arguments with liberals, during the 60s, being a young teen who just came across her books on my own, I never thought to pay attention to her as a person, I would have to read her again to get up to speed on all these modern arguments about her.


23 posted on 09/18/2014 2:47:11 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Red Badger
Bad script. Bad acting. When I wasn't cringing, I was rolling my eyes and trying not to laugh.

The book would have been better served by a TV miniseries.

24 posted on 09/18/2014 2:54:56 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Well none of you/us have created a better version. So relatively speaking it’s spectacular.

Maybe the problem is with a movie like this it’s difficult to separate oneself from it because it’s actually happening.


25 posted on 09/18/2014 3:33:03 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Barry is but a symptom of the disease that killed this republic. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Publius
The book would have been better served by a TV miniseries.

Absolutely. And you have a little bit of experience with the serialization of this work :)

26 posted on 09/18/2014 3:53:32 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: Publius

After this fiasco of a trilogy, the question has become “Who Was John Galt?”


27 posted on 09/18/2014 4:12:04 PM PDT by Misterioso ("The essence of life is the achievement of joy, not the escape from pain." | Letters of Ayn Rand)
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To: GrootheWanderer; re_nortex

This publication is part of the old line conservative source for university level conservatism — hardly a fan of Randian Objectivism.

The fact that the movies, together, are worse than the ponderous book after fifty years to get it done is what they find so laughable.

Rand wrote some concise works that are worth reading even if you don’t buy her Objectivist theology, but I am with Whittaker Chambers on Atlas Shrugged.


28 posted on 09/18/2014 4:19:56 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: KC Burke

here is a more interesting review from the site:
http://www.intercollegiatereview.com/index.php/2014/08/20/the-duping-of-lauren-bacall-and-humphrey-bogart/


29 posted on 09/18/2014 4:24:06 PM PDT by KC Burke (Gowdy for Supreme Court)
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To: bkepley

Some people make a living out of being critical of other peoples’ work. Anthony Sacramone is a professional critic.


30 posted on 09/18/2014 7:13:52 PM PDT by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: Publius

Methinks you over analyzed the movie Publius — it is not intended for someone as intelligent or as knowledgeable as you are.

I hope that some low information voters get turned on to AS III, and I likewise hope some LIEberals go see it and get the message.


31 posted on 09/18/2014 8:22:46 PM PDT by Taxman (I am mad as Hell and I am not going to take it any more!)
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To: Taxman; Publius; All
Here's a thoughtful comment following the professional critic's review by someone who articulates my view far better than I'm able to do:

" RichardPoirier • 6 hours ago Although some of the film criticism that reviewer Anthony Sacramone makes here are reasonably valid, they are the typical kind of comments we have come to expect from art and film critics. What he misses is the fact that no major studio would have made this film precisely due to Any[sic] Rand’s opposition to the government/Hollywood liberal perspective. The real achievement here is that this (all three parts) was by necessity a low budget film of a monumental significant philosophy that deserves to be presented to a declining population in great need. I have read all of Ayn Rand’s major work, met her in 1974 and saw each of the three parts of Atlas Shrugged. I am sure there were many challenges in making this movie a reality. The thought that crossed my mind while watching the film was the obvious necessity of using different actors in the three film parts. I was happy to see that John Aglialoro didn’t allow the unavailability of certain talent to get in his way of completing the second and third parts. Ayn Rand understood the necessity of overcoming obstacles. It is a tribute to producer John Aglialoro that he did too and succeeded very ably. Although most of the actors were reasonably good, in the end it was the story’s concept that really mattered. All of the film’s shortcomings are minor. The novel’s compressed low-budget screenplay crafted for a broad audience will no doubt motivate those who still have the capacity to think for themselves to read Rand’s books for a deeper understanding of her views and the nature of reality.

FReegards, Otter

32 posted on 09/18/2014 9:24:12 PM PDT by shove_it (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen -- Dennis Prager)
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To: Publius

33 posted on 09/19/2014 6:13:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: re_nortex

You don’t have to believe in God to be conservative.


34 posted on 09/19/2014 11:58:47 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Red Badger

Our book is substantially better than “Cliffs Notes”.


35 posted on 09/19/2014 12:13:44 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
Our book is substantially better than “Cliffs Notes”

But is the movie?.............................(I've read the book)..................

36 posted on 09/19/2014 12:23:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger; Billthedrill
The movies were a disappointment to me. I liked the first, had mixed feelings about the second, and I was embarrassed by the final one. As I've said on more than one occasion, the book would have been better served by a TV miniseries.

That being said, I hope it prompts people not familiar with the book to go out, buy a copy and buy our book as a study guide while they try to get their friends to read it also.

Let a thousand book clubs and reading circles flower!

37 posted on 09/19/2014 12:27:29 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

I tried to get my daughter to read the book, but she is intimidated by the sheer size of it.

I had hoped to get the movies as a three disc set to give to her as a Christmas present, so she might be interested in reading the book.............


38 posted on 09/19/2014 12:36:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger
If the three movies are out by Christmas, go ahead and get her the DVD's. If that piques her interest, buy our book and hand it to her along with Atlas Shrugged. Tell her to read one chapter of "Atlas", then the corresponding chapter from our book. She'll walk away with a structured way of tackling the book and a better understanding of what Rand was trying to accomplish.
39 posted on 09/19/2014 12:42:50 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Red Badger

From another review I read:

“Rand’s kooky, purple imagination—with its eroticized elitism and its fixation on trains, skyscrapers, and other idealized symbols of phallic power—is here reduced to strained representations. A flight is two people getting into a plane and then getting off at the same spot at the same airstrip; a plan for a top-secret weapon is a printout of a court decision tucked into a manila folder; a futuristic power source is a light emanating from behind a half-closed door; a three-hour speech is a man talking to the camera for a couple of minutes—and so on and so forth. The world seems to consist of a hotel lobby and a dozen rooms, two of which may actually be the same high-school gymnasium with different curtains hung over the back wall.”


40 posted on 09/19/2014 6:30:55 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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