Another ‘settled science’ topic is not so settled after all – Big Bang theory questioned

wattsupwiththat.com ^ | February 10, 2015 | Anthony Watts

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

We’ve all heard of the claim of “settled science” when it comes to global warming/climate change, and we’ve all heard of the “Big Bang Theory”, and I’m not just talking about the popular TV show. The scientific theory goes all the way back to 1927.

This is an artist’s concept of the metric expansion of space, where space (including hypothetical non-observable portions of the universe) is represented at each time by the circular sections. Note on the left the dramatic expansion (not to scale) occurring in the inflationary epoch, and at the center the expansion acceleration. The scheme is decorated with WMAP images on the left and with the representation of stars at the appropriate level of development. Credit: NASA

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the birth of the universe. It states that at some moment all of space was contained in a single point from which the Universe has been expanding ever since. Modern measurements place this moment at approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the age of the universe. After the initial expansion, the Universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, and later simple atoms. Giant clouds of these primordial elements later coalesced through gravity to form stars and galaxies. The Big Bang theory does not provide any explanation for the initial conditions of the Universe; rather, it describes and explains the general evolution of the Universe going forward from that point on. (Source: Wikipedia)

Now, it seems there’s a challenge to this ‘settled’ science, and a new quantum equation predicts the universe has no beginning.

(Phys.org) —The universe may have existed forever, according to a new model that applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein’s theory of general relativity. The model may also account for dark matter and dark energy, resolving multiple problems at once.

The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a “Big Bang” did the universe officially begin.

Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after—not at or before—the singularity.

“The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there,” Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html#jCp

h/t to Rick McKee

[Candor7]

This is like pulling down your pants. It makes you feel good, but what might others think?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That’s exactly what happens when people debate the Big bang theory of cosmology, which is my point. Glad you got it!

(People end up understanding little but feel good, all cuddly and cushy, that somehow they are secure in knowing that the cosmos has an order they understand, which is patently false.)

Its better to just get used to the groundlessness of admitted ignorance. Then we might learn something eventually.

[dr_lew]

So you’re saying that Hubble was a clown? a joker? to be brushed aside ?

That’s what I’m hearing.

[mdmathis6]

What do you mean?

[Candor7]

Not altogether. But my humble opinion is that his vision was perhaps too narrow, but hey, what the heck do I know? Nothing.

[dr_lew]

Well then, pull up your pants.

[Candor7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3D3pdDWO38

[The Duke]

I have for many years asked if the universe might be in a state of eternal oscillation.

[Candor7]

Well, pull up your own.LOL.

That’s the problem really in terms of observer/observed.

You can’t pull up your own because they are not altogether yours.

Humanity has yet to overcome that. When it does, it likely will have a huge impact on cosmology.

[logos]

“The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there,” Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org."

Maybe.

Or maybe, that's where the "laws of physics" begin.

[Fred Nerks]

And I always thought it was turtles all the way down...

[Fred Nerks]

The Essential Guide to the Electric Universe (EG2EU)

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

This Guide is intended for anyone who wonders how our Universe really works, and who might be interested in an intriguing and somewhat different point of view. Readers may be surprised to discover that many well-trained skeptics do not support popular ideas in astronomy and the space sciences...

[N. Theknow]

If there was a Big Bang, it was God snapping His fingers.

[fortheDeclaration]

In other words, something cannot come from nothing.
Only a ‘scientist’ could think otherwise.

[RoadGumby]

So, God has to perform creation on Your timeline for it to be correct. Gotcha.

[RoadGumby]

Apply that staement and reasonibg to The aTheory of Evolution.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Ernest. You wouldn't believe what I found when I did a web search on "big bang".

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[Pecos]

And the scriptures don’t say HOW He did it. At this point in our own personal lives, it doesn’t really matter. And we probably wouldn’t understand the math He used either.

[I want the USA back]

The “big bang” is not an adequate explanation for the origin of the Universe.

[trebb]

I guess they will need the original recording of God’s voice as He spoke it all into existence before they will know for sure....we are bound by time, which He created, and we cannot escape it until He welcomes us into His Realm of Eternity.

[WriteOn]

Metaphysics by physicists again.