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Astronomers - what the heck?
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Posted on 06/07/2015 2:49:48 AM PDT by djf

OK. Tonight I go on my porch and gaze at the night sky.

I have to move around a bit because there are trees everywhere.

But I see a BRIGHT object - almost directly west of me, and it's getting ready to set. It's right on the ecliptic.

The only two objects that ever get that bright are Jupiter and Venus, but it wasn't Jupiter, and at 11:30 at night, it sure ain't Venus!

Any ideas? Seriously. This has been buggin the crap out of me!


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1 posted on 06/07/2015 2:49:48 AM PDT by djf
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Where on the planet are you? That might help.


2 posted on 06/07/2015 2:52:13 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

It appears Jupiter and Venus can be ruled out.


3 posted on 06/07/2015 2:54:30 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Government is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V)
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To: rarestia

I suppose it would!

I’m near Seattle, just a bit south. So we are fairly north, that’s why I was thinking Venus - but damn, never saw Venus at 11:30 at night, no matter what time or day of year it was!

Besides Venus is supposed to be a morning star now...

I could dig out my Flammarions, but don’t think it will tell me anything!


4 posted on 06/07/2015 2:57:57 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: upchuck

Actually, it COULD be Jupiter. Jupiter sets a little after midnight, depending on where you are on Earth, and with atmospheric lensing (I think that’s the term), it could look bigger and brighter than normal.


5 posted on 06/07/2015 2:59:50 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: djf

You should install Google Sky Map on your phone. That would tell you.


6 posted on 06/07/2015 3:00:55 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: rarestia

Plus I looked at it with my 8X50 binoculars which, for Venus, show a disk. But all I made out was a point of light.

Weird. Whatever it was.
Maybe it’s Niarubu or whatever they call it!


7 posted on 06/07/2015 3:01:19 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf
From the Online Planetarium, it appears it was either Jupiter OR Venus, or possibly both.

If you plug in your coordinates, the time, and move the FOV to point west, you'll see that both of them were in the sky just above the horizon.

8 posted on 06/07/2015 3:03:26 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Well there were two planets in the vicinity. The second planet IMHO was Jupiter. I’ve seen Jupiter at opposition and it’s pretty impressive.

But this one was much brighter than that.

So who knows? If anyone has a clue, please let me know!


9 posted on 06/07/2015 3:04:21 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

in boston venus sets around 11 pm tonight and Jupiter around midnight


10 posted on 06/07/2015 3:05:02 AM PDT by tanstaafl44 (GDTA)
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To: rarestia

Adjusting the star map to Seattle at 33:30 PM Pacific, I show both Venus and Jupiter about to set in the west.

Presently, Jupiter would be the brighter of the two! And sort of yellowy...


11 posted on 06/07/2015 3:07:06 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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Make that 33:30 PM...

:p


12 posted on 06/07/2015 3:07:57 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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Dangit, 11:30!!!


13 posted on 06/07/2015 3:08:12 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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14 posted on 06/07/2015 3:11:47 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Brian Moore was an exemplary cop. Let his conduct be the example for Baltimore police to follow.)
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To: djf

Venus.

From Boston’s western suburbs Venus set at:

06 Jun 2015 23:33 EDT

Venus at greatest elongation east for the year at

Sat, 06 Jun 2015 at 19:48 EDT

https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20150606_12_100


15 posted on 06/07/2015 3:14:39 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Wow.

It was Venus. Being in Seattle, a bit north of Boston, I guess..

Just like I said before I never saw Venus at that time of night!


16 posted on 06/07/2015 3:17:41 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Oh, and BTW, Thanks!
Thanks to all who suggested it!


17 posted on 06/07/2015 3:19:03 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

Its a Deathstar since Star Wars is opening in December.


18 posted on 06/07/2015 3:22:57 AM PDT by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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ANOTHER Star Wars?

I gave up on it with the lizard that lisps.

I knew there was another Jurassic Park though.

And actually, I’ve been wondering, when exactly do we catch up with Star Trek and Blade Runner and all that stuff? Seems like we are way, way behind!


19 posted on 06/07/2015 3:28:12 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

Don’t miss this on June 30:

https://in-the-sky.org/news.php?id=20150701_16_100

Also, a couple of great sites:

Rise/Set/Transit Times for Major Solar System Bodies and Bright Stars

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/mrst.php

JPL solar system dynamics page (takes a while to get used to):

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi#top


20 posted on 06/07/2015 3:29:11 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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