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Is Ted Cruz Allowed To Run Since He Was Born In Canada?
npr ^ | 3-23-2015 | DOMENICO MONTANARO

Posted on 03/23/2015 10:36:02 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

There will be a question from some about Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's eligibility to run for president.

That's because even though Cruz grew up in Texas, he was born in Canada. (He renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2013.)

Democrats are sure to remind voters of Cruz's Canadian birth since some on the right have questioned where President Obama was born. The president is a native of Hawaii.

The U.S. Constitution says presidential candidates have to be "natural-born citizens." But the Supreme Court has never weighed in with a definition, leaving it open to interpretation.

It's a question that has come up before. In 2008, senators passed a resolution, making it clear, for example, that John McCain was allowed to run given that he was born on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, both senators then, voted for it.

Barry Goldwater, the 1964 GOP nominee, was born in Arizona when it was a territory – not a state. And some questioned George Romney's eligibility to run in 1968, because he was born in Mexico. Romney's parents were U.S. residents.

Cruz's parents worked in the oil industry in Calgary, Canada, when he was born. His mother was born in the United States. His father was born in Cuba, but later became a U.S. resident. Cruz argues that because his mother was born in Delaware, he is, in fact, a "natural-born citizen."

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To: Citizen Zed

The left will let him get nominated, then all together, they will all bring up this birth issue.
The filthy hypocrites cleverly hid the fact that 0 is not eligible to be president.


41 posted on 03/23/2015 11:14:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Wondering though....would this qualify Barry Soetoro-—even if born outside the US?

No b/c barry's dad was by no stretch an american and mom although american was not sufficiently old to confer citizenship.

So 0dumbo did not have citizenship at the time of his birth.

I'm going to start calling them birthers if/when they question Cruz's eligibility.

42 posted on 03/23/2015 11:18:42 AM PDT by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

It would be delicious!!


43 posted on 03/23/2015 11:23:18 AM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: pallmallman
Oh its going to be BIG FUN!!!


44 posted on 03/23/2015 11:24:54 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Citizen Zed
Cruz’ place of birth and antecedents raise interesting questions of eligibility.
45 posted on 03/23/2015 11:25:08 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: TxSynthMan

NBC had a specific meaning in the minds of those who wrote and ratified the Constitution. It’s seems most likely that it would be a term they were more or less familiar with, perhaps from common law.

That meaning cannot be changed by act of Congress, though it can by amendment.

I suspect you and I would differ on that definition, but I’m glad to find someone who doesn’t fall for the idiocy that Congress can by a mere law redefine it.

If Congress can make Obama ineligible by a law making his mom, supposedly, a couple months too young to pass on citizenship, then it could also redefine the term in a host of other ways. Perhaps by determining that white women can’t pass on citizenship to their children.


46 posted on 03/23/2015 11:25:18 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TxSynthMan

He is eligible b/c he is an NBC. He was a citizen at birth.

There. That was esay.


47 posted on 03/23/2015 11:25:33 AM PDT by Principled (Government Slowdown using the budget process!)
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To: Principled

How old do you have to be confer citizenship to your child?


48 posted on 03/23/2015 11:26:33 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: seawolf101

I have always believed a natural born citizen has two US born parents and is born on US soil or if born outside the USA the parents were on military or government assignments.


49 posted on 03/23/2015 11:27:54 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Ingtar
Yes. His mother was old enough and had lived enough years in the US after age 17 to confer citizenship, unlike Obama’s mother

Still holding out for the Kenyan birth hypothosis?

50 posted on 03/23/2015 11:31:31 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Lumper20
I have always believed a natural born citizen has two US born parents and is born on US soil or if born outside the USA the parents were on military or government assignments.

Wait, so because both my parents were born in Poland I am not a natural born citizen? God, I swear the birthers get crazier and dumber every time I read their arguments. I have never heard anyone make this argument before Odumbo became president, and I dare you to point to any article written before 2008 that has this definition.

51 posted on 03/23/2015 11:34:10 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Citizen Zed

There is no proof as to where 0bama was born.

And if one actually traces the whereabouts of his mother...it looks more like she went to Canada herself to give birth to her biracial baby at the time.


52 posted on 03/23/2015 11:34:21 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Lumper20
I have always believed a natural born citizen has two US born parents and is born on US soil or if born outside the USA the parents were on military or government assignments.

There is a vocal contingent of Freepers who agree with this definition, however, as the article state "Natural Born Citizen" is not defined in the COnstitution or the US Code, so definitions such are yours are really just theories at this point.

If that *were* the standard then Obama would clearly not be eligible for President: his father was not "US Born". I am pretty sure that there were other Presidents who had parents who were not born in the USA, though they had citizenship at the time the future Presidents were born.

The definition you have offered is about the very most restrictive offered by any birther. It's not the rules we are operating under today, obviously.

53 posted on 03/23/2015 11:35:16 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
Still holding out for the Kenyan birth hypothosis?

No. Obama's mother was too young to confer citizenship to him, so his father's citizenship would have applied by rule, British (later Kenya). This applied by rule no matter where he was born.

54 posted on 03/23/2015 11:35:42 AM PDT by Ingtar (Mourning for Freedom. I knew her well.)
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To: Citizen Zed

It depends on when Cruz’s father became an American citizen. The Supreme Court did rule on this issue in 1875


55 posted on 03/23/2015 11:39:42 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: EBH
There is no proof as to where 0bama was born.

I would respectfully disagree with your statement. To date:

Now you might claim all this evidence is fake and has been fabricated, or have other objections to its validity. But I think to say "none has been provided" is incorrect.

56 posted on 03/23/2015 11:44:37 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: garyb

That ship has sailed. If you elect someone that won’t produce a real birth record, only a forgery, uses a fake social security number, and has many people who say he was born in another country why even ask the question again?


57 posted on 03/23/2015 11:47:32 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Citizen Zed

Are there more than two types of American citizens, Natural Born and Naturalized? If not, then aren’t you Natural Born if you are an American citizen at birth?


58 posted on 03/23/2015 11:55:46 AM PDT by Texican72
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To: showme_the_Glory
His chances would be better if he was born in Kenya and claimed to be from Hawaii.....Oh wait.....That would never work.....Nevermind

LOL, You are right. It's already been tried.

59 posted on 03/23/2015 11:56:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. O glorious dawning)
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To: Ingtar
No. Obama's mother was too young to confer citizenship to him, so his father's citizenship would have applied by rule, British (later Kenya). This applied by rule no matter where he was born.

You are claiming that a kid born to a 19 year old American woman in America, with a father of foreign citizenship, isn't a US citizen because his mom is "too young". That's a ridiculous claim.

Consider the well known phenomena of "Anchor babies" These are kids born on US soil to two foreign parents. Yet, they are universally considered US citizens under our laws. (Thus, they become the 'citizen anchor' for the parents to get benefits and accelerated citizenship, thus the term.)

You might not LIKE this interpretation of the law, but you can't argue that it is universal.

I think you've gotten your interpretations of what NBC means confused.

The claim I remember (some) birthers making was that because she had been out of the country for so long (had she? or was this, again a "fact" that was asserted without any real proof) that somehow should could not pass on citizenship.

YOu have now enlarged that to be "no matter where he was born".

Birth on American soil alone, regardless of the citizenship of either or both parents, has been enough to confer citizenship since the 14th Amendment was ratified.

60 posted on 03/23/2015 11:56:44 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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