Posted on 04/23/2015 1:33:52 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
PEOPLE have been raving about the Apple Watch, so it is probably time for a rant from a devil’s advocate.
For starters, Apple’s smartwatch is neat, but that might be the only thing it has going for it. If the product’s intended function is providing you with around-the-clock health information, then there are a lot of roadblocks that need to be addressed.
Here are five: (...) 1. Battery life is as terrible as you would expect. 2. Too little screen for too much information. 3. It is too big. 4. Even the positive reviews are negative. 5. The Apple Watch could still fail. (...)
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I don’t know you.
You claimed to be 80 or turning 80 soon.
“I have nothing to prove. I’m turning 80 in June. Your idle threats have no impact.”
How would I know where you are posting from?
Are you okay?
Keep it up there, Jennie.
Send me a private message with all the 77th members you were serving with or knew. Then we’ll talk.
PM incoming.
I wear a watch now. Nice begging the question continuation of the rest of question 1, Up Yours. You assume the premise of your argument in your question. I won't give you that leeway.
The watch I wear costs three times the Apple Watch I am waiting delivery on. My Stürhling Edition Turbillon Mechanical Meteorite Dial in rose gold retails for $3400. . . and is a quite elegant man's watch. It was a gift from my girlfriend. I just gave her another expensive ring yesterday.
2. If you don't have a phone but want the watch, why would you want to buy both a watch AND phone just to tell time,
First of all, the Apple Watch does far more than "just to tell the time, what your pulse is, and who's calling you on the DICK TRACY line". Again, you set up a begging the question or petittio principii structure to your question. . . all of which is only partially true. This is an argument and debate fallacy. . . and you use it frequently. I made a list the other day of many reasons to have an Apple Watch. I won't repeat it here. You say it.
3. Do you like being chained to yet another useless accessory with the same functionality as what you already have on your phone?
More circular argument. . . assuming the conclusion you want. Your assumptions are that because it has SOME of the functions that are present on your iPhone, they are just as convenient as they would be in another form. Why does one need a cell phone? Don't you have one with the same ability to make a call at home? Same argument. . . different time. Convenience. . . but add that the two devices are NOT the same and one adds additional functions and features the other lacks. Your argument fails on that point alone. You phone does not have all of the same functions as the Apple Watch, and vice verse.
4. What's with the supposed "panache" of this watch that would make you believe you look handsome in its gender-neutral Tim Cook-style excuse for jewelry?
Have you looked at the watches being sold on the Shopping networks? The women's watches are almost indistinguishable from the mens' watches. No, they ARE indistinguishable from mens' watches except in size. The Apple Watch has a small size and a large size. Where the watches do differ on both the shopping channels and in the Apple Watches for gender it is in the watch bands in color and appearance. Some of the bands being offered by Apple are distinctly masculine in appearance, and some are distinctly feminine. Some are unisex.
5. Why would you buy this knowing Apple could axe it any time based on lack of profitability, an obvious admission by Apple itself? After all they failed to provide sufficient flagship supply, and expect overall portfolio sales projections to be low compared to their one-trick product, the iPhone. All accessories revolve around this single device anyway.
You are claiming facts not in evidence and some are pure fantasy land. Any product could be "axed" at any time, but Apple does not have a track record of doing any such thing. Apple has NOT made any "obvious admission by Apple itself" about any lack of profitability. . . with the only thing Apple admitting is overwhelming demand for the Apple Watch causing the initial stock to be sold out in under ten minutes WORLD WIDE. . . which you translate as a low provision for "flagship supply" when the estimates are initial sales were well in excess of 2.3 MILLION in ten minutes, three times the total sales of all smartwatches sold by all makers in all of 2014, which by anyone else's metric is phenomenal.
What an impressive heaping pile of LEADING FUD LOADED questions you've constructed, Up Yours Marxist. Simply hilarious.
Surprisingly, I find the Windows phones much easier to use — I had a HTC with Android and then got a company Lumia 1520 and love it.
it would be a great tool for Insurers — you sign an indemnity that the insurer keeps track of your fitness regime and health and raises or reduces your premium based upon the data.
I want to thank you for actually responding to the questions, after 205 replies of piecemeal arrogance.
A few observations...
