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Tim Tebow 'throwing very accurate,' could try out at NFL veteran combine
CBS ^ | 3-9-15 | Will Brinson

Posted on 03/09/2015 6:58:10 PM PDT by dynachrome

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To: needmorePaine

Could there be a more lopsided comparison in the history of sports. Who’s better, Payton Manning or Tim Tebow. I mean really. One is the best quarterback in the history of the sport, and the other could not win a spot on the Montreal Alouettes. Where do this people come from. The cool aid is flowing.


41 posted on 03/09/2015 9:24:43 PM PDT by gusty
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To: nickcarraway

One TD pass does not make a career. Tebow’s problem was that pass was the only good one he threw. How many good passes do you think Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers have thrown, more than they could count, not just one. I was a pitcher in college baseball. If you put me in a MLB game, I could get a few major league hitters out, but not enough for any team to keep me around after that outing. That is Tebow’s story also.


42 posted on 03/09/2015 9:30:28 PM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty
Could there be a more lopsided comparison in the history of sports. Who’s better, Payton Manning or Tim Tebow. I mean really. One is the best quarterback in the history of the sport, and the other could not win a spot on the Montreal Alouettes. Where do this people come from. The cool aid is flowing.

It is ridiculous. If there were really a demand for Tebow's talents in the NFL, he'd have a job. Just as if there were demand for Michael Sam, he'd have a job. You can't champion one and dismiss the other based on your side of the culture wars. They are just not good enough. At some point, you have to assume that scouts, position coaches, coordinators, and head coaches actually know what they are looking at when they watch these guys in film and on the field.
43 posted on 03/09/2015 9:35:36 PM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: needmorePaine

Exactly. Part of the problem is the hoopla around D1 football. People see 90000 cheering SEC fans in the stadium and assume that everyone in the conference is destined for NFL success. It doesn’t work that way. The NFL is a whole different level of ball.


44 posted on 03/09/2015 9:41:40 PM PDT by gusty
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To: dynachrome

“Highly doubtful, but could be entertaining if it happens. “

They might be able to help improve his throwing accuracy, but nothing is going to improve his football IQ. I watched every NFL football game Tebow played, and not only did he nearly always throw the ball into the receiver’s feet or 10 feet over their heads, he also didn’t have a clue how to read a defense or how to read off his receivers.

He pretty much had a single receiver picked out he was going to throw to right from the get go, and looked at that guy the whole time.

And the last NFL game Tebow played, he was no better than the first one at reading the defense or reading off his receivers.

I can only assume Tebow was uncoachable, not because of a bad attitude, but because Tebow simply isn’t very smart.

And I don’t need to hear a bunch of guff about Tebow’s Christianity being the real issue. Peyton Manning is every bit as devout as Tebow, but Peyton also happens to be a genius of an NFL quarterback, unlike Tebow.

Really, performance is pretty much the only thing that counts in the NFL, which, sadly enough, is why a POS like Jameis Winston is going to be the number one draft pick this year.


45 posted on 03/09/2015 9:55:00 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: gusty
How many Tom Bradys and Aaron Rodgers are there out there? Not many. Is it really fair to compare a player who started a little over half a season to the top players in the league?

If every team could have a Rogers or Brady, the league would be a lot different. There are a lot of mediocre starters and a lot of terrible backups. Why aren't you comparing him to Blane Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Jason Campbell, Ryan Lindley, or someone like that?

(Blake Bortles had an 11 to 17 ratio, compared with Tebow's 17 to 9 ratio. I bet Bortles is still a starter)

46 posted on 03/09/2015 9:59:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: needmorePaine
If there were really a demand for Tebow's talents in the NFL, he'd have a job. Just as if there were demand for Michael Sam, he'd have a job. You can't champion one and dismiss the other based on your side of the culture wars. They are just not good enough.

