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Jesse Ventura goes after 'American Sniper' publisher now
pionerr press ^ | 12-16-14 | Joseph Lindberg

Posted on 12/17/2014 5:30:46 AM PST by TurboZamboni

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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Travis McGee; All
IMHO
"And never a Seal..And NEVER served in Viet Nam."
hmm..IF these are the facts, then why weren't they brought-out in court..and the suit/trial
stopped in it's tracks?..stupid jurors? Don't the facts, lies, mis-information/outright
fabrications in court?

21 posted on 12/17/2014 6:43:40 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks; Travis McGee; All
IMHO
*oppss!*..fabrications matters in court?

22 posted on 12/17/2014 6:46:49 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: TurboZamboni
I read this on Newsbusters. It's illuminating.

"The standard that must be met to win a defamation case is near impossible to meet for public figures. They have to prove actual malice, and truth is an absolute defense. That is why these cases are rare. Even if someone is lying, proving actual malice is near impossible due to how high the bar is regarding what public figures must prove. In the Ventura case, the jury was instructed that they had to prove with clear and convincing evidence that Kyle either knew or believed what he wrote was untrue, or that he harbored serious doubts about its truth. The suit was brought long before he died. Ventura didn't sue a widow. She became a widow after the case had already being going on. There were hours of testimony of Kyle on tape. When Ventura's name was linked to the book, two things happened. The sale of the book, which was previously struggling, suddenly sky rocketed when Ventura was named as Scruff Face. The other thing that happened was that Ventura lost his show, his reputation was damaged meaning he couldn't get work, and he was publically being shamed. His ability to earn money was terrible underminded while Kyle's earnings skyrocketed. It was also determined that at least one other story in the book was also untrue. The high standards that must be proved were often mentioned in the media before the trial, but after actual malice was proven enough to meet this high standard, the media seemed to forget all about this fact after the case. Understanding well how Public Relations works, I don't believe it was Kyle's idea to do this. I believe that a Public Relations agent knowing that Ventura is disliked by the left and the right strongly urged Kyle to link Ventura to the book because of how easily it would draw attention to the book from all media outlooks while also causing universal alignment with Kyle and against Ventura, making sales sky rocket."

23 posted on 12/17/2014 6:59:30 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: TurboZamboni

Jesus. What a loser.


24 posted on 12/17/2014 7:02:56 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: skinkinthegrass

No less than the Star Tribune ran this story yesterday, identifying Ventura as a “former Navy Seal.”

It proves the lie, told often enough, becomes fact.


25 posted on 12/17/2014 7:17:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: camle
Just the college kids who bought his populist rhetoric and remembered his wrestling and/or Predator movie scenes.
26 posted on 12/17/2014 7:28:56 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: SkyDancer
...The suit was brought long before he died. Ventura didn't sue a widow...

...I believe that a Public Relations agent knowing that Ventura is disliked...

Thanks for posting this.

It would seem the same PR agent is probably responsible for the 'Ventura sued the widow' narrative we're seeing expressed here on this thread.

27 posted on 12/17/2014 7:29:16 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: PghBaldy

I hope there is a silver lining in that the book gets much more publicity and sales due to the increased attention due to the lawsuits. No publicity is bad publicity, especially in book sales.


28 posted on 12/17/2014 7:29:53 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: TurboZamboni
I heard Ventura state several times in various media before the trial it was not about money, it was about his reputation, all he wanted was the truth to be told.

I notice he has never offered to return the money.......

29 posted on 12/17/2014 7:33:02 AM PST by JParris
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To: TurboZamboni

I repeat:

dear jesse,

it matters not what secret you have found,
it matters not what aliens are living on the ground,
it matters not that you may have been another Viet vet,
it matters not any other undisclosed issue yet,
what matters most in this writer’s view,
is, once again, shame on you!
you couldn’t be a man, which the seals taught you to be,
you couldn’t take it, when dished on you, nosirree,
you had to be the wuss, and go to court,
like that team did, in football’s sport.
your pride which you sold, so long ago,
on those stupid fake wrestling shows,
which made you the laughing stock of my nation,
with your weird clothes on a TV station.

you couldn’t live with the disgrace of being punched in the face,
by a man who fought in a different time and place.
so you used the court to steal his widow’s mite,
and used them, again, because ‘your name was not right’.

YOU’RE the picture they show for a crazy Viet Vet,
YOU’RE the video they show of a politician not to vet,
YOU’RE the example of how to ‘not suck it up’,
YOU’RE the human who should just shut the (tr)uck up!


30 posted on 12/17/2014 8:00:36 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: JParris

whenever someone says “it’s not about the money”, it usually is.


31 posted on 12/17/2014 9:31:14 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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