Posted on 02/20/2015 6:35:30 AM PST by C19fan
Would you like some Campylobacter or E. Coli today? Raw milk in 26 U.S. states is now the best place to get it, since most readers of Science 2.0 are not going to have the opportunity to buy chicken from a street vendor in China.
That raw milk is risky and has no benefit is not news. In 2012 the CDC showed it again but clamoring for raw milk got even louder. It is in the news again, as part of the naturalistic fallacy that infects mostly the anti-science hippie left and a minority of people on the libertarian 'government can't regulate what diseases I should give my children' right. Like with vaccines and polio, or riding a bicycle on the freeway, just because you might have the right to do something stupid does not mean you should, and raw milk isn't better for you, it is worse. It is that simple. But it is getting more popular.
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Same here. I much prefer the real stuff. People would be amazed if they knew how much illness is spread daily by eating contaminated vegetables.
But living in a bubble is not healthy. Better to keep a strong immune system and eat whole foods where possible.
So this alarmist hogwash is just that -- another way to let the nanny state control every little aspect of our lives. If you want to drink raw milk, drink it. If you don't, don't. But don't yield yet another liberty to a bunch of know-nothing bureaucrats who demand to be your surrogate mothers.
I worked on a dairy farm and clean was the order of the day again and again throughout the day.
Poor sanitation is a far greater danger than raw milk.
The FDA allows you to eat worse than that. See the link in 13 or do some research.
I to drank raw milk when I was a kid. We got the milk from my cousin’s farm.
Brought it home in gallon jars. It is a totally different experience from what most people have about milk. To see the cream and butter fat rise to the top of the jar is to see what milk really is and to know what is missing from those plastic jugs in the grocery store.
The ‘whole’ milk you buy in the store is nothing close to what real whole milk is.
Good post! And the things you mentioned are never written about as health concerns it seems. Except drinking and driving and smoking tobacco. Smoking marijuana isn’t a concern.
What a crock of crap.
Have you ever wondered why it is that farm boys grow up so hale and hearty while city boys are pasty-faced and have half the strength?
All y’all don’t know what you are talking about.
I understood the point. I also agree that you should be able to buy what you want.
I was just interjecting that there are more modern options to Pasteurization that are equal to or better but are opposed by the same people.
Sorry fool. I drink raw milk from a local farm run by Christians who take in orphan boys. Their products are from grass-fed cows milk, unpasteurized (which chemically changes the natural enzymes) and with no GMO crap or medical additives... kind of like the way God intended.
I grew up drinking unpasteurized milk. It tastes much better, is nutritious. Much more sanitary than eating in a restaurant. Most of the human race used unpasteurized milk. Any food processing has a potential to get you sick. By the way, the United States spent about a hundred years getting its food supply safe but is has all been undone with free trade. Pesticides forbidden in the United States are used in countries that send up their food.
Having lived in both worlds I would say it is the hard work.
If you live on a dairy farm you work half a day before you go to school in the morning and another half a day after school at night.
An after school job for a city kid will rarely compare in in any way to the kind of hard labor a dairy farm kid experiences.
I've had unpasteurized milk right out of the bucket and I didn't die. There is zero reason that milk would contain fecal matter, except if it is attained in an unhygienic manner, doesn't matter whether it is pasteurized after or not in that regard, although pasteurization would ensure you get “cooked” fecal matter.
Consenting adult milks cow and sells milk to another consenting adult, have we not better things to do with our Federal government than police these people?
I’m thinking along the line of why my uncle the farmer, always wiped down the cows’ udders vigorously with a square of rough feed sack burlap that sat in a bucket of warm water with iodine in it. The same kind of iodine solution the family used to sterilize the milkers, strainer and all the surfaces the milk came anywhere near. Milk, fresh from da cow? You betcha, and Uncle and Auntie both made it into their 90’s! :)
But that same sh** used for your organic food is good for you.
By this FDA report, raw dairy products were responsible for an average of 115 sicknesses per year from 1993 to 2006: http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/consumers/ucm079516.htm
That is out of an average of over 100,000 cases per year: http://www.about-ecoli.com/
So, 0.11% of annual ecoli sicknesses come from raw dairy.
A few pointers about raw milk.
1) Farmers who follow good sanitation procedures almost never produce infected milk. Mass market milk producer’s cows produce very contaminated milk. Neither produce milk contaminated with very dangerous pathogens, like typhoid fever, that would not be permitted even with Pasteurization. So the most common “food poisoning” bacteria are Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are permitted in Pasteurized milk.
2) Pasteurization chemically changes milk, which affects its taste. It also does not sterilize milk, just reduces the number of bacteria to levels where it takes longer to spoil with refrigeration. Sterilized milk is unpalatable.
3) Ultra-High Temperature (UHT)(or “flash”) pasteurization almost sterilizes milk. For this reason, it can be stored for up to six months without refrigeration. However the milk has been so significantly chemically altered that it cannot be used in recipes requiring milk fermentation.
4) Raw milk makes Pasteurized milk taste like chalk dissolved in water. It is far more delicious and should be tried at least once, from a reputable farm that produces raw milk. It is worth the minimal risk for an adult, though it should not be given to children.
5) The dairy lobby is extremely powerful in government. For years it prohibited the sale of margarine entirely. Then it prohibited margarine from being yellow in color, so it had to be sold as white, with a dye coloring packet.
Most people prefer the convenience of mass market milk products, with raw milk, butter, cream and cheese for those with more gourmet tastes. As such, it should not be denied them, though a strong recommendation against giving these foods to young children should be made.
I don't see how I'm harmed if someone else drinks it.
I grew up on raw milk. I am 74 years old and I am extremely healthy. My dad would wash the cows teats and her entire bag with soapy warm water before he milked her. That took care of the fecal matter that might have been there.
Sorry, but that ain't right. The real world begins about twenty miles outside the suburbia you must live in. You should go there some time. Most folks there still eat out of gardens, pick fruit off of trees, and eat local raised beef. They also hunt and fish, and eat what they catch. Them hippies are just doing what the country folks have done all the way along. And I'll take that country life over anything you've got. It's the right way to live. Clean and good, and close to the earth.
If you “really” want to be all “natural” hand over all your electronic gadgets or STFU...: )
I'd miss my pooters if SHTF, but I surely don't need them.
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