I don’t believe you will give up a $1500 watch over a $500 pile of trash. Nobody will take you seriously. In aviation, a Sturhling or Breitling commands more respect and dignity. I believe you’re lying.
You don’t say what the Apple watch will do for you other than the standard “Dick Tracy” or biometrics features. Another lie because you don’t know what else it will do and it won’t enhance your life anyway. The “Apple Store” is bereft of promises on an accessory which isn’t being delivered on time anyway (ask me how I know).
Next, it’s YOUR job to tell us here on this fine site what the watch will do other than telling time, annoying the hell out of users with notices the phone already does, dying after 10 hours, and any biometrics it does without going under water and frying like a pancake.
Finally, ask 20 of your friends which watch they would wear. A stupid square piece of trendy crap, or a classy, timeless $700-$17000 timepiece. Something like “Would you pick a ROLEX, or an ‘Apple Watch’”. Or in your case, would you pick a Sturhling over an Apple watch?
You’re on slippery slope of lies here.
1. Battery life is as terrible as you would expect.
Actually it isn't. I do not intend to spend the day with my eyeballs glued to my Apple Watch. The various reviewers who use the Apple Watch were surprised to find that after the first day of novelty, when they got to actual day-to-day use, it tended to last a day-and-a-half before requiring a charge. It easily ran until they took the watch off at night to normally charge it.
2. Too little screen for too much information.
The screen is not intended to have scads of information. It is intended for glances to inform you of information and if you need more, scroll. If you want scads of information switch to your iPhone.
3. It is too big.
The author wants it both ways. . . small screen but too big. Too big to fit under a cuff like a regular watch. Wrong. The most popular brand of watches selling today are Invicta which sell from $50 to over $1600. The sizes of their dials which are usually round, although they do have some rectangular Invictas vary from 46 mm to over 54mm, and the thickness varies from 12 mm to 17mm. The largest Apple Watch measures just 42.0 mm by 35.9 mm and is 10.5 mm thick. and it weighs at most 69 grams in gold. but can be as light as 30 grams in Aluminum. It will easily fit under a cuff. It is smaller than my 48 mm Stürhling Edition Turbillon Meteorite in every dimension, and it easily fits under my dress shirt I wear with my Tuxedo.
You want to talk BIG? The Samsung Gear S is 58.1mm by 39.9 mm and is 12.5 mm thick. . . and in any form weighs 67 grams without strap. On a normal sized woman, it juts out on either side of her wrist.
4. Even the positive reviews are negative.
That is just a flat-out lie. There might be a few minor quibbles, but most of the reviews of the people who actually had an Apple Watch and used it, were not just positive, they raved about it.
5. The Apple Watch could still fail.
Another flat-out lie. Apple sold 2.3 million Apple Watches they had earmarked for delivery in the April 24-27 weekend in the first ten minutes of the Apple Online Store going back on line at midnite April 10, 2015 Pacific Daylight time in ALL MARKETS where they were debuting the Apple Watch for sale. This is an unheard of demand. . . and then they kept selling pre-sales for the following thirteen days. . . and sold out production runs for more Apple Watches for delivery all the way into September and pre-sales are continuing through the deliveries being made starting tomorrow. . .
The authors objections or not well thought out, or even right. I'd call them FUD.
Make that 2.3 million world-wide in 10 minutes. . . and millions more in the 13 days since. And you are probably right. There will be some available on the Refurb page. No doubt. However, I doubt you'll find that many.
The purchasers had lots of time to decide and were gnashing at the bit to buy.
Saw it, read it, regret his actions. He was one sick fellow. I hope he gets the help he needs.
In a way, you are right on the high end Apple Watch Editions in 18K gold. Surveys of buyers found that most of them were bought as gifts for others. That makes the giver look good to the recipient.
There are many watches whose functionality is just as good or better than a Rolex. Why do Rolex owners buy Rolex Watches and not the others?
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First non sequitur. No one has claimed it is a phone.
Second, nobody needs constant attention to their biometrics. Unless they’re in a coma. Or ICU. No watches there either.
Second non sequitur. No one has claimed they are intending to do that. However, some doctors are saying it has some great potential for doing that for very thing for patients who DO need monitoring.
