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Tom Brady will be suspended by Goodell for role in DeflateGate, announcement next week
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | 5-8-2015 | Gary Myers

Posted on 05/08/2015 3:06:44 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: Burma Jones

The rules are ambiguous as to what length he has to go to to cooperate. On the other hand, if he turns them over, they can do whatever they want with them...like selectively leak them, or release personal communication with his mother...like they did with McNallys texts.


361 posted on 05/09/2015 7:04:54 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I am aware of what the texts say.


362 posted on 05/09/2015 7:15:18 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: lepton

Well, it’s 144, so anyway.


363 posted on 05/09/2015 7:15:36 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37

There’s no reason to believe any of the footballs lost air from play.

He’s also wrong about the Colts balls measurements...and about the Pats balls measurements...and the weight of any NFL football...and about the effects of temperature...and what the report says.

I find figure 24 on page 210 quite interesting - its the warming curve in time during a simulated halftime.

Actually, apparently I missed that the difference between wet (but not sodden) and dry balls is shown to be potentially .5 PSI in figure 27 on page 213, not merely 0.3. Elsewhere values of .1, and immeasurably small “undetectable” volume changes are given.


364 posted on 05/09/2015 7:19:34 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: driftless2

According to Fred, the Colts were using 12.5 pound balls...which would explain the difference in score.


365 posted on 05/09/2015 7:21:12 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yup...and we see silly stuff go through that all the time.


366 posted on 05/09/2015 7:22:11 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I am just tired of people saying that if I can’t or won’t follow what they are getting out of all this, then I am stupid, or slow, or low IQ, or dimwitted, or a brady nut hugger, or a Patriots fan, or any number of other things that seek to belittle my position.

My stance is that if you want me to believe your accusations against Brady, then prove it to me. So far, I don’t see that they have proven anything, because they cannot rule out other possibilities or scenarios.

They just basically say that we have this, and this and this, so it proves that, when it does not prove that at all.

This guy telling me that the Brady not turning his phone over indicates his guilt, no the Hell it does not, it indicates he doesn’t want to turn his phone over is what it indicates.

It boggles my mind that people are completely out of sorts over air pressure in a football.

I am I am truly at a loss to even explain that.


367 posted on 05/09/2015 7:25:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Kazan

The league has texts clearly stating that Brady requested balls be deflated from an illegal near-16 PSI.

Not quite what you are stating, though it’s not likely your fault, as the report slid context away from the texts. There’s a bunch of clever stuff like that. You’ll never see it in excerpts, and might not unless you go back and look at the references.


368 posted on 05/09/2015 7:29:50 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Kazan

No NFL QB wants his footballs to weight 12.5 to 13.5 pounds.


369 posted on 05/09/2015 7:31:08 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Yes.


370 posted on 05/09/2015 7:34:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kazan

There is proof the balls were deflated and that ball boys deflated them at Brady’s request


There is strong suggestion the balls were deflated from an illegal over-pressure in OCTOBER, to legal levels, and that the ball boys did this at Brady’s irate request.


371 posted on 05/09/2015 7:35:36 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Straight Vermonter

He cooperated. He just didn’t hand over the contents of his cell phone.

Only an idiot would do that, unless he had specific proof that would exonerate him. Regardless of his involvement there’s not much likelihood of that.


372 posted on 05/09/2015 7:38:29 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: chris37

Well, if he broke the rules by not cooperating, I have no problem with him being punished for that.


When the Chargers were found to have been applying stickum to their game balls during a game a couple years ago, there was no penalty for the offense, and a $20k fine to the gem for refusing to turn over the towels used to do it .


373 posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:10 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: dfwgator

I haven’t dug full into the bounty gate thing, but part of Sean Payton’s offense was signing a document saying he’d ensure the practice was halted, and not.


374 posted on 05/09/2015 7:45:53 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Kazan

Joking about what other than deflating the balls?


Actually they were repeatedly discussing over-inflating the balls just to tick Brady off. I interpret that as joking.


375 posted on 05/09/2015 7:49:48 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I really hope I’m not about to see someone get more suspension time for air pressure questions than the guy who knocked his wife out.

That would make me quite angry.


376 posted on 05/09/2015 7:53:13 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37

Brady is known to have publicly stated he likes balls at the lower end of the range, and to have insisted on 12.5 PSI. He is not known to have stated he wants the balls below 12.5.


377 posted on 05/09/2015 7:56:14 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Defensive backs also benefit from softer balls.

Sports Science showed that the ball arrives at the receiver slightly later (a couple inches at 25 yards), and is less accurate itself. It also showed that it allows something like 3% more grip...which is less than the variance between footballs. Add in asymmetry from unequal wetting and it’s completely silly.


378 posted on 05/09/2015 8:00:52 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: FredZarguna

Hey...an attempt at math. That’s good.

Unfortunately you apparently live in a literal vacuum.

Add 14.7 PSI to the starting pressure and subtract it when you’re done if you live in an atmosphere.


379 posted on 05/09/2015 8:06:06 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: DoodleDawg

Yes, each team supplies their own game balls - at least 12. the NFL supplies kicking balls. The home team supplies a pump and needle for the refs to adjust as needed before the game.


380 posted on 05/09/2015 8:13:13 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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