Posted on 10/01/2014 6:20:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe
The man with the first case of Ebola diagnosed in the U.S. went to hospital feeling sick only to be given antibiotics and be sent home.
It was not until two days later that the man was admitted to the Dallas hospital and put in isolation, it has been reported.
It raises the frightening prospect that he was mixing freely with other people for a full two days while showing symptoms of the virus - the time when Ebola is most contagious.
The unidentified patient has been in isolation
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Painful!
BUMP to #65.
After viewing that interview, things just became even more concerning.
The main points Dr. Akintayo stated that caught my attention were:
‘Epidemic flairs at points that are not expected...’
Don't discharge Ebola patients into ‘the environment’.
He used the story of the woman who had Ebola that got on a bus and the Ebola is spread in a way you ‘can't imagine’.
But the most alarming part (which I was completely unaware of until seeing that video) is that even if a patient recovers from Ebola and is asymptomatic, they can still transmit the disease to others for up to 2 months later. Not good!
Heck yeah, to everything you said, whether or not this Ebola-stricken patient used the restroom. Anything he touched, or brushed onto, very likely got his germs on it. Any coughing or sweat would have it, never mind blood or feces. All bodily fluids.
I was a microbiology lab tech when I was younger. I wore face masks, gloves, coats, hair nets, booties, etc. Washing hands nearly constantly was a given. Cross contamination was always a concern. We were very controlled and disciplined in our handling of materials and specimens.
In a hospital waiting room, there won’t be nearly the same amount of concern about contamination. I hope that changes here and now. We have a lot of new viruses entering our country.
Here we go!
“Officials: Second person being monitored for Ebola”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/
This second one is very likely to be a family member or someone that was living in the house that he was a guest in. It also said in that article that he had much contact with children, who are now being kept home from school. IMHO, this is a long way from being contained. I hope I’m wrong.
We will learn more about Ebola and its transmission from this case. That’s for sure.
Thank you for the post and link.
You’re welcome.
Why are we letting anybody from these Ebola countries fly in here? Why is there not a total ban on these people - or at least a 25 day quarantine in a neutral location before they are allowed to proceed?
I think I did read the Canadian health care guidelines that alcohol based hand cleaners do kill it. That link is in one the long Ebola thread of yesterday, the one w over a thousand replies, if you want to review recommended health protocols. I think it’s in the 700 or 750 post range. I don’t have time to look it up right now, sorry.
What kills it: hand rub of at least 60-90 percent alcohol; 1:10 dilutions of bleach at 5.25 percent( common household bleach) for 10 minutes; heat 30-60 minutes at 60 degC ; boiling for 5 minutes; radiation; ultraviolet light.
We can handle scumbag muzzies, but we cannot handle pandemics. The perfect decimation.
Toilet splash is a perfect vector.
+1
Bingo!
How much you want to be he doesn’t have health insurance? That would explain being rushed through the emergency room and home with antibiotics.
Prayers up for you and for all who may come into contact with this horror just in the course of doing their jobs.
I put the BS in bold.
The initial symptom period is not when the infected is the "most" contagious. The most contagious period is the end stage of the disease.
Ebola is a blood borne disease. It stays in the blood until you bleed for whatever reason or the virus blows though capillaries, usually in the bowel and/or mouth or mucous membranes. Small amounts of blood are then shed in the sputum or excretions..
The CDC and other experts are not talking out their posteriors when they tell you this, over and over and over again..
I post this, not because I think that anything I say would make a difference in the least....It won't..
As of 2 weeks ago there were 200,000 outstanding visas from ebola countries that had not been used.
We can post most anything, but the facts will remain the facts, long after the experts have had their say. Those on the ground will have to do what works, will learn as the Africans have what does not work, and the lessons will be paid for in lives.
Viral load is highest right around the time of death, but mobility isn't much. There is a trade off, a balance point between viral load and ability to function which is likely the most dangerous, but having someone who feels well enough to go out and expose others, even with a lower viral load has more potential, imho, to spread the disease. With such a low ID50, the amount probably doesn't make much difference as long as they are shedding the virus. Remember, in this case, the virus is in all the bodily fluids, not just blood. Sweat, spit, tears, semen, vaginal secretions, as well as feces, vomit, and blood count, and contaminated surfaces have the ability to harbor the virus long enough for someone else to pick it up--especially in an urban environment.
Regarding the Dallas case, I don’t think he was shedding on the first visit, or at least it would have been difficult to do so. But on the second, he definitely was.
He had diarrhea and was showing the other symptoms and that is why he was admitted then..
So that is when he was dangerous...IMO
As to the other things, like urine, sweat, etc....
You still have to have blood in these secretions..and you will find it there in the end stages...
He was entering that stage when he presented on the second visit.
The stuff works fast once the viral load overwhelms the immune system.
Sure, it can live a while on surfaces..but the time seems to be a variant based on the what the substance it, temperature, humidity, and the presence or lack of anti-microbial chemicals.
These chemicals or agents are easy to apply.
They don’t do any of these precautions in Africa. or did not initially and these easy precautions are not being used by the locals.(they may not have access to things like bleach, for example) The reusing of gloves and garb, the collective sleeping arrangements, the ignorance and outrageous beliefs or the locals is all factoring into the loss of control of the outbreak.
I believe this is why the troops are needed there to protect and control ingress, egress and flow of people near our Army medical facilities, both existing and planned..That is why the engineers are there...(I was one)
Yet each and every bit of news along these lines, results in a chorus of protest. Most of which is totally unnecessary and hyperbolic..
I am pretty much just observing it now. Like I would some sort of social experiment. It does not seem to be going well, based on the stock market reactions today.
I hope not for my fellow laboratorians but I suspect it happened.
Anyway now the hematology analyzer and parts of the lab have been exposed to potential viral particles.
Ha ha just wait till one of these ebola pts comes in as a code.
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