Third, I have an iPhone (soon to be dropped for a new Samsung, thanks to the grandson). No, it’s not for me anyway because it’s a useless trinket.
Then why are you so concerned about this bauble (obviously your conclusion), when it isn't for you. You have spent an inordinate amount of time and effort on something in which you've no interest. This makes this whole thread you've posted a non sequitur for you.
Fourth, any “watch” that requires you to babysit it and CONSTANTLY flick your wrist to wake the damned thing up is no watch. Because watches tell time regardless of whether it’s “asleep” or not. Watches tell the TIME, not tell you what your idiot cousin sent you in an email.
You are assuming facts not in evidence or based on trivial evidence. There is no "constantly flick" of the wrist required to wake the Apple Watch up. You make your complaint based on mistaken assumptions and ignorance of its functionality. The watch doesn't tell you if you've received email unless you've set it to tell you that. . . it is entirely up to you what it tells you, including time.
Fifth, recharging without even a stand to do it (got to plug the thing in) is yet another annoying thing you have to do during the day. Aside from taking it off, then putting it back on, it’s another distraction to life. Buckle. Unbuckle. Charge. Charge. Charge your phone. Charge again. Buckle. Unbuckle.
More abysmal ignorance. You have no idea what you are talking about. The straps on the Apple Watch are easy removal and it does not require "plug the thing in".
You have a lot to learn about the elegance of simplicity.
LOL! ROTFLMAO! You, lecturing Apple on the elegance of simplicity? Pardon me while I laugh some more!
What makes you so absolutely certain that Apple Mac and iPhone users are BLIND. You blindly have a knee jerk reaction to any Apple thread and immediately go into an attack mode on the users and Apple products, claiming the users buy Apple products because they are "stylish" or they users are blindly buying because it is Apple. You said you had an Apple iPhone. Were you BLIND when you bought it, or did you make a considered well thought out decision?
Then if that's the case, why are you treating all Apple users like Lemmings when by my estimate, only about 10% of the Apple users on here have indicated they are interested in buying the Apple Watch. That is not the action of BLIND LEMMINGS, Up Yours Marxists but you act as if every Apple user is being forced to buy it and will walk in lockstep to the Apple Store maxed out credit card in hand to add more to their debt to own an Apple Watch. You could not be more wrong.
Some of us have well considered reasons for buying one. I do. I have listed them before. My girlfriend has mentioned the benefits for her, which I have listed here. Others have listed the reasons they have. Every single one of them YOU have dismissed because they don't happen to be something YOU personally would not need those purposes.
Apple has no expectation of every iPhone user buying an Apple Watch. . . the demographics show that 6 to 10% of iPhone users are likely to do so. If that number holds true, Apple will sell 48 to 80 million Apple Watches. $34 Billion to $56 Billion in revenue. That's a success in anyone's book. If they sell more, GREAT!
What you cannot do in your thesis, is demonstrate that Apple is a Svengali "telling stupid schmucks" or anyone to buy anything. With that claim you paint your insult to everyone of the 700 members of the Apple Ping list on FreeRepublic as "stupid schmucks" and let them know your very low opinion of every Apple user here. It has been extremely obvious with your posts dripping with derision.
You insult the intended audience you want to reach. . . or are you posing for the small minority who mirror your attitude, the Apple hate Brigade who will cheer you on in your delusional claims of Apple being a puppet master to over 800,000,000 purchasers of Apple iOS devices and nearly 100,000,000 Apple Macintosh computers? Can you not see the non-viability of your basic premise? That Apple can somehow pull the wool over almost a BILLION people, forcing them to buy Apple products merely because of "style" or "coolness," and continue doing it for now almost 40 years?
Perhaps it's time for you to re-examine your basic assumptions.
Where did you get your training in jumping to conclusions?
That question does not follow at all from the reply that Star Traveler made to you. So it's another one of your non sequiturs.
The implied threat is interesting too.
I may start a running count on the non sequitur replies you make.
You need to learn how to behave like a civil human being.
Here is an example. Emulate him!
Did Ford tell you to buy all those cars??
You seem to think Apple is telling its customers to buy there products.
And it doesn't make any difference who was running Ford at the time, the same way it doesn't matter who is running Apple.
So why do you buy all those Fords?
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