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The Rise of Men Who Don't Work
The New Yawk Times ^ | 12/11/14 | Amanda Cox

Posted on 01/27/2015 6:48:16 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

At every age, the chances of not working have changed in the last 15 years. Teenagers are far more likely not to work. Older people are retiring later and working more. In the ages in between — the periods of life when most people work — the changes have been smaller, but they are still substantial.

In the late 1960s, almost all men between the ages of 25 and 54 went to work. Only about 5 out of every 100 did not have a job in any given week. By 2000, this figure had more than doubled, to 11 out of every 100 men. This year, it’s 16. (People in the military, prison and institutions are excluded from these figures.)

Of course, the economy was stronger in 2000 than it is today, with a lower official unemployment rate — the share of people not working and actively looking for work — than today. But for prime-age men, the rise in official unemployment explains only about one-third of the increase in not working.

The remaining two-thirds is made up of those who are not working and not looking for work. Every month, the Census Bureau and the Bureau of Labor Statistics ask these men who are not in the labor force to describe their situation. Are they disabled, ill, in school, taking care of house or family, in retirement, or something else? Here are the trends within some of the larger of those categories:

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: dsj02; economy
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To: proxy_user

Northeast Arizona - Indian Reservations...maybe Northwest New Mexico too.
The Black belts in AL and MS stand out too.
Appalachia stands out a bit too - WV and KY.
Northern Michigan looks a little dark also.


21 posted on 01/27/2015 7:17:18 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: ClearCase_guy; All

I agree with you, 100%. I am grateful to SOME of the women who went before me - who sacrificed ACTUAL blood and freedom so I could have a vote, join the military, etc. (Molly Pitcher, Susan B. Anthony, etc.)

But those worthless, WORTHLESS feminists sold so many women a bill of goods and they are 100% RESPONSIBLE for a huge chunk of our failing society.

I, for one, appreciate a man that will help me through life. Sure I can do it myself, but it’s SO much easier when you have two in the yoke pulling in the SAME direction. :)


22 posted on 01/27/2015 7:18:38 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: oldbrowser

See my post #22.


23 posted on 01/27/2015 7:19:43 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: dfwgator

LOL


24 posted on 01/27/2015 7:22:20 PM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Follow example of countries where everybody has a job. In those countries there is no unemployment checks from gov’t, no food stamps. I spent some time in just such 2 countries less than a year ago. Both are at the top of list in this Heritage report. Actually in Singapore the unemployment rate is MINUS 40% meaning there are 40% more jobs than citizens.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking


25 posted on 01/27/2015 7:27:22 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It looks like the predominant locations for the highest rates of men not working (in no particular order) are:

1. Appalachia
2. Indian reservations
3. urban ghettoes in big cities
4. very rural areas

Did I miss anything here?

26 posted on 01/27/2015 7:28:37 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Men who don’t work: Do they deserve rice?


27 posted on 01/27/2015 7:40:44 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“And somehow we have transitioned to a society in which the middle class is shrinking rapidly — and golly you need two incomes to even think about being middle class — and men increasingly do not work, and a great many people are on the dole.”

It’s pretty simple math. Labor is a commodity like any other, and its price is dictated by supply and demand. So, if you double the supply of available labor in a country overnight, while demand remains steady, what happens to the price of labor?


28 posted on 01/27/2015 7:42:02 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: oldbrowser

Wait...so if the women are outside the home working, and according to you they’re working to avoid housework (I’ve officially heard it all now with that one), why can’t the men who are home - and not working - pick up the slack with washing dishes and cleaning the house?


29 posted on 01/27/2015 7:43:06 PM PST by coop71
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Indian reservations, majority black counties in the south, coal country in eastern KY and WV, isolated rural areas. Most higher population urban counties and states don’t have high male unemployment. You also see high male unemployment in areas typically thought of as vacation and retirement areas, got to wonder about the metrics and if men who don’t have to work are somehow being included in those instances.


30 posted on 01/27/2015 7:53:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

They forgot the category of....men who are living off their baby mamas welfare checks and food stamps.


31 posted on 01/27/2015 8:06:42 PM PST by sheana
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m 63 years old and have been gainfully employed from the age of twelve. I could retire, but I’m single, old and enjoy my work. Hard to believe I’m paid so much to do so litlle.


32 posted on 01/27/2015 8:19:46 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: coop71

Oh please! Stop talking rationally.

And why can’t the spousal unit work in tandem wrt housework when both work outside the home?

I was a SAHM for many years so the house stuff was my area. Once I went back to work, it seemed like it stayed my area, lol. My husband does a ton and seems like a whole lot more than what my friends and acquaintances husbands do...


33 posted on 01/27/2015 8:24:04 PM PST by Twink
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To: Boogieman

If labor was infinitely interchangeable, the price would go down. But it’s not...


34 posted on 01/27/2015 8:28:04 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: golux

I see the county jail booking sheets every day. It is a parade of men who don’t know how to behave, shave or trim a beard, brush their teeth, comb their hair, have a tat that doesn’t look like an old ink pen. Drop out, sleeping all day, and just bumming around. Oh, there are a few that have good lives, but not many.


35 posted on 01/27/2015 8:30:55 PM PST by healy61
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To: Alberta's Child

You did. No one lives in the big patch of Idaho that is dark blue except the Idaho Batholith (i.e. endless mountains) which is one of the harshest environments in the continental USA. In the summer (June-September) there are some miners in there but that’s about it.


36 posted on 01/27/2015 9:00:59 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: umgud
Hard to believe I’m paid so much to do so litlle.

Civil servant?

Regards,

37 posted on 01/27/2015 9:26:44 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: fso301

“How much of this is due to the combination of the internet and near universal use of pre-employment background checks preventing people who made a mistake from never being able to put their past behind them?”

I suspect credit checks are keeping a good many from even getting to the interview process. I also suspect if you apply for a lot of jobs those numerous checks on your credit are used against you negatively.


38 posted on 01/27/2015 9:38:21 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Around about 1960 or so, feminists (who didn't have jobs, and didn't take care of a household -- they had a maid for that sort of thing) stood up and said, "We're bored and we don't like being second class citizens!" And they insisted on joining the workforce.

Reminds me of a commercial I saw about women and heart disease. Since more women entered the workforce, they have higher chance of heart disease and stroke which in many cases affected males more. I have nothing against women in the workforce if they get there by merit, but they also have to accept the consequences too.
39 posted on 01/27/2015 9:46:03 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: gogeo

Well, I was oversimplifying to illustrate a point, but the essential economics still stand. Labor is not infinitely interchangeable, but it doesn’t need to be so. It is interchangeable to one degree or another, which is enough to increase the supply.

All you can argue is that certain jobs or sectors might be affected less, or not at all, but the general effect doesn’t change.


40 posted on 01/27/2015 9:47:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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