Posted on 11/26/2014 7:03:35 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
FULL TITLE: "The moment Cleveland cop shot dead a 12-year-old boy in the playground: Footage captures moment officer killed Tamir Rice after mistaking his BB gun for a real weapon"
Cleveland police have released video footage showing the moment 12-year-old Tamir Rice was shot dead by a rookie officer who mistook his BB gun for a real weapon.
The boy was shot by Timothy Loehmann, 26, on Saturday after a 911 caller reported seeing a juvenile waving around a gun - but did not know whether or not it was real. Newly-released audio showed that the 911 dispatcher did not pass on this concern to the responding officers.
At a press conference on Wednesday, authorities released the 911 call, police dispatch calls and a grainy video showing the moment the officers arrived and shot the boy.
The footage shows Rice - who the officers thought was about 20 - reaching for his waistband instead of responding to police requests to raise his hands, police said. They fatally shot him just two seconds after pulling up in their cruiser, the footage shows.
VIDEO AT LINK
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Kids in the 50s and early 60s had a lot of toy guns, including BB and even pellet guns. (I remember the strongest warnings by my Dad for us to never shoot at each other, as it could “put an eye out”)
It is a good thing the parents and cops of the era didn’t shoot us dead.
In this case, I believe better police training, methods, tactics would have kept that kid alive.
No one is ignoring what happened. We can see what happened on the video released by the police: They pulled up and shot him.
As for reaching into his waistband, no one knows what was going through his mind in that split second. He was only 12. Maybe he was going to show them that it was a BB gun.
They should’ve watched from a distance first. It would’ve been obvious that a young boy was just walking around playing with something that he considered to be a toy.
In the 70’s, too. And, really, kids still play with toy guns today.
It seems as if the extremes in crime today have led to an extreme response from law enforcement.
“It seems as if the extremes in crime today have led to an extreme response from law enforcement.”
In Huntington Beach a few years ago, several officers surrounded a teenage girl on a school ground, who was wielding a knife. She moved toward an officer, and they shot her to death.
In Fullerton a few years ago, cops beat a mentally ill homeless man to death, and got off okay. It caused a huge local controversy.
I think cops need better procedures, methods and tactics.
The kid in Ferguson was a justified kill.
The 12 year old was not justified in my opinion, and I believe it will be resolved against the cops.
Agreed - better tactics are needed.
As you said, the Ferguson shooting was different - that one was justifiable as self-defense.
But these other cases come across as over-the-top reactions.
Exactly. There are legitimate reasons to criticize the police for using deadly force too quickly, and Michael Brown was not one of them.
IMO, the Brown case was jumped on by zero, holder and the race pimps because it happened in August, mere months before the 2014 election. They wanted to use this case to gin up votes from blacks. Because zero is an utter failure, and because the information from the convenient store and autopsy were made available, wise blacks didn’t take the bait.
There are legitimate cases of police overuse of deadly force against blacks (and everyone else).
The Brown case was the wrong hill to die on.
In simple terms ease what is cloward piven and how does it apply here
Wow.
So very sad. This young man has known nothing but disfunction and violence his whole life. Combine that with the mess that is the public school system, and it’s sadly very likely that this boy would have ended up in the prison system like his mother and father.
With this information, it’s reasonable to ask exactly WHAT he was doing pointing a bb gun at strangers in a park. It doesn’t seem like he was innocently playing.
The odds were not in his favor.
UPDATE
“Mayor didn’t backtrack on defense itself”
Family of Tamir Rice responds to city of Cleveland lawsuit defense language
http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/03/03/-06eaab5687bbb202.jpg
Samaria Rice, speaks to media during a press conference at Olivet Institutional Baptist Church, Tuesday, March 3, 2015. Her son, 12-year-old Tamir Rice died in a fatal police shooting last November. The family and their legal team were responding to language in the city of Cleveland’s “WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT FILED BY THE FAMILY.” Attorney Benjamin Crump stands left. (Marvin Fong / The Plain Dealer)
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/03/tamir_rice_family_reacts_to_ci.html#incart_river
Which is completely within the normal play patterns of a 12 year old boy. At least it was when I was a 12 year old boy.
It is like a kid finding a garter snake and running around scaring little girls on the playground.
Unfortunately in today’s world cops a trained to shoot first and ask questions later when it comes to boys and toy guns.
Considering that the cop shot him with 2 or 3 seconds of pulling up, the "shoot first and ask questions later" is the literal truth.
I’m with you
Damn the ugly nonsense here
He was a 12 year old
I have one...several actually
And they all have daisy and Benjamin and crossman
Frankly I’m not sure why the mods don’t delete posts extolling the virtues of murdering 12 year old thugs in training
It makes us look like nuts
No it’s not
It’s still perception
And as a cliche
Rationalization
Maybe the worlds oldest
“Well it looked like......”
Freeper cop love is like when someone farts during sex......
Exactly. That's the real issue. It's a risky job. They know that when they take it. They aren't an occupying force among the enemy.
The cops put themselves in a bad position. Why would you pull up right next to a person reported to have a weapon?They should have kept their distance and took some time to evaulate the situation.
I heard there were quite a few people in the park, and the kid had been waving the gun around.
I agree that some of the responses to this video were disappointing, to say the least.
I have three sons, and the way this boy was playing in the video is exactly what 12-year-old boys look like when they’re playing.
In some cases - like the one in Ferguson - the officers are justified. But not in this one. I think it’s clear in the video that the boy never had a chance.
But the video of the shooting clearly shows that in the several minutes prior to the arrival of the police that there were no people around the kid and he wasn't waving anything. The cop car pulls up and within 2 seconds after it stops the kid is lying on the ground, shot. So where was the threat to the police or anyone else that justified the shooting?
No shite
I think Columbine
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