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Can’t Have Your Cake, Gays Are Told, and a Rights Battle Rises
ny times ^ | 12-15-2014 | MICHAEL PAULSON

Posted on 12/16/2014 6:30:28 AM PST by Citizen Zed

Jack Phillips is a baker whose evangelical Protestant faith informs his business. There are no Halloween treats in his bakery — he does not see devils and witches as a laughing matter. He will not make erotic-themed pastries — they offend his sense of morality. And he declines cake orders for same-sex weddings because he believes Christianity teaches that homosexuality is wrong.

Mr. Phillips, whose refusal two years ago to make a cake for a gay male couple has led to a court battle now getting underway, is one of a small number of wedding vendors across the country who are emerging as the unlikely face of faith-based resistance to same-sex marriage.

The refusals by the religious merchants — bakers, florists and photographers, for example — have been taking place for several years. But now local governments are taking an increasingly hard line on the issue, as legislative debates over whether to protect religious shop owners are overtaken by administrative efforts to punish them.

In Colorado, where Mr. Phillips, 58, owns and operates a small bakery called Masterpiece Cakeshop, the State Civil Rights Commission determined that Mr. Phillips had violated a state law banning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in places of public accommodation. The commission ordered Mr. Phillips to retrain all of his employees, who include his 87-year-old mother, and to produce a quarterly report detailing any refusals to bake; in response, he has stopped accepting orders for any wedding cakes while he appeals the ruling to the state courts.

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I guess our government has nothing better to worry about while society crumbles. I wonder what the UN and N Korea have to say about the basic human right of gay cakes? /s
1 posted on 12/16/2014 6:30:28 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Zero fiddles while Rome burns.


2 posted on 12/16/2014 6:33:36 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed.)
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To: Citizen Zed

He should take orders for Genesis cakes, inscribed with artwork and this quote

Genesis 1:27-28 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/bible-verses-about-marriage-20-great-scripture-quotes/#ixzz3M4VEu0a3


3 posted on 12/16/2014 6:35:33 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Citizen Zed

I don’t get why gays don’t patronize gay business, instead they trample around like bulls in a china shop.


4 posted on 12/16/2014 6:43:17 AM PST by razorback-bert (Due to the high price of ammo, no warning shot will be fired.)
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To: Citizen Zed
"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

It's call freedom.

5 posted on 12/16/2014 6:48:17 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Citizen Zed
13 "Gay" Bakeries Deny Christian's Request for Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake Read
6 posted on 12/16/2014 6:48:36 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: razorback-bert

I think part of it is because liberal activists want to force others to conform to their liberal ideas.

I agree an obvious solution to the homosexual wedding issue is for homosexuals to patronize homosexual run businesses.

But, clearly they are trying to make a point in the larger society, and finding liberal judges who agree with them, that not baking cakes for homosexual weddings violates civil rights.

And they get a sympathetic hearing in the MSM, when these stories are covered there. It’s all political correctness.


7 posted on 12/16/2014 6:53:59 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Citizen Zed
I don't get it. Why would someone choose to bring in such a visceral, unalterable antagonism against their special celebration, which instead is supposed to be a statement of their shared love and mutual commitment?

Why jinx the celebration of their love by bringing in such a hatred for the event? I don't get it.

8 posted on 12/16/2014 6:55:51 AM PST by GBA (obama's reign falls on the just and the unjust)
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To: Citizen Zed

If this were my business it wouldn’t matter much what the court says. I would NOT bake them the cake. Period. End of discussion. Game over.


9 posted on 12/16/2014 6:56:03 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: Citizen Zed

Seems like most of this would not be a problem if the federal government would stay out of it. Remembering when they didn’t intervene in this sort of thing,there didn’t seem to be a problem.


10 posted on 12/16/2014 7:00:47 AM PST by oldtech
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To: Citizen Zed

Civil Rights legislation, as well intentioned as it may have been, was unconstitutional and set the bad precedent on this sort of thing.

There is simply no Constitutional basis for forcing private citizens to provide services to others.

If Jim the barber only wants to serve red heads or wants to exclude red heads, that should be totally up to him and no one else. He should not be mandated by law to offer his services to everyone.


11 posted on 12/16/2014 7:02:16 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Citizen Zed

This is a precursor to “the mark”.

Those with faith in Christ will either have to compromise that faith or be forced out of business.

And the homo-agenda is simply a weapon of the left to accomplish that.


12 posted on 12/16/2014 7:02:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I don’t get why gays don’t patronize gay business, instead they trample around like bulls in a china shop.

Because the LGBT Mafia seeks these confrontations because the governmental bureaus are filled with their 'friends' and thus it is a slam-dunk with a reward to the plaintiffs at the end. Either they get a monetary reward if the defending business remains solvent OR they drive it out of business with the maximum publicity.

A key aspect of the 'Gay Community' is their innate financial strength. Regardless of the occasional news story, the majority of them have no children and the subsequent expenses. The reduced expenses and time constraints gives them the scope to bring legal actions like this.

13 posted on 12/16/2014 7:03:48 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: SES1066

The article link below may show us a way to start to counter act the LBGTQ scourge on the World.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service/


14 posted on 12/16/2014 7:11:17 AM PST by BobNative
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To: Citizen Zed
Of course, many religious business owners are serving same-sex weddings without incident. But there are also refusals that go unreported because the couples turned away by vendors simply move on.

No bias in THIS article. And, I'd argue that this is exactly how it should be. I choose to patronize businesses that choose to serve me.

It ain't hard, but liberal crusaders sure try to make it that way.

15 posted on 12/16/2014 7:15:49 AM PST by wbill
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To: Dilbert San Diego
liberal activists want to force others to conform to their liberal ideas.

Right in one.

For instance, when I (a conservative) choose not to do something ... I don't do it. End of story.

But when a liberal chooses not to do it, they want to be sure that no one, anywhere, even CONSIDERS performing the act.

Truly, liberalism is a mental disease.

16 posted on 12/16/2014 7:18:40 AM PST by wbill
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To: razorback-bert
I don’t get why gays don’t patronize gay business, instead they trample around like bulls in a china shop.

Because they want to make an example of those who don't conform. This is "lawfare", and the "social-justice" crowd not only know how to play this game, they invented it.

17 posted on 12/16/2014 7:21:30 AM PST by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: GBA

It’s because, having been so “oppressed” for so long, the ultimate defiance of that “oppression” (getting married, which conveys state recognition upon the union) can also be used to drive their “oppressors” from the public square.

To many homosexuals (as is true with mant other “oppressed” groups) simple conveyance of equal rights isn’t enough. Those who oppose such rights, regardless of reasoning, must be punished for doing so. Both as a matter of revenge and as a warning/example to others.


18 posted on 12/16/2014 7:21:51 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: rfreedom4u

A lot of bakeries already have websites where they take orders and do deliveries. The solution for the bakery that is being directed by a court: First: Move; Second: Go strictly on-line and work out of your garage; i.e., no public face. BTW, we can always use more bakeries down South, y’all....


19 posted on 12/16/2014 7:26:23 AM PST by Nabber
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we can always use more bakeries down South, y’all....

As long as they can bake kolaches I’m all for it!!


20 posted on 12/16/2014 7:44:00 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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