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Where will Microsoft find 1 billion devices for Windows 10?
Computerworld ^ | 05/06/2015 | By Gregg Keizer

Posted on 05/06/2015 2:47:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: CarmichaelPatriot
The willingness of MS to trash their existing platform and adopt a completely new one is reason enough for me to predict they will not come anywhere close to their targets.

Kind of like what happened when Apple forklifted the Motorola procs and switched to Intel?

21 posted on 05/06/2015 4:10:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Kind of like what happened when Apple forklifted the Motorola procs and switched to Intel?

P> Not even close. That was 10+ years ago and Apple maintained dual support for years. Applications were available for both during that period, and the overall look and feel of the system was so similar that there was no learning curve to speak of for end users. Apple's 32 bit to 64 bit evolution was even more transparent to the users, with peaceful coexistence between the two for several O/S releases. MS has a bad habit of forcing users down a path, then abruptly chaning directions. They haven't learned to keep what works and add to it and the cost overhead involved in new hardware every couple years would bankrupt users who try to stay on the cutting edge, whereas Apple still supports in some fashion hardware that is over 5 years old, even on the latest O/S. I know many people still using 2007 - 2009 Macbooks and Mac Pros, some with the latest version of OS X (I'm running Yosemite on a 2009 Mac Pro and 2011 MacBook Pro with no issues at all. I'm even able to use the newest features, like Continuity and Handoff, after a minor Bluetooth upgrade.).

22 posted on 05/06/2015 4:24:54 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
They haven't learned to keep what works and add to it and the cost overhead involved in new hardware every couple years would bankrupt users who try to stay on the cutting edge, whereas Apple still supports in some fashion hardware that is over 5 years old, even on the latest O/S. I know many people still using 2007 - 2009 Macbooks and Mac Pros, some with the latest version of OS X (I'm running Yosemite on a 2009 Mac Pro and 2011 MacBook Pro with no issues at all. I'm even able to use the newest features, like Continuity and Handoff, after a minor Bluetooth upgrade.).

And Windows 7 was released in 2006 and is still very well supported. You need to find a different drum to beat, that one is ringing kind of hollow.

23 posted on 05/06/2015 4:33:04 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: doomtrooper99

Thank you for the advice. I have used a number of disc imaging software products over the years but have never tried Macrium Reflect. I usually just use whatever freeware is available on the latest edition of Hyren’s Boot CD. http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

The problem one has occasionally with Windows 7 is that the original configuration is actually kept track of and will only allow a certain number of configuration changes before a call to Microsoft is necessary to re-register. This is not generally an issue with something like a brand name laptop where not a lot of configuration changes have been made.


24 posted on 05/06/2015 8:37:12 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“The willingness of MS to trash their existing platform and adopt a completely new one is reason enough for me to predict they will not come anywhere close to their targets.”

Yes. They totally lost it when the trashed MSDOS and moved to windows.

“There’s a reason people keep their iPhones and iPads for years.”

iPhones are fashion statements. You don’t make a statement if you are using last years model.


25 posted on 05/06/2015 8:38:23 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“whereas Apple still supports in some fashion hardware that is over 5 years old”

hmmm. Only 5 years? MS supported XP till just recently. That’s about 14 years!!!!!!!!!!

My Intel 4770k machine runs Windows 8.1 but with just a click I can run MSDOS just like in the 80’s.

Additionally, 8.1 has compatibility modes to allow it to run programs that are only compatible with older versions of Windows.


26 posted on 05/06/2015 8:48:57 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: tacticalogic

Me: Ahah! Windows Embedded Compact.

You: The W10 version is dubbed “IoT Edition”.

IOT is used to bring remote information to the cloud for analysis and integration with other applications.

Windows Embedded Compact is a hardened mini-version of windows for use in equipment control.


27 posted on 05/06/2015 9:01:36 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

They work and O/S updates usually add functionality that other platforms introduced years earlier.


28 posted on 05/06/2015 9:03:04 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“I’m running Yosemite on a 2009 Mac Pro and 2011 MacBook”

I am running Windows 8.1 on a 2008 PC and it was budget priced Best Buy system.


29 posted on 05/06/2015 9:05:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“There’s a reason people keep their iPhones and iPads for years.”

My wife had to dump hers when her daughter upgraded her iPhone since certain new features wouldn’t work on her old iPhone and she couldn’t upgrade to the latest OS.


30 posted on 05/06/2015 9:13:21 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

“They work”

Did you here of the apple app called “WIFRIED”?


31 posted on 05/06/2015 9:17:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: tacticalogic
Just for the sake of accuracy:

> And Windows 7 was released in 2006 and is still very well supported.

2006? You're thinking of the much unloved Vista. Windows 7 was RTM mid-2009 and general availability was Oct 22, 2009.

Support? Win 7 is no longer supported for feature changes/upgrades -- the last upgrade release was SP1 four years ago (Feb 22, 2011). Mainstream support was terminated this past Jan 2015.

Microsoft cut off retail and OEM sales of Win 7 last Oct 2014. The Professional edition is still available officially as a "downgrade option" for Windows 8 sales, but otherwise Win 7 is considered functionally obsolete by Microsoft.

The good news is Win 7 will get security updates until 2020, at which point it will become completely unsupported, as XP is now.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Win 7 and intend to keep running it until 2020 and probably beyond that on my air-gapped machines.

But that's not because Microsoft is supporting it. It's because it's the best OS Microsoft has ever produced, IMO.

32 posted on 05/06/2015 9:20:42 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored
Just for the sake of accuracy:

You are correct.

33 posted on 05/07/2015 3:22:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: dayglored

http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/win10-build-10074-whats-new-whats-unknown/


34 posted on 05/07/2015 4:26:05 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
> Win10 build 10074: What’s new, what’s unknown

Nice article! I think it's worth a separate thread of its own. I don't have time at work but I'll get to it tonight.

(Or if you decide to post a thread on it yourself, just please ping me to the thread and I'll add the Windows Ping List stuff to it.)

Thanks!

35 posted on 05/07/2015 7:25:09 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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