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Five Things To Learn from the Biker Gang Gunfight in Waco
Gunsamerica ^ | 5/26/15 | Blannelberry

Posted on 05/26/2015 11:21:01 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 05/26/2015 11:51:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Nine people were killed and 18 people were injured Sunday in a motorcycle gang gunfight outside a restaurant in Waco, Texas.

Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton described the incident to local media, thusly, “It is one of the most violent scenes I’ve seen in my 34 years as a police officer in Waco.”

Yikes! It was an apparent bloodbath at Twin Peaks, the name of the restaurant. Police recovered over 100 weapons from the surrounding area, including chains, clubs, knives and guns. And at least 165 people were arrested, the majority of which have ties to five different biker gangs. Thankfully, no civilians or police were injured or killed.

Needless to say, it was quite the crime scene. And it got me thinking, what can one learn from this scenario? Well, here are five lessons to take away:

1. Avoid Large Groups of Nefarious Characters

Based on reports, it appeared that the establishment was a known biker hangout. And that the dispute may have been over a parking spot. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t want to go to a place where one is bound to get killed over a stupid parking space.

What I mean to say is that, yeah, I’ve watched the television show “Sons of Anarchy.” And yeah, motorcycle gangs are cool in theory (i.e. in cinema, on TV) but that doesn’t mean I want to be around one in real life. Same holds true for mobsters or any other group of shady individuals. When possible, steer clear of folks with a bad reputation. If you know where they congregate, don’t go there. Go to Applebees instead.

2. Leave Before the Trouble Starts

Duh! This is a no-brainer that goes hand and hand with number one. Assuming you don’t know the area and end up going to a place that feels off (your spidey senses start tingling), leave.

Think about it. Pretend for a moment you’re eating lunch with your family at Twin Peaks and all of a sudden hordes of bikers pull up to the restaurant. Do you stick around to see what happens? What kind of food they order? Nope. Not a chance. Perhaps on a normal day or by the numbers, 9 out of 10 times, nothing will happen. But do you really want to be around for that 10th time? Don’t think so. Grab the check from the waitress, a few to-go boxes and skedaddle.

3. Assume Everyone is Armed

Maybe I’m weird, but I go through life assuming almost everyone is armed. Not babies, but everyone else. It’s a prepare for the worse but hope for the best type of mentality. So, if I’m in a crowded situation, I’m always concerned about (a) Who is behind me? and (b) Where are the exits?

If there are people behind me, chances are they’re going to beat me to the draw because I can’t see them. Therefore, I want to know how many there are at my six and if/where I can situate myself to minimize exposure to them. Just makes sense. Get to a place were you can hopefully see everyone. Now, it’s not always possible, but when it can be done, do it.

With respect to the exits, you never know when a situation will “pop off,” so to speak. But when it does, it often happens very quickly, in which case you want to move out of the danger zone or line of fire as fast as possible. Without knowing exactly where and how far away the exits are, this will be a problem. Always search for and find the exits.

4. Numbers Matter

Look, I may have a handgun on me with a couple of extra magazines, but in a situation where there are hundreds of people with various weapons, I’m not only outgunned, I’m outnumbered. I’m already starting at a great disadvantage. In this scenario, flight over fight is ultimately the best strategy for surviving.

5. Don’t Get Involved.

If someone at the grocery store or at a restaurant takes my parking space, I might bitch to my girlfriend about it in the privacy of our vehicle — but I ultimately let it go. I don’t let the minor offense ruin my day. Overall, I tend to ignore rude people. Life is so much better this way.

I’d highly suggest everyone adopt this mindset. Ignore rudeness. Don’t get involved in a confrontation over something trivial, e.g. a parking spot. Ask yourself this, are you willing to die for it? If not, let it go and don’t get involved.

Conclusion

So there you have it, five lessons one can learn (or help be reminded of) from the biker gunfight in Waco, Texas: avoid sketchy people, leave before trouble starts, assume everyone is armed, assess the relative size of the threat, and don’t get involved unless you absolutely have to.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; drugdealers; secondamendment; texas; twinpeaks; waco; wacobikers
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To: justlurking; Sasparilla

Ok, #5 is there, just missing a number...duly noted.


21 posted on 05/26/2015 11:55:35 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: pabianice

Even grungy looking bikers in tattered clothes can have a fairly sophisticated PR team and plenty of bucks to spend on it.

This is the face of the Cartel American Style.


22 posted on 05/26/2015 11:58:41 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: TexasGunLover
You mean where the cult that was abusing children?
How about the Benghazi video? Believe that too?
23 posted on 05/26/2015 11:59:25 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wheat_grinder

I’m reminded of the Waco DEA debacle daily. The tank used sits less than a quarter mile of my business in front of the American Legion Building.


24 posted on 05/26/2015 12:01:08 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: SkyPilot
"Breasteraunts "

LOL

25 posted on 05/26/2015 12:01:55 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Correction, Waco ATF debacle.


26 posted on 05/26/2015 12:02:05 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: pabianice

I learned “GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT”.


27 posted on 05/26/2015 12:03:11 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Parley Baer
I guess during his 34 years he missed the Branch Davidian massacure there in Waco.

Yeah, I did too. Refer to Rule #1.

28 posted on 05/26/2015 12:06:06 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: pabianice

One thing I’ve taught my kids is to stay away from places where alcohol is the main attraction and purpose.


29 posted on 05/26/2015 12:16:54 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: Parley Baer

Years ago the city fathers removed the letter “K” from the name so no one would understand what kind of place it is.


30 posted on 05/26/2015 12:16:57 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: pabianice

Dang.

I expected an article from Guns America would be all about praising the poor biker victims and blasting the scum cops who massacred these heroes as they shot them in the back.


31 posted on 05/26/2015 12:24:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: MrEdd

We
Ain’t
Coming
Out.


32 posted on 05/26/2015 12:29:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Heck my life is ultra-boring. Sounds fun to me.


33 posted on 05/26/2015 12:31:08 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Ft. Lauderdale FL (zombie land). TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: TexasGunLover
"You mean where the cult that was abusing children?"

Was that charge ever proven..?? Or was that just government propaganda to help Janet Reno cover her most gargantuan behind.....?

34 posted on 05/26/2015 12:31:55 PM PDT by unread
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To: TexasGunLover

Was he talking about klintoon, the ugly lesbian Reno and the ATF burning children?


35 posted on 05/26/2015 12:37:24 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: pabianice
"If there are people behind me, chances are they’re going to beat me to the draw because I can’t see them."

If they're in front of you with you expecting them to draw, they'll probably beat you to the draw, to. Mental reaction time plus physical reaction time. It's long enough for them to draw and shoot you. But most likely, you won't be expecting them to draw and will be distracted by something else, too.


36 posted on 05/26/2015 12:41:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: T-Bird45

#7 would be, don’t stand outside in the parking lot shooting at the SWAT cops who are armed with automatic weapons and full body armor.


37 posted on 05/26/2015 12:41:24 PM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: TexasGunLover

I think it stopped short of burning them. That was left to the Feds.


38 posted on 05/26/2015 12:41:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: theBuckwheat
"The officers faced suspension or even firing, but police chief Charlie Beck elected instead to let them all return to duty once they undergo some additional training, according to a memo obtained by the AP."

They were on the lam to wait for the situation to cool down. Then they made their move.


39 posted on 05/26/2015 12:54:42 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: unread

Some people just like the taste of licking jackboots.


40 posted on 05/26/2015 1:02:36 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (It is not heaven, it is Iowa. Everyone gets a "Corn Check")
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