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Intelligent Robots: The coming jobs massacre and a more violent world
Reuters ^ | 05/27/2015 | John Lloyd

Posted on 05/28/2015 7:46:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Resolute Conservative

Haven’t seen that movie, but such a world isn’t impossible.


21 posted on 05/28/2015 8:30:52 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The Amish have a solution that works for them. There will be a boom in copycat communities at some point. It might be fun to start one. It could be argued the global warming cult is an Amish start up. Its early leaders are living large.


22 posted on 05/28/2015 8:32:57 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Army Air Corps
In his writings, Marx envisioned a future in which people would be “free from labour” and focus their energies on being artists and philosophers.

That is indeed the attraction of Marxism for so many intellectuals. But it doesn't offer many prospects for the 99.9 percent who are not fitted to be artists and philosophers. Life without purpose is hard. Life in which one has no opportunity for achievement and distinction breeds resentment. And resentment is the glue that holds the left together.

23 posted on 05/28/2015 8:36:37 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Chainmail

I think you and I are on the same page.

This is THE problem of this century and nobody is talking about it.

The difference being that in the automated world the wealth will be available for most to live far above what we would now consider “a modest life.”

Yet there is no guarantee that this will lead to a happier life for most. In fact, limited evidence to date indicates quite the opposite.


24 posted on 05/28/2015 8:37:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: sphinx

And you hit the nail squarely on the head.


25 posted on 05/28/2015 8:37:51 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: sphinx

I may be slightly less pessimistic than you. I think the percentage of the population that could lead happy and useful lives if relieved of the need for productive labor is considerably higher.

Somewhere between 5% and 25%, perhaps.

But of course that still leaves 75% to 95% of the population screwed.

My other concern is that it seems to me this is the natural end point of the free market economy. The market commits suicide and puts itself out of business.

So is there any way to stop or slow this process other than massive government intervention, a cure perhaps worse than the disease?


26 posted on 05/28/2015 8:40:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

The best part about the destruction of humanity by relentless and cruel robotic overlords, is that there will no longer be, anywhere in existence, histrionic, panicked, foolish blog entries.


27 posted on 05/28/2015 8:42:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Chainmail

There will always be work to do, but fewer and fewer people will need be engaged in it. Increasing numbers of people will be put on the dole, with just enough to subsist. They will spend their days medicated (high), playing video games, using social media, or otherwise entertaining themselves (as that will be cheap). There will probably be lots of educational options too, but only a few will take advantage as doing nothing is the path of least resistance. So, only the top 20% of motivated people will work. Everyone else will fritter their lives away.

There you have it.


28 posted on 05/28/2015 8:42:40 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Resolute Conservative

In another Sci-Fi franchise (the Dune series of novels), the intelligent machines were overthrown. Who knows how this will unfold; I freely admit that I do not. If I could foresee the future that clearly, I would be in Las Vegas right now betting on sports.


29 posted on 05/28/2015 8:43:20 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Lazamataz

There’ll be an App for that. :-)


30 posted on 05/28/2015 8:44:14 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Sherman Logan

That is another question: who can afford to actually buy the products and services in this scenario? Or does the Government just pay companies to provide it in order to keep the idle masses from rioting?

Kurt Vonnegut wrote an interesting book back in the early 1950s that predicted this problem. It is called “Player Piano” and in many ways is surprisingly prescient.


31 posted on 05/28/2015 8:45:46 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Reeses

That is certainly one possibility.

But the Amish live as they do because they believe it’s God’s will.

Probably more difficult to live in a similar way just as a lifestyle statement. But I assume quite a few people would do so.

John Ringo has written a series of novels (Looking Glass) in which a beneficient Skynet type computer runs the world and gives every human what we’d considered godlike power and wealth.

Then the system breaks out into civil war and everybody is back to middle ages type tech.

The writing isn’t all that great, but he extrapolates some interesting ideas about how people would live in a world where there are very few restraints, material or cultural, on anybody. One of those ways is for people to ostentatiously pick a period of history and pretend to live in it. Problem is they always know it’s a pretense.


32 posted on 05/28/2015 8:46:57 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Army Air Corps

“Who knows how this will unfold”

By genetic engineering.


33 posted on 05/28/2015 8:54:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Are you bucking for the position of Kwisatz Haderach?

We have had ten people apply for that position since eight o’clock this morning.


34 posted on 05/28/2015 8:59:16 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Sherman Logan

Get the DMV involved in the process. That’ll grind things down to glacial speed.


35 posted on 05/28/2015 9:00:45 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Sherman Logan

Hey, the machines could always become unionized...


36 posted on 05/28/2015 9:03:11 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a region(the Middle East), as Steve Coll wrote this week, “descending into what looks to be a long, intimately violent war.”

Read some history. That is the historical reality for the region since at least 670 or so. Arabs slaughter each other and whomever else they chance upon. So do Moslems generally. It's in their blood. It's in their Book, the Mohammedan Operating Manual called, in transliterated Arabic, the Quran.

37 posted on 05/28/2015 9:16:46 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are jobs that people will want other people to do:
The Great Shift Toward Automation and the Future of Employment
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/The-Great-Shift-and-the-Future-of-Employment


38 posted on 05/28/2015 9:40:07 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind
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39 posted on 05/28/2015 10:02:58 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Sherman Logan
What we ‘re talking about here is an “economy of abundance.” Resources, or at least some or many of them, are NOT scarce. This has already happened with information. The interwebs have made acquisition of information that previously had a very high price essentially free.

By the standards of a 10th Century peasant, we are in an "economy of abundance".

If you accept a standard of living of a 10th Century peasant, living in a hut in the woods, then even working a minimum wage job would allow you to retire in just a few years of work, and have your investments supply you with enough wheat to survive.

What people who talk about "economy of abundance" fail to realize, is that human desires are limitless. Once somebody has a smartphone, everybody wants one. Likewise large-screen HDTV, game console, excellent food, etc.

40 posted on 05/28/2015 10:08:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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