Actually I think Tobow and Sam are both out of football for the same reason: nobody wants the circus. I have no doubt that Tebow could at least be a third stringer on some team but nobody wants to deal with all the baloney from the media. In Michael Sam's case, he's probably not very good but I suspect someone would have given him a shot but nobody wanted to deal with the constant "what's it like with a gay guy in the locker room" and all his own self promotion. Easier to just cut him loose and move on.

47 posted on 03/09/2015 11:08:21 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: willk
What a story it would be if he was successful.

Kurt Warner II!

48 posted on 03/09/2015 11:15:43 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: dynachrome

Have to get this in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqIrm4H9-7I


49 posted on 03/10/2015 12:10:21 AM PDT by JohnT416
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To: dynachrome

I hope he makes it, but doubtful.

Glad to hear his accuracy and spiral have improved.

But, his biggest problem has always been reading NFL defenses.

If he doesn’t see what he’s expecting, down comes the ball after a couple seconds, and he’s searching for a running lane, which he usually can’t find, either.


50 posted on 03/10/2015 1:39:49 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: nickcarraway

My memory is fuzzy but 1-15 is hard to forget


51 posted on 03/10/2015 4:25:20 AM PDT by GeronL (,)
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To: Oliviaforever

Slake?!?


52 posted on 03/10/2015 5:18:32 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: CyberSpartacus
I live in Denver and saw everyone of Tebow’s games. He made fewer mistakes then Manning. He never choked.

I'm a Denver Bronco season ticket holder and I like Tim Tebow. Manning is considered (and is) a great QB but the criticism of him choking in big games is valid. This past season it was against the Colts in the playoffs, the previous season against Seattle in the SB. The SB game against Seattle was a classic choke, Seahawks had points on the board within seconds of the game start when a pass from center went over Mannings head and into the end zone ... recovered by Seattle. The game went downhill from there ...

53 posted on 03/10/2015 5:43:42 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: needmorePaine

Really? Gou are putting T-bow and Sam in the same sentence?

Sam never played a game in the NFL. He played some preseason.

T-bow took a team to the playoffs.

That T-bow didn’t land a new gig is a surprise.


54 posted on 03/10/2015 6:01:22 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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Really? Gou are putting T-bow and Sam in the same sentence?

Sam never played a game in the NFL. He played some preseason.

T-bow took a team to the playoffs.

That T-bow didn’t land a new gig is a surprise.


It's not a surprise at all. He had a nice run of games (supported by a good defense), was replaced by a legend, and couldn't land a new job anywhere else because he wasn't really that good in the first place. Other young QBs have had a stretch of good games in a first or second year only to disappear after. It happens.

The point about Sam is not really comparing their impact as Sam's was non-existent while Tebow's was minimal. The point is some here will wonder why Tebow can't make it and even cry conspiracy but then in another thread would say the market is speaking for Sam and dismiss any claims he is facing discrimination.


55 posted on 03/10/2015 6:28:16 AM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: RoseofTexas

I would take Tebow over Romo any day!!
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Perhaps you should look up the QB ratings for the past few seasons.


56 posted on 03/10/2015 8:29:59 AM PDT by octex
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To: gusty

One is the best quarterback in the history of the sport...

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Really? How does Manning’s playoff record compare to Tom Brady or Joe Montana?


57 posted on 03/10/2015 10:31:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: acw011

He can certainly escape pressure...and run over some of it. That part wasn’t his issue.


58 posted on 03/10/2015 2:40:30 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: mtrott

Tebow had plenty of zip. He often zipped the ball right over his receivers heads. What he had wrong with his throwing motion was largely a *very* long windup, which telegraphed where short passes were going.


59 posted on 03/10/2015 2:43:57 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: nickcarraway

If every team could have a Rogers or Brady, the league would be a lot different. There are a lot of mediocre starters and a lot of terrible backups. Why aren’t you comparing him to Blane Gabbert, Christian Ponder, Jason Campbell, Ryan Lindley, or someone like that?

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Funny. You should tell that to the crew harping about his playoff record being better than Peyton Manning’s.


60 posted on 03/11/2015 4:42:07 AM PDT by dmz
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